Re: [Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
I think earlier than Zope 2.12 python 2.4 is mandatory.. don't quote me on that :) On 09/12/10 06:52, Dan Gaibel wrote: So OS X Server Snow Leopard comes with Python 2.6.1. Is there any reason to think that this Python version would cause problems with Zope 2.8.6? We have had nice stability with Python 2.3.5. Either way, is Zope 2.8.7 a significantly better choice than 2.8.6? On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Richard Harley wrote: Dan - we are using 64bit Zope 2.8.7 and python 2.4 with no problems for years now. It can do everything we want with regards to Python scripting, database connectivity etc. I can't think of any huge problems with staying on Zope 2.8.6/7 era. I have said before 2.10+ breaks lots of products that would take ages to hack about (especially for companies using Zope not individuals with time on their hands). I'm all for upgrading, bug fixing and refactoring normally, but the backwards compatibility with Zope makes it harder than it should be. Rich On 08/12/10 12:11, Peter Bengtsson wrote: We're running several perfectly working 2.8 Zopes. They've been very stable. Annoying that Ubuntu insists on making Python 2.4 hard to install but for some of the servers we've changed back to Debian. On 7 December 2010 16:58, Dan Gaibeld...@cornell.edu wrote: Good advice here, thanks! Is it a big mistake to stay at Zope 2.8.6? The server has been very stable for years, apparently. What are the downfalls of not upgrading all the way past 2.10? On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ Tres Seaver ]-- | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | On 12/07/2010 01:18 PM, Dan Gaibel wrote: | | I have recently inherited the responsibility of supporting a fairly | complex web server running Zope 2.8.6 on Python 2.3.5. This | configuration is currently on a Linux (Fedora Core) server and I | would like very much to migrate to OS X Server Snow Leopard. It also | seems to me that I should consider upgrading Zope to a more current | release while I'm at it. We heavily use MySQL and associated | products, LocalFS, and the Python Imagining Library. We have a | variety of ZClass homegrown products as well. | | I know that I'm in for a headache no matter what, but I wonder if any | of you folks could point me in the right direction or offer advice on | the situation. Is it crazy to jump from 2.8.6 to 2.12? Does anyone | use OS X Server for Zope? Is this migration a mistake? Any pitfalls I | should be looking out for? | | I would do this in small steps, e.g. first migrate to the new machine / OS: | | - - Get Python 2.3.x installed on the OS/X server. | | - - Build the latest Zope 2.8.* on that server. | | - - Install and test products there in the same versions you now use. | | - - Copy your old database over and test. | | then upgrade the software stack: | | - - Move carefully through the Zope releases (I would to 2.9, 2.10, and' | 2.12), upgrading Python as needed to stay on a supported version. | | - - Check for upgrades to the products, and their compatibility with | Zope versions. Test them, and your site. after each upgrade. The move from 2.9 to 2.10 is likely to be the most painful part in terms of legacy Zope apps. A lot of products will break on 2.10 -- Andrew Milton a...@theinternet.com.au ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 07:52, Dan Gaibel d...@cornell.edu wrote: So OS X Server Snow Leopard comes with Python 2.6.1. Is there any reason to think that this Python version would cause problems with Zope 2.8.6? Yes, that would cause problems. We have had nice stability with Python 2.3.5. Either way, is Zope 2.8.7 a significantly better choice than 2.8.6? No, but then it's unlikely to cause you any upgrade worries as it should be pretty much only bugfixes. //Lennart ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
We're running several perfectly working 2.8 Zopes. They've been very stable. Annoying that Ubuntu insists on making Python 2.4 hard to install but for some of the servers we've changed back to Debian. On 7 December 2010 16:58, Dan Gaibel d...@cornell.edu wrote: Good advice here, thanks! Is it a big mistake to stay at Zope 2.8.6? The server has been very stable for years, apparently. What are the downfalls of not upgrading all the way past 2.10? On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ Tres Seaver ]-- | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | On 12/07/2010 01:18 PM, Dan Gaibel wrote: | | I have recently inherited the responsibility of supporting a fairly | complex web server running Zope 2.8.6 on Python 2.3.5. This | configuration is currently on a Linux (Fedora Core) server and I | would like very much to migrate to OS X Server Snow Leopard. It also | seems to me that I should consider upgrading Zope to a more current | release while I'm at it. We heavily use MySQL and associated | products, LocalFS, and the Python Imagining Library. We have a | variety of ZClass homegrown products as well. | | I know that I'm in for a headache no matter what, but I wonder if any | of you folks could point me in the right direction or offer advice on | the situation. Is it crazy to jump from 2.8.6 to 2.12? Does anyone | use OS X Server for Zope? Is this migration a mistake? Any pitfalls I | should be looking out for? | | I would do this in small steps, e.g. first migrate to the new machine / OS: | | - - Get Python 2.3.x installed on the OS/X server. | | - - Build the latest Zope 2.8.