(Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 04:11:00PM -0400) Jim Fulton wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
I don't think we need AB. Maybe just Zope and Zope Framework.
As long as both use the word Zope, the confusion will continue.
Why don't the Zope 3 people find a different name now, something that
relates but is not the
My preferred Zope-future would be:
1. The Zope Framework dependency cleanup project continues. When
cleanup is deemed reasonably finished, we rename the framework Zope 4.
2. Zope 3 The Application server moves over to zope.pipeline or
similar, and gets a new name, and becomes one of the
2009/4/2 Tim Nash thedag...@gmail.com:
If you really think zope 3 (or 4) can stand on it's own, just rename
zope 2 to 'plone base'. That will cut down on the confusion.
There are many more that uses Zope 2 besides Plone. But it is true,
and also likely A Good Thing that Zope 2 doesn't get many
Andrew Milton wrote:
| Plenty of people use it without plone. You might want to crawl out of
| the vacuum you live in.
|
| Yes, and I'm one of them, but I don't think it's fair to try and tempt
| new users into it...
|
| I'm happy to be proven wrong by you writing lots of decent docs,
Sascha Welter wrote:
(Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 04:11:00PM -0400) Jim Fulton wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
I don't think we need AB. Maybe just Zope and Zope Framework.
As long as both use the word Zope, the confusion will continue.
Well, not quite, I think as long as any *one* of the bits uses the
Andrew Milton wrote:
I think making a distinction between the app servers and the
framework/architecture is a good idea, it then just becomes a matter of
educating our current or potential users.
Indeed, I hope you'd agree that differentiating them both by nothing
more than version number is
Lennart Regebro wrote:
1. The Zope Framework dependency cleanup project continues. When
cleanup is deemed reasonably finished, we rename the framework Zope 4.
Oh, so Zope 4 is a run on from Zope 2?
How do I upgrade from Zope 2 to Zope 3?
How about from 3.5 to 4?
No, Martijn as Zope Framework
Carsten Senger wrote:
Times are fast moving. Interesting to see such interests in something
ancient to start an excavation ;-)
Znolk 0.1.9 is hidden on zope.org.
http://www.zope.org/Members/zwork/Znolk_SQL_Wizard/default
I think 0.2 was developed at bluedynamics and never released.
Tim Nash wrote:
*This* community is dead, get over it and move on.
Yeah, you are right.
If you really think zope 3 (or 4) can stand on it's own,
zope 3 app server has a small community of users who've indicated
they're not wedded to that brand continuing.
the zope framework is already
2009/4/3 Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk:
Lennart Regebro wrote:
1. The Zope Framework dependency cleanup project continues. When
cleanup is deemed reasonably finished, we rename the framework Zope 4.
Oh, so Zope 4 is a run on from Zope 2?
Eh... no.
How do I upgrade from Zope 2 to
+---[ Chris Withers ]--
| Andrew Milton wrote:
| | Plenty of people use it without plone. You might want to crawl out of
| | the vacuum you live in.
| |
| | Yes, and I'm one of them, but I don't think it's fair to try and tempt
| | new users into it...
| |
| | I'm happy
Hi. FYI, I have a client using Zope 2 in production. I am migrating
him from Zope 2.7 on SUSE 10.1 to Zope 2.10 on CentOS 5.2.
He's not using plone. He has a custom Web app. He expects to keep
using Zope 2, and to continue development of our Web application.
Best,
Aleksey Tsalolikhin
Unix
Dear all,
A reminder of your participation in the RFC of Project MuSMo.
Please find detail information in regards to the project at
http://blog.musmo.com/2009/03/19/request-for-collaboration-project-musmo/
including an attachment of the RFC.
Thank you for taking your time and effort in
On Fri, April 3, 2009 21:18, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote:
Hi. FYI, I have a client using Zope 2 in production. I am migrating
him from Zope 2.7 on SUSE 10.1 to Zope 2.10 on CentOS 5.2.
He's not using plone. He has a custom Web app. He expects to keep
using Zope 2, and to continue
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 21:17 +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Christian Theune wrote at 2009-4-2 13:30 +0200:
if tests spawn non-daemon threads, then the test runner can get stuck.
The easiest way that I see is to always --exit-with-status and to make
--exist-with-status also call sys.exit() when
Hi,
We're using UUIDs a lot, and it's pretty painful that they are security
proxied. They're in the standard library from python 2.5
(http://docs.python.org/library/uuid.html) and are immutable according
to the documentation.
I think they meet all the all the requirements to be rocks. So unless
2009/4/3 Roger Ineichen d...@projekt01.ch:
Can you run the group.txt tests in z3c.form and confirm
the issue. A div tag get skipped after some nested repeat
tags. (line 898, in group.txt)
Running with the latest ``chameleon.core``, ``chameleon.zpt`` and
``z3c.pt``, I only get one test failure:
Hi,
(this message probably just has a reminder function)
in one of my apps I had to upgrade many packages to a lot of new
versions suddenly when updating zope.publisher. That was caused because
zope.publisher started depending on a new (previously non-existing)
package within a bugfix release
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Thu Apr 2 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Fri Apr 3 12:00:00 2009 UTC.
There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests.
