Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-21 Thread Erik Billing


Ah! Thanx! DocFinder will shore come very useful in time =)



Btw, what editor would you recommend for writing python
outside Zope. I've frequently used Eclipse with PyDev before, but it's a bit slow
and heavy. I've looked around a bit on the free editors without finding
anything I like so I'm thinking it might be worth trying a commercial editor. What
do you guys use? 

/ErikOn 4/20/06, Stefan H. Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recommend to install DocFinderTab. And there is something at http://api.plone.org/ for those who like such things ;-)StefanOn 18. Apr 2006, at 13:21, Erik Billing wrote:
 Is there any complete api reference avalible?--Anything that happens, happens.--Douglas Adams
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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-21 Thread Tino Wildenhain

Erik Billing schrieb:


Ah! Thanx! DocFinder will shore come very useful in time =)

Btw, what editor would you recommend for writing python outside Zope. 
I've frequently used Eclipse with PyDev before, but it's a bit slow and 
heavy. I've looked around a bit on the free editors without finding 
anything I like so I'm thinking it might be worth trying a commercial 
editor. What do you guys use?


Linux/KDE: kate and/or eric3 (nice because of seamless sftp/webdav)
Linux: vim, some will use (x)emacs, pida

Windows: hm. I've used the ide that comes with the win32 extensions
 from Marc Hammond. You bend some paths and get nice module
 view and hinting for zope classes too.

Regards
Tino

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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-21 Thread Peter Sabaini
On Friday 21 April 2006 10:15, Tino Wildenhain wrote:
 Erik Billing schrieb:
  Ah! Thanx! DocFinder will shore come very useful in time =)
 
  Btw, what editor would you recommend for writing python outside Zope.
  I've frequently used Eclipse with PyDev before, but it's a bit slow and
  heavy. I've looked around a bit on the free editors without finding
  anything I like so I'm thinking it might be worth trying a commercial
  editor. What do you guys use?

 Linux/KDE: kate and/or eric3 (nice because of seamless sftp/webdav)
 Linux: vim, some will use (x)emacs, pida

 Windows: hm. I've used the ide that comes with the win32 extensions
   from Marc Hammond. You bend some paths and get nice module
   view and hinting for zope classes too.

I've used WingIDE a bit lately and am quite impressed by its feature set:

* Good editor: Syntax coloring, folding, autocompletion, ...
* Auto-lookup of documentation 
* Visual Debugger: watches, breakpoints, lots of goodies
* Code / Class browser
* Zope support

Last but not least: great support staff. 

It uses quite a bit of resources though.

Review of Python IDEs:
http://spyced.blogspot.com/2005/09/review-of-6-python-ides.html

peter.

 Regards
 Tino

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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:54:15AM +0200, Erik Billing wrote:
 Btw, what editor would you recommend for writing python outside Zope. I've
 frequently used Eclipse with PyDev before, but it's a bit slow and heavy.
 I've looked around a bit on the free editors without finding anything I like
 so I'm thinking it might be worth trying a commercial editor. What do you
 guys use?

Emacs :-)
It takes a bit of work to get it set up nicely, but there are some
really nice features like good pdb integration.

e.g. try this:  put a pdb.set_trace() somewhere in your code, and
then run the program from a shell within emacs - e.g. you can start a
shell by typing M-x shell, and then type the command to run your
program.  When you enter pdb, you can step around
the code and emacs shows you where you are in another buffer, opening
modules as you step into them. I've said it before: All hail Ken Manheimer!

I'm sure plenty of IDEs can do stuff like that, but I'm surprised how
many emacs users don't seem to know it's there.

(dunno if all that works on Windows, never tried.)

The code-completion support is pretty rudimentary, though.  It seems to
only be good for repeating symbols already in your source file.

And no built-in browsing of documentation afaict.

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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-20 Thread Stefan H. Holek
I recommend to install DocFinderTab. And there is something at http:// 
api.plone.org/ for those who like such things ;-)


Stefan


On 18. Apr 2006, at 13:21, Erik Billing wrote:


Is there any complete api reference avalible?