* on that server. | | - - Install and test products there in the same versions you now use. | | - - Copy your old database over and test. | | then upgrade the software stack: | | - - Move carefully through the Zope releases (I would to 2.9, 2.10, and' | 2.12), upgrading Python as needed to stay on a supported version. | | - - Check for upgrades to the products, and their compatibility with | Zope versions. Test them, and your site. after each upgrade. The move from 2.9 to 2.10 is likely to be the most painful part in terms of legacy Zope apps. A lot of products will break on 2.10 -- Andrew Milton a...@theinternet.com.au ___ Zope maillist - z...@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - z...@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby donecal.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
Dan - we are using 64bit Zope 2.8.7 and python 2.4 with no problems for years now. It can do everything we want with regards to Python scripting, database connectivity etc. I can't think of any huge problems with staying on Zope 2.8.6/7 era. I have said before 2.10+ breaks lots of products that would take ages to hack about (especially for companies using Zope not individuals with time on their hands). I'm all for upgrading, bug fixing and refactoring normally, but the backwards compatibility with Zope makes it harder than it should be. Rich On 08/12/10 12:11, Peter Bengtsson wrote: We're running several perfectly working 2.8 Zopes. They've been very stable. Annoying that Ubuntu insists on making Python 2.4 hard to install but for some of the servers we've changed back to Debian. On 7 December 2010 16:58, Dan Gaibeld...@cornell.edu wrote: Good advice here, thanks! Is it a big mistake to stay at Zope 2.8.6? The server has been very stable for years, apparently. What are the downfalls of not upgrading all the way past 2.10? On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ Tres Seaver ]-- | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | On 12/07/2010 01:18 PM, Dan Gaibel wrote: | | I have recently inherited the responsibility of supporting a fairly | complex web server running Zope 2.8.6 on Python 2.3.5. This | configuration is currently on a Linux (Fedora Core) server and I | would like very much to migrate to OS X Server Snow Leopard. It also | seems to me that I should consider upgrading Zope to a more current | release while I'm at it. We heavily use MySQL and associated | products, LocalFS, and the Python Imagining Library. We have a | variety of ZClass homegrown products as well. | | I know that I'm in for a headache no matter what, but I wonder if any | of you folks could point me in the right direction or offer advice on | the situation. Is it crazy to jump from 2.8.6 to 2.12? Does anyone | use OS X Server for Zope? Is this migration a mistake? Any pitfalls I | should be looking out for? | | I would do this in small steps, e.g. first migrate to the new machine / OS: | | - - Get Python 2.3.x installed on the OS/X server. | | - - Build the latest Zope 2.8.* on that server. | | - - Install and test products there in the same versions you now use. | | - - Copy your old database over and test. | | then upgrade the software stack: | | - - Move carefully through the Zope releases (I would to 2.9, 2.10, and' | 2.12), upgrading Python as needed to stay on a supported version. | | - - Check for upgrades to the products, and their compatibility with | Zope versions. Test them, and your site. after each upgrade. The move from 2.9 to 2.10 is likely to be the most painful part in terms of legacy Zope apps. A lot of products will break on 2.10 -- Andrew Milton a...@theinternet.com.au ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
