[Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
Hi. I've been attempting to develop products with Zope 2.9, and am finding it increasingly difficult and slow to do so as Product refreshing no longer works. Google shows up a few results from mailing lists with somewhat negative responses (The gist I'm getting is that no-one 'in the know' wants

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
On 8/7/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Refreshing was always a hack and never something I would call a feature.It was always a hack for *development* purposes but not for production. Yes, but it's still very handy and many people have come to rely on it. You might blame Plone for

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
07, 2006 at 09:47:37PM +1000, James Davies wrote: Another major issue I've discovered is Zope hosting. We reguarly deploy custom sites on shared zope environments, and having to restart an entire server just to update one product severely breaks our uptime guarentee.If you use a ZEO setup you can

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
This isn't really a solution. Clients will still lose session data, which is unacceptable. -James. On Monday 07 August 2006 22:15, Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:12:42PM +1000, James Davies wrote: We have Zeo, but running a seperate instance of zope for each site

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-07 Thread James Davies
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 01:34, you wrote: You mean you can't allow the server even to be down for the less than a minute it takes to restart it? I would honestly be very interested in knowing what kind of systems you run that has that sort of requirements. Are you serious? People pay large

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9 Product Refreshing

2006-08-08 Thread James Davies
On 8/7/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might blame Plone for shipping for three tons of frameworks?Incidently, I've just added some print statements to trace the Zope startup, and Five is by far the slowest product to load, taking about 3 seconds. Running up is