[Zope] unwise.exe missing on linux

2005-07-27 Thread michael nt milne
Hi Does anyone know if the zope uninstall program 'unwise.exe' can be got separately? I have installed zope on linux but the unwise.exe program isn't within the package. Thanks Michael ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org

[Zope] Plone doesn't show up in the Zope Interface - ./runzope issue

2005-07-27 Thread michael nt milne
Hello This is my first experience of unix installs from source and I need a small amount of help to finish off my installation. I've installed Zope and Python from source, remotely, onto a RedHat box and am able to access the browser based ZMI admin screen remotely. I've followed the following

[Zope] Does Plone need the Zope CMF?

2005-07-27 Thread michael nt milne
Hi This isn't clear to me. I've installed Zope and Python from source but do I need to also install the Zope CMF for Plone to run properly? This isn't mentioned specifically any where if so. It would good to have some of these components wrapped up etc for easier install. I couldn't find the

[Zope] Zope 2.8.0

2005-07-29 Thread michael nt milne
Hi Does anyone know if Zope 2.8.0 works with any of the CMF 1.4 versions? Thanks ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope] localhost:8080 not found on windows

2005-08-04 Thread michael nt milne
PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: I have installed Zope and Plone on a windows business server. On trying to view http://localhost:8080/manage I am getting a 404 not found etc. Is that under IE? It's error messages can be misleading... The server is already

[Zope] Zope on IIS 6.0 without using ISAPI re-write tools from Freshlogic or HeliconTech?

2005-08-05 Thread michael nt milne
Hi I have installed Plone on a Windows Small Business Server running IIS 6.0 and have found that I can't get it to serve pages. The server also runs a separate Exchange webmail service. On doing a bit of research and with help from this list it seems that the problem is with IIS and its

[Zope] Anyone using isapirewrite or freshlogic re-write for IIS and Zope?

2005-08-05 Thread michael nt milne
Hi Has anyone used either of the ISAPI re-write tools for IIS and Zope from HeliconTech at http://www.isapirewrite.com or at Freshlogic http://freshlogic.net ? I'm attempting to set up a largescale instance on a windows small business server. The latter is written more for Plone and Zope in

[Zope] ZDatabaseTool - does this still exist?

2005-08-08 Thread michael nt milne
Hi Does anyone know if this still exists? I'd like to have an easier way to manage the Zope database. The page at http://www.zope.org/Members/aeg/ZDatabaseTool doesn't provide any downloads. Are there any other database manager tools for the ZODB? like the one that mySQL has over the web.

[Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

2005-08-09 Thread michael nt milne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Apols for delay in replying - been on the hoof. michael nt milne wrote: Thanks for the advice. Yes I've looked at everything mentioned here. Localhost is in the hosts file. Zope has started as a service. I've changed the hosts file to include localhost

[Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

2005-08-09 Thread michael nt milne
Kilner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Michael nt milne wrote: I read though that you have to do a re-write in IIS or install an ISAPI re-write extension so that IIS speaks to zope. There's also the 404 asp script in Andy Mckay's book. This only applies if you are using the /same

[Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

2005-08-09 Thread michael nt milne
: Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: Ok thanks. Will check on the ISA side. I've it up and running on a laptop fine. Will let you know progress. Would you say it should be fine just running the app from the zope server on 8080 once it is running,rather than configuring to go through

[Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

2005-08-10 Thread michael nt milne
which is strange. On 8/9/05, Philip Kilner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, michael nt milne wrote: Ok, thanks. Yes, Apache would be much better to route traffic through. And also it looks like a complete pain to try and route traffic through IIS. Is Apache for windows good? I only

Re: [Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

2005-08-10 Thread michael nt milne
so I guess if I have http://plone.sbcscot.com then I could tell Apache to route that to Zope? How would I tell IIS or ISA not to listen to that domain? Meanwhile I noticed on installing Apache that it failed to bind to port 80!On 8/10/05, Philip Kilner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael,michael nt

[Zope] Zope service being shut down automatically on Windows

2005-08-10 Thread michael nt milne
Does anyone have experience of their Zope/Plone instance being closed down mysteriously on windows XP or other windows platforms. A microsoft demon? I keep having to re-start it. Michael ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org

[Zope] Re: ZDatabaseTool - does this still exist?