So OS X Server Snow Leopard comes with Python 2.6.1. Is there any reason to think that this Python version would cause problems with Zope 2.8.6? We have had nice stability with Python 2.3.5. Either way, is Zope 2.8.7 a significantly better choice than 2.8.6? On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Richard Harley wrote: Dan - we are using 64bit Zope 2.8.7 and python 2.4 with no problems for years now. It can do everything we want with regards to Python scripting, database connectivity etc. I can't think of any huge problems with staying on Zope 2.8.6/7 era. I have said before 2.10+ breaks lots of products that would take ages to hack about (especially for companies using Zope not individuals with time on their hands). I'm all for upgrading, bug fixing and refactoring normally, but the backwards compatibility with Zope makes it harder than it should be. Rich On 08/12/10 12:11, Peter Bengtsson wrote: We're running several perfectly working 2.8 Zopes. They've been very stable. Annoying that Ubuntu insists on making Python 2.4 hard to install but for some of the servers we've changed back to Debian. On 7 December 2010 16:58, Dan Gaibeld...@cornell.edu wrote: Good advice here, thanks! Is it a big mistake to stay at Zope 2.8.6? The server has been very stable for years, apparently. What are the downfalls of not upgrading all the way past 2.10? On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ Tres Seaver ]-- | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | On 12/07/2010 01:18 PM, Dan Gaibel wrote: | | I have recently inherited the responsibility of supporting a fairly | complex web server running Zope 2.8.6 on Python 2.3.5. This | configuration is currently on a Linux (Fedora Core) server and I | would like very much to migrate to OS X Server Snow Leopard. It also | seems to me that I should consider upgrading Zope to a more current | release while I'm at it. We heavily use MySQL and associated | products, LocalFS, and the Python Imagining Library. We have a | variety of ZClass homegrown products as well. | | I know that I'm in for a headache no matter what, but I wonder if any | of you folks could point me in the right direction or offer advice on | the situation. Is it crazy to jump from 2.8.6 to 2.12? Does anyone | use OS X Server for Zope? Is this migration a mistake? Any pitfalls I | should be looking out for? | | I would do this in small steps, e.g. first migrate to the new machine / OS: | | - - Get Python 2.3.x installed on the OS/X server. | | - - Build the latest Zope 2.8.* on that server. | | - - Install and test products there in the same versions you now use. | | - - Copy your old database over and test. | | then upgrade the software stack: | | - - Move carefully through the Zope releases (I would to 2.9, 2.10, and' | 2.12), upgrading Python as needed to stay on a supported version. | | - - Check for upgrades to the products, and their compatibility with | Zope versions. Test them, and your site. after each upgrade. The move from 2.9 to 2.10 is likely to be the most painful part in terms of legacy Zope apps. A lot of products will break on 2.10 -- Andrew Milton a...@theinternet.com.au ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
Greetings, I have recently inherited the responsibility of supporting a fairly complex web server running Zope 2.8.6 on Python 2.3.5. This configuration is currently on a Linux (Fedora Core) server and I would like very much to migrate to OS X Server Snow Leopard. It also seems to me that I should consider upgrading Zope to a more current release while I'm at it. We heavily use MySQL and associated products, LocalFS, and the Python Imagining Library. We have a variety of ZClass homegrown products as well. I know that I'm in for a headache no matter what, but I wonder if any of you folks could point me in the right direction or offer advice on the situation. Is it crazy to jump from 2.8.6 to 2.12? Does anyone use OS X Server for Zope? Is this migration a mistake? Any pitfalls I should be looking out for? Many thanks, Dan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/07/2010 01:18 PM, Dan Gaibel wrote: I have recently inherited the responsibility of supporting a fairly complex web server running Zope 2.8.6 on Python 2.3.5. This configuration is currently on a Linux (Fedora Core) server and I would like very much to migrate to OS X Server Snow Leopard. It also seems to me that I should consider upgrading Zope to a more current release while I'm at it. We heavily use MySQL and associated products, LocalFS, and the Python Imagining Library. We have a variety of ZClass homegrown products as well. I know that I'm in for a headache no matter what, but I wonder if any of you folks could point me in the right direction or offer advice on the situation. Is it crazy to jump from 2.8.6 to 2.12? Does anyone use OS X Server for Zope? Is this migration a mistake? Any pitfalls I should be looking out for? I would do this in small steps, e.g. first migrate to the new machine / OS: - - Get Python 2.3.x installed on the OS/X server. - - Build the latest Zope 2.8.* on that server. - - Install and test products there in the same versions you now use. - - Copy your old database over and test. then upgrade the software stack: - - Move carefully through the Zope releases (I would to 2.9, 2.10, and' 2.12), upgrading Python as needed to stay on a supported version. - - Check for upgrades to the products, and their compatibility with Zope versions. Test them, and your site. after each upgrade. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkz+jJwACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5/0wCgujisDb7vxO966ywlxvORAAsZ vXAAnjpGkfah2Bf0ME29x5dEhhMakNdK =rSSg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
