[Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML

2000-07-14 Thread Brad Moulton

Hello All,

as  a newbie I was wondering if those zope developers who use Linux 
have come across any HTML editors that support DTML tags
I note that the Windows developers prefer Homesite.

I'd just like to know what the Linux community have tested and found
suitable
 I am currently using Webmaker but it doesn't support DTML tags or
syntax checking

I have also been asked to mention Dreamweaver I noticed that 
Dreamweaver  has a Coldfusion CFML plug-in
Is anyone interested in developing a similar plugin for DTML
I am only a novice python programmer but would be willing to help if anyone
feels it is worthwhile

Just some ideas as I am a python/Zope newbie but like what I have seen so
far.
i can only offer limited help at this stage but would be willing to help
wherever possible if a guru needs a disciple.

thanks to all those who have and are contributing to Zope. I cannot keep up
with all the Zope from the mailing list but am sure it will be very useful as I
progress along the path   



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Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML)

2000-06-28 Thread Gidon Friedman

 Does anyone know of a good (free!) java applet based text editor?  Something
 with basic color tagging abilities and maybe even (gasp) a spell checker,
 search/replace, etc?  If there is one, we could mod it to spit its output as
 a form post, and hus have a great built-in editor for most browsers...

that would be nice, but you would have to build one yourself. Java Swing
has an HTMLEditorKit, but i never tried to use it. have a look at:
http://www.mokabyte.it/1999/12/htmleditor.htm
it explains in italian how to do it (untested).

or you could use javascript:
 http://www.cris.com/~raydaly/htmljive.html

Gidon



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RE: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formofXML)

2000-06-28 Thread Jon Franz

This looks very cool - the HTMl jive, that is.  I'm going to mod it some,
and get permission from the author to incorporate it into Zope... I'll add
some features like search and replace also...


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 Does anyone know of a good (free!) java applet based text editor?
Something
 with basic color tagging abilities and maybe even (gasp) a spell checker,
 search/replace, etc?  If there is one, we could mod it to spit its output
as
 a form post, and hus have a great built-in editor for most browsers...

that would be nice, but you would have to build one yourself. Java Swing
has an HTMLEditorKit, but i never tried to use it. have a look at:
http://www.mokabyte.it/1999/12/htmleditor.htm
it explains in italian how to do it (untested).

or you could use javascript:
 http://www.cris.com/~raydaly/htmljive.html

Gidon


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[Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form ofXML)

2000-06-26 Thread Jeff Peterson

As promised I did some checking over the weekend.

As for Windows editors, Homesite WILL let you create tags,
it works quite well actually.  One draw back (or a blessing, 
depending on your view) would be that it would force you to 
do dtml attributes long form, for example:

dtml-var name="foo" rather than dtml-var foo

the nice thing is that you would have a nice drop down menu 
of choices.  It supports syntax highlighting and has a ton of
helpful features.  In addition, if you gather enough Homesite 
"clue" you could also create your own wizards to accomplish 
certain tasks. 

Also for Windows there is Multi-Edit.  Not as powerful as Homesite
as an HTML, CFML, ad infinitum editor(well, maybe as powerful but 
it has all sorts of toolbars and buttons to push...annoying), but 
it has support for a tremendous number of legitimate programming 
languages built in including PERL, Python, JavaScript, C/C++, Delphi, 
ad nauseam.  While you can edit all this in Homesite, Multi-Edit 
provides support for compilers, error messages, and templates for 
almost any programming language you can think of (ad nauseam, remember?).
This doesn't necessarily help with DTML but maybe it's not all you do.

Both of these are priced nicely, Homesite goes for about $100 and 
can be checked out at www.allaire.com, while Multi-Edit prices at 
around $130(online) and can be found at www.amcyber.com. 

For Linux there is a nice little editor called NEdit.  NEdit 
includes customizable syntax highlighting, spell checker, etc.  
Unfortunately I know not of whether you can create customized tags
but, I doubt it very much.  Not as nice as the Windows stuff and 
there may be better editors made for Linux but this one does 
nicely in a pinch and beats the snot out of vi.  RPM's, and source
are both available, for free of course. 

That's my $.02,

Jeff Peterson
Software Engineer
The Bridge/Befera Interactive Cablenet
  





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Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form of XML)

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

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 OK, now the same question (what HTML editor understands / can be
 made to understand DTML), but rund on Linux instead of Windows?
 Right now, I use vi. I'll have to try the vim ftp plugins I've
 seen on the list.
 Anything else that works?

you can extend vim to tag hilight dtml, if you want.  I'd certainly love
to see it. http://www.vim.org/lang.html would be where to start.

I think you could do the same thing with emacs, if you were so inclined.

ethan mindlace fremen
Zopatista Community Liason

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Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form of XML)

2000-06-24 Thread jan

OK, now the same question (what HTML editor understands / can be
made to understand DTML), but rund on Linux instead of Windows?
Right now, I use vi. I'll have to try the vim ftp plugins I've
seen on the list.
Anything else that works?

Cheers,
Jan

... see you at Linuxtag 2000

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[Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form of XML)

2000-06-23 Thread Eric L. Walstad

// b. Make it possible for some HTML editors that can extend their tag
// database to recognize DTML tags.
Maybe this is a little off topic, but did you have an editor in mind when
you changed the syntax?  Can you recommend an HTML editor that runs on
Windows that will do this?  I am currently coding DTML in VisualC++'s IDE
using VBScript to paste in the DTML.  This method works OK, but if there is
something better, I'd love to hear about it.
Thanks,
Eric.


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Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized formof XML)

2000-06-23 Thread Oleg Broytmann

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Eric L. Walstad wrote:
 Maybe this is a little off topic, but did you have an editor in mind when
 you changed the syntax?  Can you recommend an HTML editor that runs on
 Windows that will do this?  I am currently coding DTML in VisualC++'s IDE
 using VBScript to paste in the DTML.  This method works OK, but if there is
 something better, I'd love to hear about it.

   All our webmasters here use HomeSite.

Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer)
 
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Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS

2000-05-29 Thread Nils Kassube

Bill Anderson wrote:

 GVIM

Yes! This is a powerful editor with an easy-to-use interface
available for every major platform (and a lot of minor ones): 

http://www.vim.org 
http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?EmacsVsVi

I use Vim daily on Mac OS, Win98 and Unix (Linux, Slowlaris) 
and love the consistent cross-plattform UI.

Cheers,
Nils



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RE: [Zope] HTML EDITORS

2000-05-26 Thread Wright, Geoff

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 11:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
 
 
 Luis Cortes wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  Has anyone found a really good HTML EDITOR that plays nice 
 with dtml tags?
  
  Do anybody have anything they can really recommend?
 
 GVIM

I'll second that.

And it works just as nicely on Windoze as it does on *NIX.  If you you're
interested in using it, I'll send you my vimrc.  It's well simple and
well-commented.  I don't have any special syntax stuff for dtml, but find
that
the standard html highting works just fine.

If you haven't dealt with vi before, you'll find the learing curve a bit
steep, but you'll _love_ it when you get the hang of it.  And if you come
from a GUI world, gvim gives you all the little niceites you're used to,
like cut  paste, scroll bars, mouse-based highlighting and that sort of
thing.  Of couse, once you get used to gvim, you can just hide your mouse
under you desk form most of the day  :)

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