2005-08-11 Thread michael nt milne
I'm looking for a phpmyadmin type tool for managing the ZODB.The control panel view in zope doesn't let you do anything apart from the basics. Obviously I could use python to access the db but looking for something easier. On 8/10/05, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote

[Zope] Re: ZDatabaseTool - does this still exist?

2005-08-11 Thread michael nt milne
Hi I've already made it clear in this thread exactly what I want to do! It doesn't to be a relational db to be able to easily add fields.The database browser tools in the ZMI are ok but basic. On 8/11/05, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Aug 2005, at 10:31, michael nt milne wrote

[Zope] Re: ZDatabaseTool - does this still exist?

2005-08-11 Thread michael nt milne
, at 15:01, michael nt milne wrote: Hi I've already made it clear in this thread exactly what I want to do! It doesn't to be a relational db to be able to easily add fields.The database browser tools in the ZMI are ok but basic. No you haven't. First of all, the application you point

Re: [Zope] Re: ZDatabaseTool - does this still exist?

2005-08-11 Thread michael nt milne
.On 8/11/05, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote at 2005-8-11 10:01 -0400:It doesn't to be a relational db to be able to easily add fieldsThere are no tables to add fields to.As someone else already pointed out:Zope objects often use so called properties as field

Re: [Zope] Re: ZDatabaseTool - does this still exist?

2005-08-11 Thread michael nt milne
PS I also subscribed to the collective-CMFMember list and got some help there: which I include below... Alec Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] to collective-cmf. More options3:39 pm (6 hours ago) On Thursday 11 August 2005 06:19 am, michael nt milne wrote: I've tried a few products in 2.1

Re: [Zope] Re: localhost:8080 not found on windows

2005-08-11 Thread michael nt milne
Thanks for the help here. Much appreciated. Still not running but getting there.On 8/10/05, Philip Kilner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Michael,michael nt milne wrote: I've even tried using the machine's local IP but that doesn't work in the same way that localhost doesn't. I've installed

[Zope] ZEO on Windows

2005-08-24 Thread michael nt milne
Hi Does anyone know if the 2.0.5 windows release of Plone includes ZEO? Is there any configuration information on this? Also does Zope 2.8 for linux have ZEO as standard. Finally, if you don't run ZEO does this mean that Zope can only handle one request at a time? Thanks

[Zope] Re: Zope scalabilty and problems

2005-09-02 Thread michael nt milne
Hi I am setting up sites using Plone and am concerned to read some of the comments on it. Is it really that bad performance wise? I'm using CMFMember also-why is it 'apalling'? On 9/2/05, N.Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Andrew Sawyers wrote: Did Matt indicate if he

[Zope] schema won't update - persistant .pyc files??

2005-09-21 Thread michael nt milne
I've been trying to edit basic text information in a product schema, the member.py of the Samplex tutorial but the text I enter simply won't update through to the form on the website. I've tried everything, including flushing the cache and refreshing the product, re-starting etc. Seems like Zope

[Zope] Problems getting server running in debug mode

2005-09-21 Thread michael nt milne
Has anyone had any problems running in debug mode? I took out the # in the zope.conf file next to - debug-mode on which would set it to be on. However my server wouldn't come back up so I had to turn it off. Zope Version (Zope 2.8.0-final, python 2.3.5, linux2) Python Version 2.3.5

Re: [Zope] Problems getting server running in debug mode

2005-09-22 Thread michael nt milne
, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone had any problems running in debug mode? I took out the # in the zope.conf file next to- debug-mode on which would set it to be on. However my server wouldn't come back up so I had to turn it off. Zope Version (Zope 2.8.0-final , python 2.3.5, linux2) Python

Re: [Zope] Problems getting server running in debug mode

2005-09-22 Thread michael nt milne
Yes, that's what I mean. I'll try that.On 9/22/05, Peter Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you actually mean ./zopectl not ./zopect1Try ./runzope which will spit out all messages to stdout.2005/9/22, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I restart using ./zopect1 then startI'm right

Re: [Zope] schema won't update - persistant .pyc files??