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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-19 Thread Sascha Welter
(Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 12:00:12PM -0400) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote/schrieb/egrapse:
 From: Erik Billing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thank you, that worked nicely. But I was unable to call the LazyFilter from
 the DTML document, I figure I have to import the ZTUtils module first. Is
 there a special DTML-tag to do import?
 
 By the way? Is there some obvious documentation about the different modules
 that I have missed? As I mentioned in an earlier letter I'm new to Zope and
 I find it very hard to get an overview of all the different modules

If you are new to Zope you should drop DTML like a hot potatoe and start
doing your logic in python and your presentation in ZPT -- strictly
parted. 

Also don't bother too much with implementing stuff with TTW means
(through the web - the stuff you do from the ZMI). Better start doing
filesystem python products. Read for example
http://zopewiki.org/ZopeStarter - including the link to the new
tutorial from upfrontsystems. 

The ZopeStarter page is a 5 minute read, but has good pointers to stuff
that will get you started in the right directioin.

Regards,

Sascha

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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-19 Thread Erik Billing


This is
what they should put on the documentation page on zope.org instead of a link to
the zope book, thank your very much for telling me!/Erik

On 4/19/06, Sascha Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 12:00:12PM -0400) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote/schrieb/egrapse: From: Erik Billing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thank you, that worked nicely. But I was unable to call the LazyFilter from the DTML document, I figure I have to import the ZTUtils module first. Is there a special DTML-tag to do import?
 By the way? Is there some obvious documentation about the different modules that I have missed? As I mentioned in an earlier letter I'm new to Zope and I find it very hard to get an overview of all the different modules
If you are new to Zope you should drop DTML like a hot potatoe and startdoing your logic in python and your presentation in ZPT -- strictlyparted.Also don't bother too much with implementing stuff with TTW means
(through the web - the stuff you do from the ZMI). Better start doingfilesystem python products. Read for examplehttp://zopewiki.org/ZopeStarter - including the link to the new
tutorial from upfrontsystems.The ZopeStarter page is a 5 minute read, but has good pointers to stuffthat will get you started in the right directioin.Regards,Sascha___
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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-18 Thread Erik Billing
Thank you, that worked nicely. But I was unable to call the
LazyFilter from the DTML document, I figure I have to import the ZTUtils module
first. Is there a special DTML-tag to do import?

By the way? Is there some obvious documentation about the different
modules that I have missed? As I mentioned in an earlier letter I'm new to Zope
and I find it very hard to get an overview of all the different modules available.
It seams to me that the API Reference on the zope home page does not cover the
modules completely. For example, I found ZTUtils listed, but it only contains the
Batch class, not the LazyFilter or any of the other classes in the module. I
feel that this is the case with many of the modules.Is there any complete api reference avalible?Best regards /ErikOn 4/17/06, Dieter Maurer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Erik Billing wrote at 2006-4-16 18:55 +0200:
...Thanx, it worked fine when I allowed the unauthorized module, but I stillwonder if this is the way I *should* do it, is there no easier way that doesnot incorporate an python script (or a similar clumsy dtml solution). It
just feels a little overkill to write a specific script just to access thefiles in a directory.You can use the LazyFilter from the ZTUtils package.In fact, it is defined in 
ZTUtils.Zope (but exported via ZTUtils)and you can look there for its signature.--Dieter
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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-18 Thread Dieter Maurer
Erik Billing wrote at 2006-4-18 11:42 +0200:
Thank you, that worked nicely. But I was unable to call the LazyFilter from
the DTML document, I figure I have to import the ZTUtils module first. Is
there a special DTML-tag to do import?

No, you have to go through a Python Script.

But, you can make it generic, something like a filterUnauthorized
script.

 ...
Is there any complete api reference avalible?

The Plone people have an epidoc documentation online (I do not
have the url at hand, you have to search for it).

Like any documentation generated automatically from the source
(this is valid also for Java documentation), it is complete
but contains more details than you might be interested in.

-- 
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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-18 Thread Erik Billing
Ok. I didn't find any epidoc on plone at a first googleing, but I have a closer look and post the link here if I find it. 