+---[ Tres Seaver ]-- | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | On 12/07/2010 01:18 PM, Dan Gaibel wrote: | | I have recently inherited the responsibility of supporting a fairly | complex web server running Zope 2.8.6 on Python 2.3.5. This | configuration is currently on a Linux (Fedora Core) server and I | would like very much to migrate to OS X Server Snow Leopard. It also | seems to me that I should consider upgrading Zope to a more current | release while I'm at it. We heavily use MySQL and associated | products, LocalFS, and the Python Imagining Library. We have a | variety of ZClass homegrown products as well. | | I know that I'm in for a headache no matter what, but I wonder if any | of you folks could point me in the right direction or offer advice on | the situation. Is it crazy to jump from 2.8.6 to 2.12? Does anyone | use OS X Server for Zope? Is this migration a mistake? Any pitfalls I | should be looking out for? | | I would do this in small steps, e.g. first migrate to the new machine / OS: | | - - Get Python 2.3.x installed on the OS/X server. | | - - Build the latest Zope 2.8.* on that server. | | - - Install and test products there in the same versions you now use. | | - - Copy your old database over and test. | | then upgrade the software stack: | | - - Move carefully through the Zope releases (I would to 2.9, 2.10, and' | 2.12), upgrading Python as needed to stay on a supported version. | | - - Check for upgrades to the products, and their compatibility with | Zope versions. Test them, and your site. after each upgrade. The move from 2.9 to 2.10 is likely to be the most painful part in terms of legacy Zope apps. A lot of products will break on 2.10 -- Andrew Milton a...@theinternet.com.au ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Upgrading Zope and OS X Server
Good advice here, thanks! Is it a big mistake to stay at Zope 2.8.6? The server has been very stable for years, apparently. What are the downfalls of not upgrading all the way past 2.10? On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ Tres Seaver ]-- | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | On 12/07/2010 01:18 PM, Dan Gaibel wrote: | | I have recently inherited the responsibility of supporting a fairly | complex web server running Zope 2.8.6 on Python 2.3.5. This | configuration is currently on a Linux (Fedora Core) server and I | would like very much to migrate to OS X Server Snow Leopard. It also | seems to me that I should consider upgrading Zope to a more current | release while I'm at it. We heavily use MySQL and associated | products, LocalFS, and the Python Imagining Library. We have a | variety of ZClass homegrown products as well. | | I know that I'm in for a headache no matter what, but I wonder if any | of you folks could point me in the right direction or offer advice on | the situation. Is it crazy to jump from 2.8.6 to 2.12? Does anyone | use OS X Server for Zope? Is this migration a mistake? Any pitfalls I | should be looking out for? | | I would do this in small steps, e.g. first migrate to the new machine / OS: | | - - Get Python 2.3.x installed on the OS/X server. | | - - Build the latest Zope 2.8.* on that server. | | - - Install and test products there in the same versions you now use. | | - - Copy your old database over and test. | | then upgrade the software stack: | | - - Move carefully through the Zope releases (I would to 2.9, 2.10, and' | 2.12), upgrading Python as needed to stay on a supported version. | | - - Check for upgrades to the products, and their compatibility with | Zope versions. Test them, and your site. after each upgrade. The move from 2.9 to 2.10 is likely to be the most painful part in terms of legacy Zope apps. A lot of products will break on 2.10 -- Andrew Milton a...@theinternet.com.au ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question about copyng btree elements
Hi! I've a Zope BTree called answers. It contains PersistentMapping objects: self.answers[userid] = PersistentMapping(value=value, comments=comments) value can be a string, a list or a dictionary what happen exactly if I do: question.answers[a_userdid] = question.answers[another_user_id] ? From my (poor) tests they seems not to share anything, I mean I can modify question.answers[a_userdid] and question.answers[another_user_id] is untouched. Is this true? Should I beware of something? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about copyng btree elements
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Yuri wrote:
Hi!