2005-09-22 Thread michael nt milne
/portal_memberdata/base_edit and press the Save button.2005/9/21, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been trying to edit basic text information in a product schema, the member.py of the Samplex tutorial but the text I enter simply won't update through to the form on the website. I've tried everything

[Zope] Re: schema won't update - persistant .pyc files??

2005-09-22 Thread michael nt milne
the problem. 2005/9/22, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes it is. I solved it by uninstalling the product in the ZMI, then, deleting the product in the UNIX command line instead of FTP,(same user) and restarting. The product stuill appeared in the ZMI even though it wasn't

[Zope] Zope product for Customer Relationship Managment?

2005-09-27 Thread michael nt milne
I've had a look through the product listings and have noticed contactand project management tools but none for CRM etc? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

[Zope] emergency access problems

2005-09-29 Thread michael nt milne
Hi I appear to be having difficulty logging into the ZMI using the password created on install. I did change some settings to my root login using the Samplex member product etc but didn't change the password, login etc. Anyway I've followed all the instructions in security.txt, telnetting in as

[Zope] Re: emergency access problems

2005-09-29 Thread michael nt milne
Just to say that I solved this by using ./zopectl adduser name password with zope shut down. On 9/29/05, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I appear to be having difficulty logging into the ZMI using the password created on install. I did change some settings to my root login using

Re: [Zope] emergency access problems

2005-09-29 Thread michael nt milne
Yes, the access file was being created in the homeinstance. One thing I didn't do was run the zpasswd.py file when zope was stopped though, as I did with ./zopectl On 9/29/05, J Cameron Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote: Hi I appear to be having difficulty logging into the ZMI

Re: [Zope] emergency access problems

2005-09-30 Thread michael nt milne
Thanks. I sorted it out using ./zopectl adduser.On 9/30/05, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote:Anyway I've followed all the instructions in security.txt , telnettingstop right there... you should be using ssh... in as the user that made the zopeinstance and running

Re: [Zope] Plone update

2005-10-02 Thread michael nt milne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the list On 10/1/05, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Sep 2005, at 23:49, Michael Kaplan wrote: I'm running Plone 2.0.5 with Zope 2.7.7-final and tried to upgrade to Plone 2.1. A dry-run of portal_migration stopped with errors : I believe this question

Re: [Zope] Plone update

2005-10-02 Thread michael nt milne
sorry [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 10/2/05, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the list On 10/1/05, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Sep 2005, at 23:49, Michael Kaplan wrote: I'm running Plone 2.0.5 with Zope 2.7.7-final and tried to upgrade

[Zope] version of the Zope book with user comments included?

2005-11-14 Thread michael nt milne
Hi I remember seeing a version of the Zope book which also had user comments included. It was very useful. However I haven't been able to find this again using Google. Does anyone have the link. I found it brilliant for issues that cropped up on install. Thanks

Re: [Zope] Re: version of the Zope book with user comments included?

2005-11-14 Thread michael nt milne
Thanks. Strangely, the comments only display when the comments are set to off...in IE6 and also latest Firefox.On 11/14/05, Michael Haubenwallner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:michael nt milne wrote: HiI remember seeing a version of the Zope book which also had user comments included. It was very

[Zope] unlinking stale socket?

2005-11-22 Thread michael nt milne
Hi My zopeinstance went down and I was getting an 'upstream server' unknown message from apache. On restarting zope from ./zopectl this was the message I got. unlinking stale socket /home/zopeinstance/var/zopectl/sock,sleep/ No handlers could be found for logger 'root' Does anyone have any

Re: [Zope] unlinking stale socket?

2005-11-22 Thread michael nt milne
?If so, did it work? - COn Nov 22, 2005, at 9:52 AM, michael nt milne wrote: Hi My zopeinstance went down and I was getting an 'upstream server' unknown message from apache. On restarting zope from ./zopectl this was the message I got. unlinking stale socket /home/zopeinstance/var/zopectl/sock

Re: [Zope] unlinking stale socket?

2005-11-22 Thread michael nt milne
the last time it was run (without cleaning up after itself).It'snot a fatal error or at least hasn't been whenever I've seen it.On Nov 22, 2005, at 10:57 AM, michael nt milne wrote: Yes, I noticed that the deamon wasn't running and so re-started it. It started up fine but that was the message I

Re: [Zope] unlinking stale socket?