I solved some of the API doc problem by starting a local pydoc server (ex. pydoc -p 8079) which cover even the zope modules when I put them in the python path. But 
I'm
still somewhat surprised that there is no more complete documentation on Zope. I
will post my comments about this in a new thread since it no longer has
anything to do with permissions and stuff. 

Anyway, thank you very much for your help Dieter. Best regards /ErikOn 4/18/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:Erik Billing wrote at 2006-4-18 11:42 +0200:Thank you, that worked nicely. But I was unable to call the LazyFilter from
the DTML document, I figure I have to import the ZTUtils module first. Isthere a special DTML-tag to do import?No, you have to go through a Python Script.But, you can make it generic, something like a filterUnauthorized
script. ...Is there any complete api reference avalible?The Plone people have an epidoc documentation online (I do nothave the url at hand, you have to search for it).
Like any documentation generated automatically from the source(this is valid also for Java documentation), it is completebut contains more details than you might be interested in.--Dieter

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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-17 Thread Dieter Maurer
Erik Billing wrote at 2006-4-16 18:55 +0200:
...
Thanx, it worked fine when I allowed the unauthorized module, but I still
wonder if this is the way I *should* do it, is there no easier way that does
not incorporate an python script (or a similar clumsy dtml solution). It
just feels a little overkill to write a specific script just to access the
files in a directory.

You can use the LazyFilter from the ZTUtils package.
In fact, it is defined in ZTUtils.Zope (but exported via ZTUtils)
and you can look there for its signature.

-- 
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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-16 Thread Erik Billing
On 4/11/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erik Billing wrote at 2006-4-10 20:38 +0200: ...This works fine, except that it's a bit clumsy and has one big error; Icatch just any exception that arises from thefiles.append(fileIterator.next
())-call,and swallow it.In fact, you should *NEVER* do this.I totally agree 
I've tried catching only the Unauthorized-exception, but ananonymus user does not have access to the Unauthorized-exception, so I can'tspecify is in my except-declaration without getting a new authorization
error.The README in Products/PythonScripts (unmong others) tellsyou how to allow the import of usually protected ressources.--Dieter

Thanx, it
worked fine when I allowed the unauthorized module, but I still wonder if this
is the way I *should* do it, is there no easier way that does not incorporate
an python script (or a similar clumsy dtml solution). It just feels a little overkill
to write a specific script just to access the files in a directory. 

/Erik
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Re: [Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-11 Thread Dieter Maurer
Erik Billing wrote at 2006-4-10 20:38 +0200:
 ...
This works fine, except that it's a bit clumsy and has one big error; I
catch just any exception that arises from the
files.append(fileIterator.next())-call,
and swallow it.

In fact, you should *NEVER* do this.

I've tried catching only the Unauthorized-exception, but an
anonymus user does not have access to the Unauthorized-exception, so I can't
specify is in my except-declaration without getting a new authorization
error.

The README in Products/PythonScripts (unmong others) tells
you how to allow the import of usually protected ressources.

-- 
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[Zope] Permissions, files and folders

2006-04-10 Thread Erik Billing
Hi!I just started looking at zope, so this might be a pretty nooby question, but I didnt find an answere anywhere, so...I want to create a DTML Method that lists the files in a folder that the current user has access to. Problem is that the objectValues-method returns all files simultaniously, so I get a 

AccessControl.unauthorized.Unauthorized exception when I call the method. I did a litle python script that iterates over the objectValues and catches the errors raised from unauthorized files as folows:files = []
fileIterator = iter(container.objectValues('File'))while True: try:  files.append(fileIterator.next()) except Exception, e: if isinstance(e,StopIteration): break
 else: files.append(e)return files

This works
fine, except that it's a bit clumsy and has one big error; I catch just any
exception that arises from the files.append(fileIterator.next())-call, and swallow
it. I've tried catching only the Unauthorized-exception, but an anonymus user
does not have access to the Unauthorized-exception, so I can't specify is in my
except-declaration without getting a new authorization error. All thaw it works fine to catch all exceptions for a simple
directory listing like this, its defiantly nothing I wanna put into a larger application.




So my question
is, how do I do this in a nicer way?

Thanx /Erik
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