Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-07 Thread J. Atwood
Message-- From: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Firestar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 6, 2000 2:55:02 PM GMT Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow? No. Not when compared to other applications that do the same *type* of thing (which there are very very few). Check out an inter

RE: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-07 Thread Coleman, Bryan
PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow? -maybe we could discuss network services/hoster_performance? This is more of a problem for most people. One evening whilst bored we calculated that Zope could happily serve eno

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-07 Thread J. Atwood
Well, i don't think my site will ever get that much hits:) Anyway, i check out Digicool website on this ZEO thing, and it seems that they charge abt $25,000 for this product alone(+consulting)? Not to belittle their effort, but that's a huge amount of money, considering that everything

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Firestar
Hi, thanks for your comment. Absolutely. Apache is many times faster than Zope. (Don't know much about AOLserver, but anything with AOL. :) However, Apache can't do squat compared with Zope when it comes to dynamic content. Not true. I have been programming using PHP and PERL, and

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Bill Anderson
is yr experience using Zope? Define slow. Slow compared to what? Doing what? That's a ig difference between Zope and Apache and AOLServer. they don't _do_ the stuff that Zope does. It's like comparing a Corvette and a v10 Dodge RAM. id the Dodge 'slow'? When compared to the vette. But does

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Firestar
Hi Bill, thanks for your reply. --Original Message-- From: Bill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Firestar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 6, 2000 8:19:39 AM GMT Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow? Define slow. Slow compared to what? Doing what? That's a ig difference between Zope and Apache

[Zope] RE: Re[2]: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Firestar
Hi john, u can check out the benchmark here: http://weblogs.userland.com/qube/ regards, firestar --Original Message-- From: John Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Curtis Maloney [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 6, 2000 4:12:33 AM GMT Subject: Re[2]: [Zope] Is Zope slow

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Phill Hugo
Firestar wrote: I have been programming with PHP and PERL, and they are quite fast, even when serving dynamic pages. Of course, they do not provide all the features of Zope, but they are able to handle things like sessions, authentication, database API...which is quite adequate for most

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 04:27:22AM -0400, Firestar wrote: Well, i do appreciate the 'extra' features that Zope provides, but speed is still a matter of concern here. Imagine showing my boss "what my website can do" and all those advanced features, but it crawls like a snail... "Slow" does

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread michael bolger
maybe if we all share "optimum" hardware configuration to improve performance+ -where is your server "hosted" as this is vital(obviously:)) to speed/performance -maybe we could discuss network services/hoster_performance? michael drawingincode ___

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread J. Atwood
: Firestar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:13:32 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] Is Zope slow? Hi, I'm considering using Zope as the development tool for my next web project. However, I read from a recent benchmark test (from Qube, i think) that Zope(running thru

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Andy McKay
-maybe we could discuss network services/hoster_performance? This is more of a problem for most people. One evening whilst bored we calculated that Zope could happily serve enough people to fill up our pipe... so the bottle neck is our connection. Mind you we'd had a beer or two so

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Steve Alexander
Firestar wrote: Check out Jakob Nielsen's website and you would know that speed of serving webpages is one of the main usability factors. The bottleneck is not generally the speed of serving webpages, but rather, the speed of the client downloading the data from webpages, as the data has to

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Ben Leslie
-maybe we could discuss network services/hoster_performance? This is more of a problem for most people. One evening whilst bored we calculated that Zope could happily serve enough people to fill up our pipe... so the bottle neck is our connection. Mind you we'd had a beer or two so

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Curtis Maloney
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, Firestar wrote: Hi, thanks for your comment. Absolutely. Apache is many times faster than Zope. (Don't know much about AOLserver, but anything with AOL. :) However, Apache can't do squat compared with Zope when it comes to dynamic content. Not true. I have

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Marco Mariani
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 04:13:31AM -0400, Firestar wrote: Of course if i have time, i will play ard with it and see how good it is. Problem is that time is not really on my side and i need to decide on my next development tool fast(i have yet to try out other stuff e.g. ASP, JSP, Servlet..)

Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread Luke Tymowski
using Zope? I run the QubeQuorner weblog where those numbers came from. Zope isn't slow. It's slower than Apache serving static pages. But Zope is dynamic. I haven't yet had time to do proper dynamic comparisons between the various servers. I run a few Zope sites. And I'm adding more Zope sites