Re: [Zope3-Users] at sea with basic setup
On Friday 04 November 2005 22:32, Ross Boylan wrote: I'd like to create some users, set authentication methods, and so on. After a lot of fooling around with the GUI and looking at various docs, I conclude I have no idea what's going on. Tim suggested reading the books and he is right. I'll note that the online version is outdated and has some issues that were resolved in the paper copy of my book. To complicate matters, there were some issue with my installation on Debian (using the package in testing) so that some of the products aren't available. I wonder if any of them are key to getting things going. SVN trunk. :-) Do I need to create something like a Zope 2 user folder? Yes, but it is called an authentication utility. Are all users defined in the principals file on disk? No. I tried installing a Site Manager object. The Site Management screen shows a lot of entries (e.g., Authenticator Plugin) that say there are no entries available yet. I installed some objects that seemed related, gave them names, and tried to hook them up with this screen. The only thing that seems to have worked is the unique id tool. As Tim also pointed out, read the zope.app.authentication *.txt files. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] at sea with basic setup
On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 19:32 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: I'd like to create some users, set authentication methods, and so on. After a lot of fooling around with the GUI and looking at various docs, I conclude I have no idea what's going on. ... I'd appreciate some pointers. Best tip is to read this: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/FrontPage/Zope3Book Then go out and buy a hard copy. Cheers, -- Tim Cook, Consultant CHASE Health Informatics, Inc. GnuPG Key is available at http://www.chasehealthinformatics.com/Members/twcook signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] at sea with basic setup
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 09:25:45AM -0800, Tim Cook wrote: On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 19:32 -0800, Ross Boylan wrote: I'd like to create some users, set authentication methods, and so on. After a lot of fooling around with the GUI and looking at various docs, I conclude I have no idea what's going on. ... I'd appreciate some pointers. Best tip is to read this: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/FrontPage/Zope3Book I looked at it, but the info on setup is limited. It tells how to install zope, but not really how to setup the instance, especially through the interface. E.g., p. 92 says it assumes you have created principal.zcml, but I don't really see anything about what should go in it. Further, the security framework appears to have been overhauled since the book was written (probably not in a way that affects what's in the book). I've found statements about the different components of the security framework, a reference to a default security policy, and info about how to code security. There's even info on how to write new types of authenticators. What I haven't found is info on the format of the principals file (though what's there provides lots of clues), how or if different credentials and authentication methods can be set via the ZMI, whether I need to create a site management folder, what to do with the options on the site management tab, whether I need to create user folders... Somewhere, maybe the Zope3 Dev Handbook, I saw a statement that user names needed a period. I'm not sure if that's true, since it's not mentioned elsewhere and my admin user doesn't have a period in the name and I can login as admin. Basically, I'm looking for a site administrator's guide or equivalent information. Then go out and buy a hard copy. Cheers, ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
Re: [Zope3-Users] at sea with basic setup
Ross Boylan wrote: I'd like to create some users, set authentication methods, and so on. After a lot of fooling around with the GUI and looking at various docs, I conclude I have no idea what's going on. To complicate matters, there were some issue with my installation on Debian (using the package in testing) so that some of the products aren't available. I wonder if any of them are key to getting things going. Do I need to create something like a Zope 2 user folder? Are all users defined in the principals file on disk? I tried installing a Site Manager object. The Site Management screen shows a lot of entries (e.g., Authenticator Plugin) that say there are no entries available yet. I installed some objects that seemed related, gave them names, and tried to hook them up with this screen. The only thing that seems to have worked is the unique id tool. Hi Ross, There's a related posting at.. http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-users/2005-October/001321.html The principal folder plugin provides something equivalent to a zope2 user folder in that you can manage principals from the zmi. ___ Zope3-users mailing list Zope3-users@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users