I've a Zope BTree called answers. It contains PersistentMapping objects:
self.answers[userid] = PersistentMapping(value=value,
comments=comments)
value can be a string, a list or a dictionary
what happen exactly if I do: question.answers[a_userdid] =
question.answers[another_user_id] ?
From my (poor) tests they seems not to share anything, I mean I can
modify question.answers[a_userdid] and question.answers[another_user_id]
is untouched.
Is this true? Should I beware of something?
I can't reproduce your reported behavior::
- - $ --
$ bin/virtualenv-2.6 --no-site-packages /tmp/yuri
...
$ cd /tmp/yuri/
$ bin/easy_install ZODB3
...
$ bin/python
...
from BTrees.OOBTree import OOBTree
from persistent.mapping import PersistentMapping
answers = OOBTree()
john = PersistentMapping(value=John's value,
... comment=John's comment)
answers['john'] = john
answers['fred'] = answers['john']
answers['fred'] is john
True
print john
{'comment': John's comment, 'value': John's value}
answers['fred']['value'] = Fred's value
print john
{'comment': John's comment, 'value': Fred's value}
- - $ --
Tres.
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[Zope] Question about ZSyncer
Hi All: I would like to know if the ZSyncer product can sync data between two DBs on the same instance rather than two instances themselves. Any help is greatly appreciated. TIA, R -- And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about ZSyncer
That is supposed to work, if you enable the relative paths option. In fact, that was how I did most of my testing when I added that feature. But I don't work on ZSyncer at all anymore. If it doesn't work, I can't really help. - PW On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Ajay Deshpanderiffenst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All: I would like to know if the ZSyncer product can sync data between two DBs on the same instance rather than two instances themselves. Any help is greatly appreciated. TIA, R -- And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw ___ Zope maillist - z...@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about InvariantsValidator on a GroupForm (z3c.form)
Hi all,
i'm having a problem getting an InvariantsValidator working on a grouped form
using z3c.form. Imagine the following setup:
class GroupOne(Group):
fields = Fields(IMyForm).select('second_attribute', 'third_attribute')
class GroupTwo(Group):
fields = Fields(IMyForm).select('fourth_attribute', 'fifth_attribute')
class MyForm(GroupForm, Form):
fields = Fields(IMyForm).select('first_attribute')
groups = (GroupOne, GroupTwo)
Now, the z3c.form.validator.Data object passed to my InvariantsValidator only
contains the 'first_attribute'. I think this is caused by line 190 in field.py:
def validate(self, data):
fields = self.form.fields.values()
Why is this method only looking for form.fields and not aggregating form.fields
and possible form.groups?
Is it an unsupported use case, or am i just not getting it?