2005-11-22 Thread michael nt milne
seen it. On Nov 22, 2005, at 10:57 AM, michael nt milne wrote: Yes, I noticed that the deamon wasn't running and so re-started it. It started up fine but that was the message I received. Just wondered what happened etc.. On 11/22/05, Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows

2005-12-19 Thread michael nt milne
with it by default I think. On 12/19/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likely the rewrite module isn't loaded (check the corresponding LoadModulestatements of your configuration).-aj--On 19. Dezember 2005 16:33:59 + michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does RewriteEngine work on Apache

Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows

2005-12-19 Thread michael nt milne
] /VirtualHostOn 12/19/05, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, i simply downloaded the Apache 2.0.55 release for Windoes from Apache. Thre RewriteEngine is set to on in the httpd.conf. God knows why the module wouldn't be available in the distribution. Do you know any documentation on how to install

Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows

2005-12-22 Thread michael nt milne
/http/name:80/site/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P]/VirtualHost On 12/19/05, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ok, i simply downloaded the Apache 2.0.55 release for Windoes from Apache.Thre RewriteEngine is set to on in the httpd.conf. God knows why themodule wouldn't be available in the distribution

[Zope] Zope Security

2006-01-12 Thread michael nt milne
HiJust a quick query about Zope security etc. I've got an installation on a Windows server using Apache, which also hosts internal email/data etc. This is behind a router/firewall. Just wondering if there are any Zope security issues that I should be aware of? How secure is Zope? ThanksMichaelPS

[Zope] can't create user with zopectl - Resource temporarily unavailable

2006-01-21 Thread michael nt milne
Hi I've been trying to use adduser through zopectl on a dev instance of zope but get the following error. Is the lock file the problem? Thanks File /opt/Zope-2.8/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage/FileStorage.py, line 114, in __init__ self._lock_file = LockFile(file_name + '.lock') File

Re: [Zope] can't create user with zopectl - Resource temporarily unavailable

2006-01-21 Thread michael nt milne
, write and execute permissions to a user on a whole directory which is required for running mkzopesintance.py under the non-root user? I tried chgrp and chmod but couldn't get it working command line. On 1/21/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 21. Januar 2006 15:16:35 + michael nt milne

[Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread michael nt milne
HiI've got a few Plone sites set-up using Apache through Zope. The question is, I'd like to implement SSL on the site login etc, as it's not secure without this. There's also one site I'd like to serve completely over https. However. I'm told that you can't run SSL on virtual hosts and can only

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread michael nt milne
Ok, thanks. The annoying thing is that I am renting a virtual dedicated server which allows multiple domain names obviously but not multiple IP addresses. Or it probably costs more for that. Do you reckon SSL will ever be available for virtual single IP based hosts? On 1/24/06, Jens Vagelpohl

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread michael nt milne
I guess though that the pop-up for the certificate only happens once for each client when they enter the site? On 1/24/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 24 Jan 2006, at 15:12, michael nt milne wrote: Ok, thanks. The annoying thing is that I am renting a virtual dedicated server which

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread michael nt milne
ok, they're not technically subdomains but full domains in their own right but served from a single server which has its own domain. Would a wild card work with that? Would the pop-ups still be present when a user enters the site? On 1/24/06, Slobodan Jovcic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use a wildcard

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread michael nt milne
_Slobodan JovcicTeaching Enhancement CenterOffice of Instructional Development, UCLA(310) 794 2099 On Jan 24, 2006, at 9:31 AM, michael nt milne wrote:ok, they're not technically subdomains but full domains in their own right but served from a single server which has its own

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread michael nt milne
Ok, that's really interesting. Thanks. Yes I could just stay using SSL after the login if there's a problem with going non-sslI understand the setting up the single secure domain bit linked to the IP address but don't quite get how I would link each site's login areas to that? Basically are you

[Zope] Re: SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread michael nt milne
Ok thanks very much for this. Much appreciated. On 1/24/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it work if you carried the SSL through and continued the session? On 1/24/06, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jens. I tried something similar to this about a year ago

[Zope] Re: SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-24 Thread michael nt milne
Would it work if you carried the SSL through and continued the session? On 1/24/06, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jens. I tried something similar to this about a year ago as an experiment. I think the problem I had at the time with with session expiring and I was thinking about

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-25 Thread michael nt milne
to the Plone 8080 port? The port doesn't have to be 443? On 1/25/06, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Donsbach schrieb: On 1/24/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks. The annoying thing is that I am renting a virtual dedicated server which allows multiple

Re: [Zope] SSL over Multiple Zope/Plone sites?

