Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.41/04.00] Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

2006-01-09 Thread Garito
Jonathan escribió: To pour fuel on the flames... +1 DTML -1 ZPT Why... 1) For 'quick and dirty' demos and rapid application prototyping DTML does the trick (yes, even including ZClasses), it is fast, easy, reasonably robust and it works! 2) For 'heavy lifting' (ie. intense

Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

2006-01-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 9 Jan 2006, at 13:29, Garito wrote: 13 KB deleted Please clean up the subject line to remove your spam filter's markings before you reply. And don't quote a whole long discussion including countless message footers only to add one line to the bottom. Thanks! jens

[Zope] 2.9.0 install

2006-01-09 Thread Joachim Schmitz
hi, I just downloaded Zope-2.9.0.tgz and in the README.txt it says: Installation information can be found in ''doc/INSTALL.txt'' this apparently must read ''Zope/doc/INSTALL.txt'' -- Mit freundlichen GrüßenJoachim Schmitz

Re: [Zope] 2.9.0 install

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
already fixed --On 9. Januar 2006 15:22:49 +0100 Joachim Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I just downloaded Zope-2.9.0.tgz and in the README.txt it says: Installation information can be found in ''doc/INSTALL.txt'' this apparently must read ''Zope/doc/INSTALL.txt'' -- Mit freundlichen

[Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Fernando Lujan
We use a Psycopg connection, and Z SQL Objects... We don't have any programs written in python that use zope interfaces and so on. We have a entire site written in DTML in Zope 2.x. Now, after some discuss here We want to migrate it to Zope3.x. and start to develop using the zope 3 facilities and

Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/9/06, Fernando Lujan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use a Psycopg connection, and Z SQL Objects... We don't have any programs written in python that use zope interfaces and so on. We have a entire site written in DTML in Zope 2.x. Now, after some discuss here We want to migrate it to

Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
Oh, I forgot: http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/lennart_regebro/2005_10_04_zope2-vs-zope3-faq ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 12:41:46 -0200 Fernando Lujan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already install Zope 3.1.0 and try to copy the Data.fs. From where to where? But it produces a lot of erros. How can I handle this? Which errors? -aj pgp3kkoNEODbX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:41:46PM -0200, Fernando Lujan wrote: We use a Psycopg connection, and Z SQL Objects... We don't have any programs written in python that use zope interfaces and so on. We have a entire site written in DTML in Zope 2.x. Now, after some discuss here We want to

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Robert Conner
Tim, Thanks for compiling that and setting up the windows installer. However, I don't believe it works. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I wanted to try installing this on a second computer before I wrote back. On both of them it starts the cmd window and displays the command called

[Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
I am involved in maintaining a remote Zope site that is behind a firewall where I have no remote access. I have a (parallel) site that I use to test changes and upgrades that is accessible to me. I am a looking for a straightforward way to package tested changes, send and have changes applied at

Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:15:41AM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote: I am involved in maintaining a remote Zope site that is behind a firewall where I have no remote access. I have a (parallel) site that I use to test changes and upgrades that is accessible to me. I am a looking for a

Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Martijn Pieters
We use a separete lib directory containing versioned Zope Product directories. That's versioned as in the directory name reflects the version. These get symlinked into the actual Products directory. For example: lib/Foo-1.10.1 lib/Bar-2.2.3 lib/Bar-2.2.4 and in the Products directory a

Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
On 1/9/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:15:41AM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote: I am involved in maintaining a remote Zope site that is behind a firewall where I have no remote access. I have a (parallel) site that I use to test changes and upgrades that

Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
On 1/9/06, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use a separete lib directory containing versioned Zope Product directories. That's versioned as in the directory name reflects the version. These get symlinked into the actual Products directory. For example: lib/Foo-1.10.1

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Robert Conner] Thanks for compiling that and setting up the windows installer. However, I don't believe it works. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I wanted to try installing this on a second computer before I wrote back. On both of them it What is it? Please spell out exactly

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Robert Conner
Well color me purple, it does work. I was just so used to seeing the Zope Ready to handle Requests message that when it never appeared I just assumed it was not working at all. I've broken Zope on my computer 100 times and always when its broken it does not display Zope Ready to handle Requests.