Thanks,
Oliver
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[Zope] question about use zc.async in Zope2
Hi all, In Plone2.5.5(with Zope2.9.6-final) I use zasync as my schedule task framework, it works well. Then I update my site to Plone3.1.7, and go further update to use Zope2.11.2 and ZODB3.9.0. Now I want to replace zasync with zc.async. As I know in Zope3 there is a event 'zope.app.appsetup.IDatabaseOpenedEvent' that you can subscribe to start your zc.async dispatcher. But in Zope2.11.2, the event never be fired, so I have to find other point to start the dispatcher. My method is start it when you first use it, see the snip following: === class AsyncTool( UniqueObject, SimpleItem, ActionProviderBase ): ... def addJob( self, *args ): ''' ''' self._startZCAsync() portal = getToolByName(self,'portal_url').getPortalObject() # get queue from portal root queue = zc.async.interfaces.IQueue( portal ) # insert a job job = queue.put( Job(...) ) def _startZCAsync( self ): # create volatile attributes if not hasattr( self, '_v_start_zcasync' ): self._v_start_zcasync = 0 if not self._v_start_zcasync: db = Zope2.DB # zc.async does not startup, start it now zc.async.configure.base() zc.async.configure.start( db, poll_interval=1, twisted=False ) self._v_start_zcasync = 1 === It works, but fragile. Any of my jobs execute failure will cause the 'volatile' attribute '_v_start_zcasync' lost, and dispatcher start process will run again, this cause error. So I want to know the right time to start zc.async dispatcher in Zope2? best regards eastxing ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about URL lookups
Sorry if this is too generic a question but thought I would throw it out. Interested in doing a page that does a ZSQL lookup based URL parts but not like a normal db lookup. I want another way to do: domain.com/LocalSearchFolder/lookup?category=27state=vacity=Fredericksburg More like this: domain.com/LocalSearchFolder/L-Fredericksburg/S-VA/C-Plumbing And that page (u...DTML preferably) would display the lookup results for Plumbing contractors in Fredericksburg, VA. Any pointers to ideas?? Thanks! -Allen ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about URL lookups
Script (Python) has a feature called traverse_subpath (you can rename in under the bindings tab, but why?) that may do what you want. Given domain.com/[script name]/L-Fredericksburg/S-VA/C-Plumbing: request.traverse_subpath should contain ['L-Fredericksburg', 'S-VA', 'C-Plumbing'] There may be better ways to do this, but this popped immediately for me. -- Jeffrey D Peterson Webmaster Crary Industries, Inc. -Original Message- From: zope-boun...@zope.org [mailto:zope-boun...@zope.org] On Behalf Of Allen Schmidt Sr. Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:43 AM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Question about URL lookups Sorry if this is too generic a question but thought I would throw it out. Interested in doing a page that does a ZSQL lookup based URL parts but not like a normal db lookup. I want another way to do: domain.com/LocalSearchFolder/lookup?category=27state=vacity=Fredericksburg More like this: domain.com/LocalSearchFolder/L-Fredericksburg/S-VA/C-Plumbing And that page (u...DTML preferably) would display the lookup results for Plumbing contractors in Fredericksburg, VA. Any pointers to ideas?? Thanks! -Allen ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about Roles
Zope 2.8.9.1 I have a user in the root acl_users but no Roles set. Then I go into the folder I want the user to have access in and using Local Roles, I assign Manager. Then on the page I use: dtml-if 'Manager' in _.SecurityGetUser().getRoles() show the update and delete form buttons /dtml-if For me, with Manager assigned in the root, I can see the buttons. But for this user, the buttons are not there. When I dtml-var the above getRoles() she only shows as 'Authenticated' but not 'Manager' and I show both. Just wondering why?? Thanks Allen ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Question about Roles
You need to check to see if said user has that role on the object in
question. getRoles is only going to show you roles assigned in the User
Folder, not local roles.
This code is doing a similar thing on my site, with a different role:
dtml-if expr=_.SecurityGetUser().has_role('Development Manager',
this())
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Allen Schmidt Sr.
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:38 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Question about Roles
Zope 2.8.9.1
I have a user in the root acl_users but no Roles set. Then I go into the
folder I want the user to have access in and using Local Roles, I assign
Manager. Then on the page I use:
dtml-if 'Manager' in _.SecurityGetUser().getRoles()
show the update and delete form buttons /dtml-if
For me, with Manager assigned in the root, I can see the buttons. But
for this user, the buttons are not there. When I dtml-var the above
getRoles() she only shows as 'Authenticated' but not 'Manager' and I
show both.
Just wondering why??
Thanks
Allen
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Re: [Zope] Question about Roles
That worked perfectly.
Thanks Matt!
Allen
Behrens Matt - Grand Rapids wrote:
You need to check to see if said user has that role on the object in
question. getRoles is only going to show you roles assigned in the User
Folder, not local roles.
