[Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
Hi. I've been attempting to develop products with Zope 2.9, and am finding it increasingly difficult and slow to do so as Product refreshing no longer works. Google shows up a few results from mailing lists with somewhat negative responses (The gist I'm getting is that no-one 'in the know' wants

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. August 2006 21:47:37 +1000 James Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've been attempting to develop products with Zope 2.9, and am finding it increasingly difficult and slow to do so as Product refreshing no longer works. Google shows up a few results from mailing lists with

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:47:37PM +1000, James Davies wrote: Another major issue I've discovered is Zope hosting. We reguarly deploy custom sites on shared zope environments, and having to restart an entire server just to update one product severely breaks our uptime guarentee. If you use a

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
On 8/7/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Refreshing was always a hack and never something I would call a feature.It was always a hack for *development* purposes but not for production. Yes, but it's still very handy and many people have come to rely on it. You might blame Plone for

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
We have Zeo, but running a seperate instance of zope for each site is still too much (We probably host around 50 sites at the moment, and growing. The only economical way to do this is to put multiple sites in one zope instance).On 8/7/06, Reinoud van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:12:42PM +1000, James Davies wrote: We have Zeo, but running a seperate instance of zope for each site is still too much (We probably host around 50 sites at the moment, and growing. The only economical way to do this is to put multiple sites in one zope instance).

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. August 2006 22:08:04 +1000 James Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/7/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Refreshing was always a hack and never something I would call a feature. It was always a hack for *development* purposes but not for production. Yes, but it's

[Zope] Re: Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Duncan Booth
Andreas Jung wrote: James Davies wrote: Another major issue I've discovered is Zope hosting. We reguarly deploy custom sites on shared zope environments, and having to restart an entire server just to update one product severely breaks our uptime guarentee. Refresh only works in

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. August 2006 12:42:38 + Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: James Davies wrote: Another major issue I've discovered is Zope hosting. We reguarly deploy custom sites on shared zope environments, and having to restart an entire server just to update one

[Zope] ZEO Problem Clients Waiting

2006-08-07 Thread Gerhard Schmidt
HI, we have quite a Problem with out Zope/Zeo system. We run at the moment Zope cluster with 10 application servers and a zeo server with Filestorage. Our Data.fs is 3.5 Gig at the moment (after Pack). I runs most of the time without problem. But sometimes things screw up 2006-08-07T14:29:19

[Zope] Re: Zope 2.9 Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Peter Bengtsson
James Davies wrote: [snip] I'm hoping I can garner some support to get the zope developers to fix the problem. Failing that, ANY information pointing me in the right direction would be helpful, as I'm more than happy to fix it myself and submit a patch. If anyone else is finding this a

[Zope] Re: ZEO Problem Clients Waiting

2006-08-07 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gerhard Schmidt wrote: HI, we have quite a Problem with out Zope/Zeo system. We run at the moment Zope cluster with 10 application servers and a zeo server with Filestorage. Our Data.fs is 3.5 Gig at the moment (after Pack). I runs most of

[Zope] Renamed user account and OpenFlow

2006-08-07 Thread Tit-Liviu Leontin
Hello everyone, I'm currently taking over the administration of a running instance of Zope and OpenFlow. These have been used to create a workflow for a decision making process. The users are authenticated via LDAP. The problem is, one of the workflow users got married and the username has

Re: [Zope] Renamed user account and OpenFlow

2006-08-07 Thread Marco Bizzarri
This is mostly an OpenFlow question, so you would better post it to openflow mailing list. The simplest way would be creating a python script which: 1) search the old (inactive) workitem; 2) unassign them 3) reassign them Regards Marco On 8/7/06, Tit-Liviu Leontin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 8/7/06, James Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've been attempting to develop products with Zope 2.9, and am finding it increasingly difficult and slow to do so as Product refreshing no longer works. Google shows up a few results from mailing lists with somewhat negative responses (The

[Zope] FastCGI server crashing

2006-08-07 Thread David Chandek-Stark
I am experiencing seemingly random crashes of the Zope FastCgi server that are really annoying users. Any help most appreciated. Apache errors: FastCGI: comm with server /space/apache2/fcgi-bin/zope.cgi aborted: idle timeout (30 sec) FastCGI: incomplete headers (0 bytes) received from server

[Zope] Re: FastCGI server crashing

2006-08-07 Thread David Chandek-Stark
Looks like the problem was an inbound RSS feed from a server that was down. The FastCGI process was timing out before the RSS request from CMFSin timed out. David Chandek-Stark wrote: I am experiencing seemingly random crashes of the Zope FastCgi server that are really annoying users. Any

Re: [Zope] Re: FastCGI server crashing

2006-08-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7 Aug 2006, at 12:09, David Chandek-Stark wrote: Looks like the problem was an inbound RSS feed from a server that was down. The FastCGI process was timing out before the RSS request from CMFSin timed out. You're probably aware of the fact

[Zope] Re: FastCGI server crashing

2006-08-07 Thread David Chandek-Stark
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: You're probably aware of the fact that FastCGI is no longer a supported configuration. Is there any specific reason you're using it instead of RewriteRules for example? jens Actually, I wasn't aware. I'm using FastCGI b/c I am doing external authentication with an