2006-01-25 Thread michael nt milne
of the login areas etc. Thanks for all the help Michael On 1/25/06, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks. The annoying thing is that I am renting a virtual dedicated server which allows multiple domain names obviously

[Zope] Zope/Plone logon security strategy etc

2006-01-25 Thread michael nt milne
Just a quick question about Zope/Plone logins and security etc. When I go to www.domain.com:8080/manage I get a login box which seems to function in exactly the same way as the www.domain.com:8080/login_form page. My question is, what was the rational for implementing this logon strategy in Zope

Re: [Zope] Zope/Plone logon security strategy etc

2006-01-25 Thread michael nt milne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Jan 2006, at 17:17, michael nt milne wrote: Just a quick question about Zope/Plone logins and security etc. When I go to www.domain.com:8080/manage I get a login box which seems to function in exactly the same way as the www.domain.com:8080/login_form page

[Zope] Re: Zope/Plone logon security strategy etc

2006-01-25 Thread michael nt milne
Cookie authentication can't be secure. Also I have my doubts about http authentication. I'll check though. Basicallx you want really good encryption on any logon and password etc. On 1/25/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Jan 2006, at 18:55, michael nt milne wrote: Hi

[Zope] Re: Zope/Plone logon security strategy etc

2006-01-25 Thread michael nt milne
logon would be good. On 1/25/06, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne schrieb: Cookie authentication can't be secure. Also I have my doubts about http authentication. I'll check though. Basicallx you want really good encryption on any logon and password etc. You want

[Zope] main Zope 3 benefits

2006-02-01 Thread michael nt milne
HiIs there a page anywhere which lists the main benefits of Zope 3? I've had a look around and there is lots of developer information but not so much for the site manager/producer-- Michael ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org

Re: [Zope] main Zope 3 benefits

2006-02-02 Thread michael nt milne
, michael nt milne wrote: Is there a page anywhere which lists the main benefits of Zope 3?You can find the proposal for it starting from zope.org, Idon't know the actual URLs, but it's not hard to find by searching. According to the beginer I am, the benefit is that zope2 will disapear (as well as zope

Re: [Zope] Multiple Zope Instance

2006-02-03 Thread michael nt milne
You just change the port numbers in the zope.conf file. Change zope-instance-2 to run on 8080.On 2/3/06, Infor Gates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear zopistI am using Zope 2.8.4 on windows. I have installed and created a zope instance-1 which run as a service in WindowXP. Later, I created a 2nd zope

[Zope] htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-06 Thread michael nt milne
HiI've managed to set-up SSL over Apache and Zope/Plone virtual hosts on Windows but am slightly stuck on implementing the htaccess part of my solution. I've done extensive googleing but can't seen to find any solid documentation. My question is, do you need the Directory definition within the

[Zope] Re: htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-07 Thread michael nt milne
] wrote: michael nt milne wrote: I've managed to set-up SSL over Apache and Zope/Plone virtual hosts on Windows but am slightly stuck on implementing the htaccess part of my solution. I've done extensive googleing but can't seen to find any solid documentation. This is an Apache question, go

[Zope] Re: htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-07 Thread michael nt milne
Also I'm implementing an extranet solution where extra security is required-so therefore an apache login and a further plone login for editing the site. On 2/7/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry but there's alot of Apache knowledge here and it's completely relevant. Also Zope

[Zope] Re: htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-07 Thread michael nt milne
that's why I'm looking into Apache authentication. I just don't think that Zope authentication is secure. On 2/7/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also I'm implementing an extranet solution where extra security isrequired-so therefore an apache login and a further plone login forediting

Re: [Zope] Re: htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-07 Thread michael nt milne
have a directory. If I were to place this in the zope root then I would password protect all the sites. I only wan't to password protect one etc. On 2/8/06, Andreas Pakulat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07.02.06 23:58:20, michael nt milne wrote: Also, just to say that I did a test on only letting