This code is doing a similar thing on my site, with a different role:
dtml-if expr=_.SecurityGetUser().has_role('Development Manager',
this())
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[Zope] question about cataloging Page Templates
In Page Templates that use macros, how would you ensure that the entire rendered page is cataloged and returned by a search? For instance, this template: metal:block use-macro=here/template1/macros/main metal:slot fill-slot=additional-content tomatoes /metal:slot /metal:block is returned when you search for tomatoes but is not returned when you search on a word that is in the main macro in template1 Page Template. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about adapters
Hello guys. A question about adapters : I've written two adapters wich implement my own interface IMyAdapter. The first adapter adapts CMFCore.interfaces._content.IFolderish objects and the other one CMFCore.interfaces._content.IContentish objects. One of the base classes of the IFolderish objects also implement the IContentish interface, so when I adapt folderish objects with IMyAdapter(object), the adapter registered for the IContentish objects always wins. (and if it's a folderish object I want the adapter for IFolderish to jump in). In other words : How can I influence the order of adapter lookup? I'm feeling there should be a simple solution for this (applying a marker interface to folderish objects?), so I hope someone can point me in the right direction. Kind regards, Martijn. -- Martijn Jacobs Four Digits, Internet Solutions a: Willemsplein 15-1 6811 KB Arnhem NL kvk: 09162137 | btw: 8161.22.234.B01 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | web: http://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 (0)26 44 22 700 | fax: +31 (0)84 22 06 117 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about dot in method name
(Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:36:49PM +0100) bard st?phane wrote/schrieb/egrapse: hi every body i'm changing a very old zclass product. In this zclass i declare a python script with this name mydoc.xls this script return an xls file with an argument now i'm writing a zope2 product. How can I explain to zope that he should publish a certain method with a different name so when people type http://myIntranet/folder/mydoc.xls?fileName=hello.xls it point to a real python method (dot caracter are forbiden in python class method) http://betabug.ch/blogs/ch-athens/144 Zope Methods with a Dot in the name HTH! Regards, Sascha ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about dot in method name
thx sascha i already imagine a setattr could solve the problem, but i didn't test it at the real end of any other declaration. thank's for this tip ! hop you get nice weather in athen 2008/3/26, Sascha Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:36:49PM +0100) bard st?phane wrote/schrieb/egrapse: hi every body i'm changing a very old zclass product. In this zclass i declare a python script with this name mydoc.xls this script return an xls file with an argument now i'm writing a zope2 product. How can I explain to zope that he should publish a certain method with a different name so when people type http://myIntranet/folder/mydoc.xls?fileName=hello.xls it point to a real python method (dot caracter are forbiden in python class method) http://betabug.ch/blogs/ch-athens/144 Zope Methods with a Dot in the name HTH! Regards, Sascha ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about dot in method name
hi every body i'm changing a very old zclass product. In this zclass i declare a python script with this name mydoc.xls this script return an xls file with an argument now i'm writing a zope2 product. How can I explain to zope that he should publish a certain method with a different name so when people type http://myIntranet/folder/mydoc.xls?fileName=hello.xls it point to a real python method (dot caracter are forbiden in python class method) mydoc.xls = mydoc_xls(REQUEST=None) I know that Zclasses are bad :) , but I cannot change this URL, because lot's of people record it. thank's a lot for an advice. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about dot in method name
hi every body i'm changing a very old zclass product. In this zclass i declare a python script with this name mydoc.xls this script return an xls file with an argument now i'm writing a zope2 product. How can I explain to zope that he should publish a certain method with a different name so when people type http://myIntranet/folder/mydoc.xls?fileName=hello.xls it point to a real python method (dot caracter are forbiden in python class method) mydoc.xls = mydoc_xls(REQUEST=None) I know that Zclasses are bad :), but I cannot change this URL, because lot's of people record it. thank's a lot for an advice. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about dot in method name
Maybe a simple solution : Do you use apache as a frontend for your zope? If you do you can rewrite the incoming url's for example like this : RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/folder/mydoc.xls(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/myIntranet/object_in_zope/VirtualHostRoot/mydoc_xls$1 [L,P] hi every body i'm changing a very old zclass product. In this zclass i declare a python script with this name mydoc.xls this script return an xls file with an argument now i'm writing a zope2 product. How can I explain to zope that he should publish a certain method with a different name so when people type http://myIntranet/folder/mydoc.xls?fileName=hello.xls it point to a real python method (dot caracter are forbiden in python class method) mydoc.xls = mydoc_xls(REQUEST=None) I know that Zclasses are bad :) , but I cannot change this URL, because lot's of people record it. thank's a lot for an advice. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Martijn Jacobs Four Digits, Internet Solutions a: Willemsplein 15-1 6811 KB Arnhem NL kvk: 09162137 | btw: 8161.22.234.B01 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | web: http://www.fourdigits.nl tel: +31 (0)26 44 22 700 | fax: +31 (0)84 22 06 117 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about AdvancedQuery
Hi,
I want use a query like :
query['getPresta_chambres'] = { 'query': [15], 'range': 'min' }
But with AdvancedQuery I don't see how make it :
-
query = And(Eq('portal_type', 'Meubles'))
query = query Eq('review_state', 'published')
# This query don't run :
query = query Eq('getPresta_chambres', { 'query': [15],'range': 'min' })
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Could you help me :p ?