Re: [Zope] Re: FastCGI server crashing

2006-08-07 Thread Jonathan
- Original Message - From: David Chandek-Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: [Zope] Re: FastCGI server crashing Jens Vagelpohl wrote: You're probably aware of the fact that FastCGI is no longer a supported configuration. Is

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-8-7 13:56 +0200: ... Refreshing was always a hack and never something I would call a feature. It was always a hack for *development* purposes but not for production. We are speaking about development, not about production. ... Refresh does not work Five... Do you

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope 2.9 Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
Peter Bengtsson wrote at 2006-8-7 15:14 +0100: ... Apparently the bug is somewhere deep in the ZODB code (thanks Dieter Maurer for pointing this out some time ago) and that's a domain I'm very very novice in debugging. You must have misinterpreted me: I can assure you that the ZODB is not

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 7. August 2006 20:30:11 +0200 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-8-7 13:56 +0200: ... Refreshing was always a hack and never something I would call a feature. It was always a hack for *development* purposes but not for production. We are speaking about

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
James Davies wrote at 2006-8-7 21:47 +1000: I've been attempting to develop products with Zope 2.9, and am finding it increasingly difficult and slow to do so as Product refreshing no longer works. What happens when you try to refresh a product? Does it happen only when the product uses Five? Or

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote at 2006-8-7 14:15 +0200: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:12:42PM +1000, James Davies wrote: We have Zeo, but running a seperate instance of zope for each site is still too much (We probably host around 50 sites at the moment, and growing. The only economical way to do this

Re: [Zope] ZEO Problem Clients Waiting

2006-08-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
Gerhard Schmidt wrote at 2006-8-7 15:54 +0200: ... 2006-08-07T14:29:19 INFO ZEO.StorageServer (97002/10.152.64.23:52518) Transaction +blocked waiting for storage. Clients waiting: 1. ... 2006-08-07T14:29:50 INFO ZEO.StorageServer (97002/10.152.64.17:54463) Blocked transaction restarted.

Re: [Zope] FastCGI server crashing

2006-08-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
David Chandek-Stark wrote at 2006-8-7 11:37 -0400: I am experiencing seemingly random crashes of the Zope FastCgi server that are really annoying users. Any help most appreciated. Apache errors: FastCGI: comm with server /space/apache2/fcgi-bin/zope.cgi aborted: idle timeout (30 sec) FastCGI:

[Zope] EMERGENCY!

2006-08-07 Thread beno
How do I undo the last change I made in Zope from the server itself? I send Zope into an infinite loop when I call Web sites! beno ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-8-7 20:43 +0200: ... Nevertheless, it may come sooner as some external developpers are a fan of Five and want to install a newer version. As we all expect Five to be the reason that refresh no longer works, this might force me to look into this problem earlier than

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread John Schinnerer
Aloha, Refresh always works, at least the explicit refresh (do not know about the automatic one which I have never used). I'm on 2.7 and yes, the explicit and *very* useful refresh tab in the ZMI seems to work fine in production mode also. I do not remember fondly the old days (2.4, 2.5)

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Chris McDonough
The real effort towards making a better refresh should likely be spent at the level of the Python interpreter. The dynamic nature of Python is the thing that allows for a refresh in the first place, but the implementation of Python object references limits its usefulness. The

Re: [Zope] Re: FastCGI server crashing

2006-08-07 Thread Jonathan
- Original Message - From: David Chandek-Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: FastCGI server crashing I haven't done this myself, but according to the apache docs

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread John Schinnerer
Since I never knew the refresh tab was a fragile hack, it always worked fine for me... :-) Are you saying that a really good solution for this is in the hands of python developers, not zope developers? In that case it seems far off, if ever, since zope is only one of many many applications

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread Chris McDonough
On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:57 PM, John Schinnerer wrote: Since I never knew the refresh tab was a fragile hack, it always worked fine for me... :-) Bliss! I'm happy for you! FWIW, you've just had it nail you now, whereas I'd had it nail me four years ago, and swore it off then. ;-) Are you

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
This isn't really a solution. Clients will still lose session data, which is unacceptable. -James. On Monday 07 August 2006 22:15, Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:12:42PM +1000, James Davies wrote: We have Zeo, but running a seperate instance of zope for each site is

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 01:34, you wrote: You mean you can't allow the server even to be down for the less than a minute it takes to restart it? I would honestly be very interested in knowing what kind of systems you run that has that sort of requirements. Are you serious? People pay large

[Zope] Question of ZPL etiquette

2006-08-07 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I am trying to get a better sense of how others are dealing with ZPL headers in code from original authors once changes are made. For example if a package is ZPL copyright somebody, I typically see a header at the top of most files as well as the LICENSE.txt in the package itself. When

Re: [Zope] Question of ZPL etiquette

2006-08-07 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 8. August 2006 00:53:09 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I am trying to get a better sense of how others are dealing with ZPL headers in code from original authors once changes are made. For example if a package is ZPL copyright somebody, I typically see a header at the

[Zope-PAS] Re: new beta

2006-08-07 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Janko Hauser wrote: Would it be possible to have a short announcment before a new beta of PAS is done? I know, it is my fault to not have generated a ticket for the domain_auth bug, but a little heads up would perhaps help to get more input. I