Test failures
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Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.1 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Thu Apr 2 20:53:08 EDT
On Apr 2, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
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Gary Poster wrote:
I'd like to report back on the progress that Bzr/Launchpad has made
addressing concerns we heard since I last brought up Canonical's
offer
to host the code and contribute
On Apr 2, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
- the web front end is ancient and not as good as other options
(Trac,
WebSVN)
+1 for having trac as a subversion browser.
In fact, see http://zope3.pov.lt/trac
The svn repository mirror used by that trac instance is updated with
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 14:41, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
Should we all just use that?
It's running trac 0.10. I'd love to see trac 0.11, which has
additional features that I miss every time I use a 0.10 trac instance,
such as the annotate view.
Also, I'd include the subversion location
2009/4/2 Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as:
looks like a mistaken assignment of a tuple to a name, while
setup(
many lines
foo=bar,
many more lines
)
looks like a function call.
Agreed; the common use of spaces around the equal signs in setup.py is
a holdover from Greg Ward's
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:04:47PM +0200, Martijn Pieters wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 14:41, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
Should we all just use that?
(that being http://zope3.pov.lt/trac)
Sure, I don't mind. It sits behind an ADSL line with puny uplink (512
Kbit/s), but I don't think
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On 03.04.2009 17:22 Uhr, Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 03:04:47PM +0200, Martijn Pieters wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 14:41, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
Should we all just use that?
(that being http://zope3.pov.lt/trac)
Christian Theune wrote:
See:
http://subversion.tigris.org/svn_1.6_releasenotes.html#auth-related-improvements
However, this only *allows* clients to manage their password reasonably,
it doesn't force them to.
Well, you can't force someone to keep their private key private either...
At
Hello,
I was wondering if the Zope collective had given any consideration to
allowing constants to be defined in interfaces. To be clear, these are
constant values that make up the protocol defined by the interface. Just to
have a concrete example, let's say we're modeling an http response:
Tres Seaver wrote:
- the web front end is ancient and not as good as other options (Trac,
WebSVN)
Fixing the web front-end should be a matter for the zope-web list.
The zope-web list is pretty dead...
So I thought I'd ask what the plans are now that the foundation owns all
the Zope IP
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
On Apr 2, 2009, at 22:53 , Tres Seaver wrote:
+1 to making svn-over-http read-only checkouts work.
This is now working. The repository can be reached under...
http://svn.zope.org/repos/main/
Jens, you're my hero :-)
Remind me that I owe you beer next time I see
Marius Gedminas wrote:
The story may be different for Windows users (as usual).
+0.5 for alternatively accepting authenticated https access (I'm not the
admin, so it doesn't cost me, but I'm also not going to use it)
BTW I've yet to see a firewall that blocks SSH. Am I lucky?
Yup.
In
Andreas Jung wrote:
Sure, I don't mind. It sits behind an ADSL line with puny uplink (512
Kbit/s), but I don't think that will be a problem.
Nothing against your generous offer but I think that trac belongs as
a central service on the central repository server.
+1, although if we were to
Gary Poster wrote:
Within the constraints above, then, in line with your original proposal,
I think we'd be fine with Zope Framework, and Zope 2. We certainly
don't need Zope-3-the-tarball, if that's what you meant.
Zope Framework (and maybe even ZF4) seems to have general agreement.
Tres Seaver wrote:
Personally, I evaluate such eggs in a sandbox, and then add them to the
project-specific index once I'm sure that they work with the other
software in the index: I don't use PyPI at all when building out
production sites.
That seems overly heavyweight for the average new
On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Chris Rossi wrote:
Hello,
Hi Chris.
I was wondering if the Zope collective had given any consideration
to allowing constants to be defined in interfaces. To be clear,
these are constant values that make up the protocol defined by the
interface.
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Chris Withers wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
Personally, I evaluate such eggs in a sandbox, and then add them to the
project-specific index once I'm sure that they work with the other
software in the index: I don't use PyPI at all when building out
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Chris Withers wrote:
Andreas Jung wrote:
*This* part needs some fixing, largely because Jim's role their is an
artifact of ZC's role, now lapsed, as custodians. At a minimum, there
should be a group (I suggest the zope-web regulars) who can take
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On 03.04.2009 21:02 Uhr, Tres Seaver wrote:
Chris Withers wrote:
Andreas Jung wrote:
*This* part needs some fixing, largely because Jim's role their is an
artifact of ZC's role, now lapsed, as custodians. At a minimum, there
should be a group (I
Previously Marius Gedminas wrote:
BTW I've yet to see a firewall that blocks SSH. Am I lucky?
Yes. Blocking ssh is very common in larger companies in me experience.
Wichert.
--
Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things.
http://www.wiggy.net/ It is
Previously Chris Rossi wrote:
I was wondering if the Zope collective had given any consideration to
allowing constants to be defined in interfaces. To be clear, these are
constant values that make up the protocol defined by the interface. Just to
have a concrete example, let's say we're
On Apr 3, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
This looks like a poor man's enum. I'ld prefer to have a proper enum
like thing.
Seems a little different to me.
For what it is worth, though, if you do want an enum in zope.schema,
Canonical has lazr.enum:
Hey All,
Is it supposed to be down?
Chris
PS: I'm not longer subscribed to zope-web, please CC me in a replies...
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On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 15:53, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
Hey All,
Is it supposed to be down?
Chris
PS: I'm not longer subscribed to zope-web, please CC me in a replies...
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