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Robert Conner] Well color me purple, it does work. Good! How could anything on Windows fail to work ;-)? I was just so used to seeing the Zope Ready to handle Requests message that when it never appeared I just assumed it was not working at all. I've broken Zope on my computer 100 times

Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:39:01AM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote: On 1/9/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:15:41AM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote: I am involved in maintaining a remote Zope site that is behind a firewall where I have no remote access. I

Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:24:57PM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote: I considered Zsyncher a while ago -- the problem there though is that there are many things in the two sites that should not be synched -- it seemed more of a synch everything kind of tool. Maybe I should look at it again. That

Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
On 1/9/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:24:57PM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote: I considered Zsyncher a while ago -- the problem there though is that there are many things in the two sites that should not be synched -- it seemed more of a synch everything

Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Fernando Lujan
2006/1/9, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I already install Zope 3.1.0 and try to copy the Data.fs. From where to where? From /home/zope/zope2.0/var/Data.fs to /home/zope/zope3.0/var/ But it produces a lot of erros. How can I handle this? Which errors? Hi Andreas, Thanks for the

Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Fernando Lujan
2006/1/9, Fernando Lujan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2006/1/9, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Which errors? Hi Andreas, Thanks for the reply. :) This behavior is intriguer since we only use DTML with logic and stuff... Nothing special as our own products etc... We sure have some products, but it

Re: [Zope] Strange ZEO related Tracebacks.

2006-01-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
robert rottermann wrote at 2006-1-9 05:45 +0100: Some customer of ours created got after doing some edition in plone the following trace backs which I have no clue what could be the reason. Only a restart of Zeo/Zope did fix it. We are using Zope 2.8.5 on linux What could be the reason for

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
FWIW, I don't know why Zope doesn't display anything useful in the console anymore, and I don't even know whether that's unique to Windows. Standard output is not a debug/error output. runzope both in Windows or Linux gives what you need. -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open

Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment

2006-01-09 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Sunday 8/1/2006 11:47, Daniel Gross wrote: Thank you for your reply. Actually, i first installed and configured plone/zope on a local server at home. Due to problems with dynamic ip mapping i decided to move it to a hosted environment. It appears however that unfortunately i can't do it,

[Zope] Help me!

2006-01-09 Thread Bruno Grampa
Hello, i'm building a site to sell images (this is the concept, the reality is different...). All the images are in a directory mapped through LocalFS product. For every image i have a record in a SQL table with all the basic informations: author, name of the file, cost. What i haven't

Re: [Zope] Help me!

2006-01-09 Thread David H
Bruno Grampa wrote: Hello, i'm building a site to sell images (this is the concept, the reality is different...). All the images are in a directory mapped through LocalFS product. For every image i have a record in a SQL table with all the basic informations: author, name of the file, cost.

Re: [Zope] Help me!

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 16:04:28 -0800 David H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you can better explain your question. ...especially with such a sense-free subject as Help me. -aj pgpWZTTahPYXo.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist -

[Zope] CPU architecture and Zope

2006-01-09 Thread David H
Hi list, Im just wondering what the wisdom is about Zope performance and various CPU types. I'm running Zope on Linux (Ubuntu). I notice that Dell is selling a dual-core Pentium unit. But I have no idea if something like dual core is advantegous to Zope, python execution or one's

Re: [Zope] CPU architecture and Zope

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 21:38:15 -0800 David H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Im just wondering what the wisdom is about Zope performance and various CPU types. I'm running Zope on Linux (Ubuntu). I notice that Dell is selling a dual-core Pentium unit. But I have no idea if something like

[Zope] [ANN] TextIndexNG 3.1.4 released

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
I am pleased to announce the release of TextIndexNG V 3.1.4. TextIndexNG V 3 is a complete new implementation based on Zope 3 technologies and can be used both in Zope 2.8 or in Zope 3. What's new? - multi-field indexing and query support - multi-lingual support - configurable converters

Re: [Zope-dev] Twice-annual releases and bugfixes?

