Re: [Zope] [Fwd: Zope fails on large task?]

2006-01-19 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Jim Fulton ha escrit: It works for a few people. If I try too many people it fails with an Error reading from remote server message from the Apache. I cannot find any hints in the apache or zope logs. I have tried to monitor the server to see if any resources are running out, but

Re: [Zope] Newbee interfaces and implementations

2006-01-19 Thread Roman Klesel
bruno modulix schrieb: So you recommend that I should just skip them as long as I'm on Zope2? Short answer : yes. Unless you plan to switch to Zope3 really soon, but then, I'd recommand that you skip Zope 2.x !-) No, I'll be with Zope2 for a while. I'm running an Plone site too and dont't

[Zope] Zope fails on large task?

2006-01-19 Thread David Whiteley
I have a quite complicated data collection and reporting system based on zope2.7 and postgresql. All the postgresql stuff is handled by external scripts. I have used page templates throughout. It is running on a Debian Sarge based system, and uses Apache as a front end. This is my first

Re: [Zope] Zope fails on large task?

2006-01-19 Thread Peter Bengtsson
Can you check your memory consumption on the server? It could be that your application eats up so much memory that your zope can't handle it and thus times out. If this is the case you'll need to rewrite your app to NOT create a too big data structure of dictionaries. On 1/19/06, David Whiteley

Re: [Zope] Zope fails on large task?

2006-01-19 Thread Dave Whiteley
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 12:12 +, Peter Bengtsson wrote: Can you check your memory consumption on the server? It could be that your application eats up so much memory that your zope can't handle it and thus times out. If this is the case you'll need to rewrite your app to NOT create a too

[Zope] Software to Administer a Zope Project?

2006-01-19 Thread Pablo Ziliani
Hi everybody, I want to keep track of a project I am developing in Zope, so basically I need some advise on the software I might prefer to adopt. I tried trac, but I find it a bit complicated to have to admin everything through the shell and also, unless there's an easy way to integrate zodb

Re: [Zope] [Fwd: Zope fails on large task?]

2006-01-19 Thread David Whiteley
Thanks, This might be the fix. I too had tried ProxyTimeout without success. It is now behaving a lot better. Dave On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 09:25 +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Jim Fulton ha escrit: It works for a few people. If I try too many people it fails with an Error

Re: [Zope] Newbee interfaces and implementations

2006-01-19 Thread J Cameron Cooper
Roman Klesel wrote: bruno modulix schrieb: So you recommend that I should just skip them as long as I'm on Zope2? Short answer : yes. Unless you plan to switch to Zope3 really soon, but then, I'd recommand that you skip Zope 2.x !-) No, I'll be with Zope2 for a while. I'm running an

Re: [Zope] zeopack: No handlers could be found for logger ZEO.zrpc

2006-01-19 Thread Dieter Maurer
Cameron Beattie wrote at 2006-1-19 17:29 +1300: When I run the following: python /usr/lib/zope/bin/zeopack.py -d 20 -h localhost -p 8100 I get an error: No handlers could be found for logger ZEO.zrpc It's a warning only. You can ignore it. ... In the case of zeopack, the database is not packed

[Zope] NewBee, Do I have to code to do this?

2006-01-19 Thread John Huttley
Hi, I'm recoding an existing php e-commerce app in zope as my first project I'm at the point where I've installed the exUserFolder product to authenticate against an external SQL database. However, I need to hold some additional information in the user object. It seems to me that I have to

Re: [Zope] NewBee, Do I have to code to do this?

2006-01-19 Thread John Huttley
Sorry should have added its zope 2.8 under windows --john John Huttley wrote: Hi, I'm recoding an existing php e-commerce app in zope as my first project I'm at the point where I've installed the exUserFolder product to authenticate against an external SQL database. However, I need to

[Zope] Class instances changing address?

2006-01-19 Thread Jeff Gentry
Hello ... I'm running Zope 2.7.3 w/ python 2.4.1. I'm in the process of developing a FS based product as a primary class w/ many sub-classes. I've been experiencing a problem which I thought I had completely nixed but apparently only partly so and now am out of ideas as to what might be the

Re: [Zope] zeopack: No handlers could be found for logger ZEO.zrpc

2006-01-19 Thread Tim Peters
[Cameron Beattie] When I run the following: python /usr/lib/zope/bin/zeopack.py -d 20 -h localhost -p 8100 I get an error: No handlers could be found for logger ZEO.zrpc As Dieter said, that's not an error in and of itself, it's just Python's logging module whining at you. ZEO.zrpc is

Re: [Zope] Zope fails on large task?

2006-01-19 Thread David
Dave Whiteley wrote: On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 12:12 +, Peter Bengtsson wrote: Can you check your memory consumption on the server? It could be that your application eats up so much memory that your zope can't handle it and thus times out. If this is the case you'll need to

Re: [Zope] NewBee, Do I have to code to do this?