Re: [Zope] Re: htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
. This shouldn't happen with view set to authenticated. On 2/8/06, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Feb 2006, at 23:58, michael nt milne wrote: Also, just to say that I did a test on only letting authenticated and managers view the root page of the site over ssl. If you just cancelled

[Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
HiI have major problems here trying to set-up authentication over a whole Plone site using Zope. Using my superuser account I've navigated to the site root page in the ZMI where it lists all the site pages and objects etc. I've then gone into security, scrolled down to the bottom and for the

Re: [Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote at 2006-2-8 16:48 +:I have major problems here trying to set-up authentication over a wholePlone site using Zope. Using my superuser account I've navigated to the siteroot page in the ZMI where it lists all the site pages and objects etc. I've then gone

Re: [Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
on the login box. Complete nightmare. This was the reason I wanted to go with Apache security as it's more robust.MichaelOn 2/8/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for the advice. I'll have another look at the security settings but this is undoubtedly an issue. The superuser password

Re: [Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
this on a couple of set-ups. And this is apart from the usability. On 2/8/06, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne schrieb:Thanks for the advice. I'll have another look at the security settings but this is undoubtedly an issue.The superuser password not working is the main one etc

Re: [Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
21:25:33, michael nt milne wrote: I've just tried this on a completely different server. I also made sure that 'access contents information' was set to 'manager' and 'authenticated'.Wow, you read the zope-book on security, setup a new zope on a server and checked this in just 10 minutes? Forgive me

Re: [Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
Sorry but this is not my experience and I have experimented. Am using gmail basic setting which I like. On 2/8/06, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:michael nt milne schrieb: Of course I did. Why on earth would you be able to view a front page of a site when it is labelled as

Re: [Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
an issue. On 2/8/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote: I have major problems here trying to set-up authentication over a whole Plone site using Zope. Using my superuser account I've navigated to the site root page in the ZMI where it lists all the site pages

Re: [Zope] Re: htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-08 Thread michael nt milne
Sorry but can't you post in one message? Also, Zope does do SSL but it's not as good as Apache. And some advice - keep personal insults out of it.On 2/8/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote: ok, I've gone into the security tab in the site root and set 'view

Re: [Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-09 Thread michael nt milne
Sorry but the SSL and virtual hosting through Apache is all working fine. It's only the authentication bit that I'm having an issue with. Should be easy compared to what I've configured previously. And isn't it Plone? :-) On 2/9/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote

Re: [Zope] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-09 Thread michael nt milne
Over and out on this one from me and thanks for all your help Sorry but SSL over virtual hosts *is* more involved that setting up a basic password protectOn 2/9/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote: Sorry but the SSL and virtual hosting through Apache is all

Re: [Zope] Re: htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-09 Thread michael nt milne
. And that wasn't even sourced from an Apache board. A Plone list member very kindly proferred the information. But then again this isn't an Apache list is it.. On 2/9/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote: Sorry but can't you post in one message?That, coming from you, is pretty rich

Re: [Zope] Re: htaccess with zope/plone ?

2006-02-09 Thread michael nt milne
Thanks for the help. I got some good Apache advice on the Plone list vis avis locationWhat I'd like to do is have Apache and Zope (roles, workflow) for extrasecurity over SSL. I'll re-visit the authentication issue with the help I've received. On 2/9/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-10 Thread michael nt milne
doesn't help but there you go. Glad you feel entertained Norbert. I have been as well and at the same time have made quite a bit of progress. Cheers.On 2/9/06, Norbert Marrale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Chris Withers wrote: michael nt milne wrote: Over and out on this one from me You promise? ;-) ChrisI

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-10 Thread michael nt milne
You liar! I couldn't resist :-) You seem so entertained. Bit of sport and all that.I've spoken to many people on various lists and can confirm the feeling about usability on the ZMI etc. You call them 'halfwits'. That puts you on rather high ground and this attitude is obviously part of the

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-10 Thread michael nt milne
I agree. I didn't start it and I find it un-professional. I came here with a genuine issue, have received some help which I thank people for and have made some legitimate points. I find the Zope and Plone lists are generally very good and an not interested in slanging matches. ThanksMichaelOn