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
Since this particular bug should be circumventable (new word?) by using Five 1.3.1, it's not serious enough to warrant a release by itself, IMO. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts

[Zope-dev] Zope tests: 7 OK, 1 Failed

2006-01-09 Thread Zope tests summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sun Jan 8 12:01:01 2006 UTC to Mon Jan 9 12:01:01 2006 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Unit Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (errors=2) : Zope-2_8-branch Python-2.3.5 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Sun

[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-01-09 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 2687 Blamelist: Zen,andreasjung,jim,oestermeier,yuppie BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot

Re: [Zope-dev] Twice-annual releases and bugfixes?

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Jeff Kowalczyk] What does the twice-annual release policy say about bugs and/or packaging errors that are identified and fixed within a very short time of the official release announcement? I think the answer you're looking for is that the policy says nothing about that. Every-6-months

[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
Andreas Jung wrote: the zLOG module will be offically deprecated in Zope 2.10 (removed in Zope 2.12). New code _must_ use the 'logging' module of Python. And please help to replace all outstanding code that uses the zLOG module on the _trunk_ (which is a fun job :-|). If that is the case

[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 16:35:31 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that is the case then I intend to: 1. move the definitions of zope's specific levels (trace and blather) into a more prominent place (ZODB also defines these levels, but it has to be an independent package),

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Fred Drake
On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but rather use the logging package levels. So in the end, there's no need

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41225: Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext. Just to make sure: we didn't lose the ReST allowed arbitrary file includes bugfix by doing this? Florent -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris,

[Zope-dev] RE: [ZODB-Dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Andreas Jung] ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nevertheless, grep'ing the ZODB source for TRACE and BLATHER will find them. TRACE is used only in modules under ZEO/zrpc/, and gives extremely verbose output about

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 10:55:21 -0500 Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:00:13 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41225: Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext. Just to make sure: we didn't lose the ReST allowed arbitrary

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 9 Jan 2006, at 16:55, Fred Drake wrote: On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package that actually uses these levels. Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but rather use the logging

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Fred Drake] Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but rather use the logging package levels. So in the end, there's no need for Zope to be defining levels at all, only conventions for how the levels are used. The logging package supports defining as many

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Fred Drake
On 1/9/06, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG have them defined. I want to use them.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. Sufficently enough for me. BLATHER TRACE can be merged to DEBUG and PROBLEM to either WARN|ERROR. This should be even enough for Zope.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:03, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 9. Januar 2006 17:00:13 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Log message for revision 41225: Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext. Just to make sure:

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:25, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. Sufficently enough for me. Sufficient for me is not a good reason sorry. If you don't want

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:20, Fred Drake wrote: On 1/9/06, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:40:26 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:25, Andreas Jung wrote: --On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine grained. Sufficently

Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-1-8 22:14 +0100: ... If you deprecate zLOG could you please instruct the python logger to output Zope style tracebacks? Zope style tracebacks are much more informative than the stupid Python ones. As this is probably difficult without Monkey patching, I

Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 9. Januar 2006 20:06:09 +0100 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll have to check that. Support in terms of patches are welcome :-) The Zope specific interface for logging purposes is already there: You just want to deprecate and remove it. _We_ want to _cleanup_ things. The

Re: [Zope-DB] User Authentication

2006-01-09 Thread Charlie Clark
On 2006-01-07 at 03:21:06 [+0100], Laurentiu Traineanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I change on the Security tab of the index_html method, the View permission from Acquire to Authenticated I do receive the Login Required page from domains/mydomain/acl_users and the Contents tab, DTML