2006-01-19 Thread Bakhtiar A Hamid
On 1/20/06, John Huttley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry should have added its zope 2.8 under windows--johnJohn Huttley wrote: Hi, I'm recoding an existing php e-commerce app in zope as my first project I'm at the point where I've installed the exUserFolder product to authenticate against an

Re: [Zope] NewBee, Do I have to code to do this?

2006-01-19 Thread David
Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote: On 1/20/06, John Huttley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry should have added its zope 2.8 under windows --john John Huttley wrote: Hi, I'm recoding an existing php e-commerce app in zope as my first project I'm at the point where I've installed the

Re: [Zope] NewBee, Do I have to code to do this?

2006-01-19 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ John Huttley ]-- | | Hi, I'm recoding an existing php e-commerce app in zope as my first | project | | I'm at the point where I've installed the exUserFolder product to | authenticate against an external SQL database. | | However, I need to hold some additional

Re: [Zope] zeopack: No handlers could be found for logger ZEO.zrpc

2006-01-19 Thread Cameron Beattie
Thanks for the help. Adding the following (as suggested) resolved the problem: import logging logging.basicConfig() Regards Cameron ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML

[Zope] SOLUTION -- Products have incorrect home attribute

2006-01-19 Thread George Lee
After migrating to a new server, several of my Zope products have an incorrect home attribute that specifies where they live on the filesystem. However, when I try to change these attributes using an external method, the attributes do not change. Any help? Peace, George Turns out it was

Re: [Zope] Zope MailTemplates

2006-01-19 Thread Chris Withers
Hi All, Sorry for the delay in replying, been away... Erik Myllymaki wrote: the complaint is not mine but is from the marketing department :) in Thunderbird (on Windows anyway) it adds a black mark in place of the newline :-0 Ah, I always wondered what that was! (I see them from the zope

[Zope-Annce] Silva 1.5 beta 1 released

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Silva 1.5 beta 1 released 19 january 2005 – Infrae has just released version 1.5 beta of the Silva content management system. This is a beta release for public testing. Please let us know about any problems! Silva 1.5 is the first Silva release that really starts using Zope 3 technology

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/ - Fetch the dependencies with curl

2006-01-19 Thread Sidnei da Silva
Log message for revision 41368: - Fetch the dependencies with curl Changed: U Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/common.mk U Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/python.mk U

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/zope.mk - Another dependency

2006-01-19 Thread Sidnei da Silva
Log message for revision 41369: - Another dependency Changed: U Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/zope.mk -=- Modified: Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/zope.mk ===

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/zope.mk - I must be blind

2006-01-19 Thread Sidnei da Silva
Log message for revision 41370: - I must be blind Changed: U Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/zope.mk -=- Modified: Zope/branches/tim-2.9-windows-installer/inst/WinBuilders/mk/zope.mk === ---

[Zope-Checkins] CVS: Packages/ZODB - component.xml:1.10.6.3.8.1 config.py:1.13.4.1.38.1

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Fulton
Update of /cvs-repository/Packages/ZODB In directory cvs.zope.org:/tmp/cvs-serv24275/ZODB Modified Files: Tag: jim-test-storage component.xml config.py Log Message: First cut at as-of option to open to a specific point in time. === Packages/ZODB/component.xml 1.10.6.3 =

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Benji York
Stephan Richter wrote: Let's say zope.testbrowser is an egg and I discover a bug in zope.textbrowser while doing some other Zope 3 development, I have to check out zope.testbrowser, fix the bug, check it in, download the new egg and hope it fixed my Zope 3 problem. I'm an egg neophyte, but I

[Zope-dev] Zope tests: 8 OK

2006-01-19 Thread Zope tests summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Wed Jan 18 12:01:01 2006 UTC to Thu Jan 19 12:01:01 2006 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2_6-branch Python-2.1.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Wed Jan 18 21:03:05 EST

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Fulton
Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 18 January 2006 19:09, Jim Fulton wrote: You know my position concerning the repository and the release; I'd prefer them to be kept as similar as possible to simplify the release process. I hope we can go in that direction. It also makes things more

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:27, Martijn Faassen wrote: How do you assemble releases 'from releases'? I'm not sure I understand that. You mean make a Zope 2 release using a Zope 3 release? I'll note that SchoolTool greatly benefits from the

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: ... How do you assemble releases 'from releases'? I'm not sure I understand that. You mean make a Zope 2 release using a Zope 3 release? No, I mean using eggs. Zope should be broken into separate projects with their own eggs. A Zope release might

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 18 January 2006 19:09, Jim Fulton wrote: You know my position concerning the repository and the release; I'd prefer them to be kept as similar as possible to simplify the release process. I hope we can go in that direction. It also makes things more

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 19 January 2006 07:00, Jim Fulton wrote: I have seen you take a similar approach to zope.testing and I found that painful just by watching the checkins. I don't understand what you mean.  Having a separate zope.testing project has been extremely useful.  For example, in our

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 19 January 2006 07:00, Jim Fulton wrote:   I feel like an old record, but please let's keep the development process as simple as possible. I rather make some concessions to the packaging and dependency system than spending more time developing. Perhaps our goals are