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-10 Thread michael nt milne
has very strong non graphical usability elements. On 2/10/06, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/10/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've spoken to many people on various lists and can confirm the feeling about usability on the ZMI etc. You call them 'halfwits'. That puts you

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-10 Thread michael nt milne
/06, Floyd May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/10/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. I didn't start it and I find it un-professional. I came here with a genuine issue, have received some help which I thank people for and have made some legitimate points. I find the Zope and Plone

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-11 Thread michael nt milne
/11/06, Philip Kilner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael,michael nt milne wrote: Yes I found that as well but picked it up from the Google cache. Strange that it is available there as it's password protected. Possibly it was public before?Yes, it was public before.Have you tried this, and does

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-12 Thread michael nt milne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Michael,michael nt milne wrote: I've implemented what's outlined in the make private site documentation and it works fine on Plone 2.1.1. No content is available apart from the site-map page (doesn't list content) and the contact form but I can figure that out

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-12 Thread michael nt milne
that as an excuse for them all to get a better browser.. Thanks for the comments Michael On 2/12/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote: Yes, I've got the whole site going over SSL and the :8080 port re-directing to SSL. Anything not over SSL should be blocked, not redirected

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-14 Thread michael nt milne
with Opera. On 2/14/06, Igor Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne wrote: Yes, I do realise that it's hard. Regarding the cookie comment that was the reason I wanted to use Apache location based login. I do realise that leaving a logon cookie is insecure and that comment was perhaps

Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-14 Thread michael nt milne
I am sure you know this, but since we have learned very little (or atleast I have - maybe I am not paying attention well enough :-): Have you modified that rule to take advantage of the SSL -server?Perhaps the SiteAccess rule is triggering adn trying to redirect you toan address/port where there

Re: [Zope] Re: TextIndexNG2 problems

2006-02-14 Thread michael nt milne
No idea...I won't spend any time on windows issues at this point.Life-is-too-short-to-waste-it-with-windows-issues, Well of course Windows isn't the ideal platform and sucks on many levels but the fact that many, many, businesses have their own Windowssmall business serverboxes in house and can

Re: [Zope] Re: Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-15 Thread michael nt milne
Chris, back to throwing personal insults eh. I'll refrain from going down that line as it's tedious and un-professional. You've obviously not listened to the advice of your fellow peers on that front. Everyone can take on a little advice and I've remarked previously that I was wrong in my initial

Re: [Zope] Advice needed before settling on Zope

2006-02-15 Thread michael nt milne
Hi We looked at Plone, and then I decided we might be better off going down a level and building on Zope. What turned you off Plone? On 2/15/06, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/15/06, Rainsford, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our client is quite specific about what they

Re: [Zope] Zope/Plone logon security strategy etc

2006-02-15 Thread michael nt milne
Hi DieterI've installed DigestAuth. Just wondering if there are any set-up instructions at all?ThanksMichaelOn 1/26/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:michael nt milne wrote at 2006-1-25 18:55 +: Yeah I know the security aspects are good once you are in, howeverwhen you login it's

Re: [Zope] Zope/Plone logon security strategy etc

2006-02-15 Thread michael nt milne
PSI won't be using this with SSL obviously. Good to use it to secure login areas where the other content doesn't require SSL.On 2/15/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi DieterI've installed DigestAuth. Just wondering if there are any set-up instructions at all?ThanksMichaelOn 1/26/06

Re: [Zope] SSL Digest Auth

2006-02-16 Thread michael nt milne
No, I read that for digest authentication to work the authentication data can't be encrypted. Therefore it seems perfect for implementing more security on non-SSL sites or sites that don't need SSL but need more security on logon. On 2/16/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi

Re: [Zope] Re: Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-16 Thread michael nt milne
will try the access rule on Plone first and then go for the IE rules in Apache. I'll get there in the end. As I say there's another guy on the Plone list who can't post images over SSL with IE so I'm speaking to him as well. Michael On 2/15/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael nt milne

Re: [Zope] Re: Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?

2006-02-16 Thread michael nt milne
yeah, take his advice Chris :-) On 2/16/06, Floyd May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been said a million times in a million different ways, so let'stick that counter one more time and make it a million and one: DON'T FEED THE

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