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 19 January 2006 07:46, Martijn Faassen wrote: Oh, this will make development so much more tedious. Let's say zope.testbrowser is an egg and I discover a bug in zope.textbrowser while doing some other Zope 3 development, I have to check out zope.testbrowser, fix the bug, check

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: [svn reflecting egg dependency structure] That would work for me. If it resolves the risk and is still pretty automated, SVN checkout or even calling make, then it is fine by me. The others have also pointed out the egg development mode. Right, I didn't know of that,

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: ... Sure, I support dependencies and separating out Zope into sub projects, I'm just listing an additional use case: the repository state should be similar to release state, to avoid confusion for developers as well as people who want to become developers. I.e. a

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: ... A risk here is that if I find a bug in package X, I can't easily track it into package Y and fix it there, as package Y is an egg. The current system doesn't have this problem. There are two issues here: 1. Debugging. Can debugging tools show you code in eggs? They

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: ... What if we can create in SVN the equivalent of what would be an egg + its dependencies for checkout, using externals? I know Jim said he doesn't want to use externals, but I'm thinking in that direction. You'd have one SVN directory for each egg, which then contains

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Jim Fulton
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 07:00, Jim Fulton wrote: I feel like an old record, but please let's keep the development process as simple as possible. I rather make some concessions to the packaging and dependency system than spending more time developing. Perhaps

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Tim Peters
... [Stephan Ricther] I have seen you take a similar approach to zope.testing and I found that painful just by watching the checkins. [Jim Fulton] I don't understand what you mean. Having a separate zope.testing project has been extremely useful. For example, in our comercial apps, we

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: ... What if we can create in SVN the equivalent of what would be an egg + its dependencies for checkout, using externals? I know Jim said he doesn't want to use externals, but I'm thinking in that direction. You'd have one SVN directory for each egg,

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Yes, but Zope 2 included *less* than Zope 3 in the most recent release, and I'd like *all* packages that are in a Zope 3 release to be available in a Zope 2 release. I.e. Five doesn't want packages that aren't in a Zope 3 release, but not less

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Another use case, probably mostly in the context of Five, it's nice to have an inclusive release of Zope 3 in Zope 2. The goal of reducing the amount of code included in Zope 2 sounds nice in theory, but it stops Five developers from exposing Zope 3

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Dunstan
On 1/20/06, Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all, zope.testing is a poster child for the value of package development outside of a Zope tree. I've been very happy using zope.testing with several non zope projects. Including how easy it is to follow and distribute that package as needed

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] December release post-mortem

2006-01-19 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: I think we should investigate eggs. Do I know they will work? No. I haven't done much with them yet. Do you know they won't? Obviously not. I suggest we reserve jusdgement until we have had an opportunity for some prototyping. Based on what I've seen so far, I'm very

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

2006-01-19 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: Ah, okay, and how would I indicate in my PythonScript return that I'm returning something different to what is specified in zpublisher_default_encoding? By setting the content-type header _with_ a 'charset' set. A cool :-) Where's the code that checks if this header is

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZPublisher] specifiying 'charset' for the content-type header

2006-01-19 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 19. Januar 2006 18:37:35 + Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Ah, okay, and how would I indicate in my PythonScript return that I'm returning something different to what is specified in zpublisher_default_encoding? By setting the content-type header

Re: [Zope-PAS] role management

2006-01-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 19 Jan 2006, at 22:55, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Currently adding roles through a RoleManager breaks ZODBRoleManager: it reads a list of all roles when it created and assumes they do not change after that. If you add a new role you can do that through a RoleManager directly, but

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-19 Thread bakhtiar a hamid
On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:40, Carlos de la Guardia wrote: Hi, I have some comments about the idea of a Zope newsletter. Though it would be nice to have one, a newsletter may be too formal an undertaking for a community site. There was a time when the zope.org site presented a feature

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
bakhtiar a hamid wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:40, Carlos de la Guardia wrote: Hi, I have some comments about the idea of a Zope newsletter. Though it would be nice to have one, a newsletter may be too formal an undertaking for a community site. There was a time when the zope.org

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Martijn Faassen wrote: bakhtiar a hamid wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:40, Carlos de la Guardia wrote: We could also compile automatically some news items, Releases and announcements and call them the newsletter. i would think planetzope.org fits this description nicely

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: bakhtiar a hamid wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:40, Carlos de la Guardia wrote: We could also compile automatically some news items, Releases and announcements and call them the newsletter. i would think planetzope.org fits

Re: [ZWeb] Python.org is redesigning

2006-01-19 Thread Andrew Sawyers
That looks excellent! Andrew On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 00:18 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Carlos de la Guardia wrote: Have you seen http://beta.python.org/ yet? I like the using Python for... and written in Python boxes at the right. The design is another thing, but let's not go

Re: [ZWeb] new zope.org: zope newsletter

2006-01-19 Thread Andrew Sawyers
I asked this in IRC, but don't think I got an answer: Should I work on setting up something on one of the current zope.org app servers or do we have another place where this work will be done. I started something awhile back when Sidnei and I got into a conversation about zope.org salvation and