Julian
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RE: [Zope] basic python class zope question
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Tudor Gabriel Envoyé : mercredi 13 juin 2007 01:54 À : zope@zope.org Objet : [Zope] basic python class zope question hi im new here , first post ... and new to zope. i've read the manual ... and zope framework looks very promising ... i started writing a couple of templates ... and run into some basic problems like: Problem 1. is it posible to have a python class ... defined in a script like class learn: def print_something(self): print 'it works' and call it from zpt ... like span tal:replace=learn/print_somethingreplace/span? or how can i call a method from this object ? ... i tryied with python:learn.print_something() and many different ways and i still don't get it. i'm starting to suspect that i can use classes only as zope products and call from zpt ... only scripts without classes. also do i have to set the properties/attributes of the script which contains the class ... with the methods? because by calling learn/print_somthing i get an AttributeError ... url might be invalid etc... Problem 2. how can i call/return from an python script a html file which resides in some folder above the script. i wanna call abc/index.html ... from abc/def/script.py i tryied with the container[' index.html'[ but it doesn't return anything. thank you for the patience and sorry for the very basic questions ... but i feel that if i understand this things ... i can really get started with zope. Hi, or how can i call a method from this object ? To call a method of a class, you first have to possess an instance of that class in a variable. Then, supporing the variable is lrn_instance, you can use lrn_instance/print_something or python:lrn_instance.print_something() to call it. is it posible to have a python class ... defined in a script because by calling learn/print_somthing i get an AttributeError It should be possible to define a class in a script, but the script won't become that class, you will have to have that script return an instance of the class, and then you store it somewhere (a variable maybe, or a property of some other object if you want it to persist). As far as I can tell, it would probably be wiser to define the class in a Product, though. how can i call/return from an python script a html file which resides... This behaviour is built into Zope and is called acquisition: anything defined above your context is accessible as if it were in your context, as long as it isn't obscured by something else with the same name. The things you want to access will lose their extension, by the way: index_html.pt will become index_html, the same way that script.py becomes script From abc/def/script.py, context.index_html() should give you the rendering of abc/index_html.whatever_it_is Hope this helps, Jonathan This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Capgemini Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] basic python class zope question
hi im new here , first post ... and new to zope. i've read the manual ... and zope framework looks very promising ... i started writing a couple of templates ... and run into some basic problems like: Problem 1. is it posible to have a python class ... defined in a script like class learn: def print_something(self): print 'it works' and call it from zpt ... like span tal:replace=learn/print_somethingreplace/span? or how can i call a method from this object ? ... i tryied with python: learn.print_something() and many different ways and i still don't get it. i'm starting to suspect that i can use classes only as zope products ... and call from zpt ... only scripts without classes. also do i have to set the properties/attributes of the script which contains the class ... with the methods? because by calling learn/print_somthing i get an AttributeError ... url might be invalid etc... Problem 2. how can i call/return from an python script a html file which resides in some folder above the script. i wanna call abc/index.html ... from abc/def/script.py i tryied with the container['index.html'[ but it doesn't return anything. thank you for the patience and sorry for the very basic questions ... but i feel that if i understand this things ... i can really get started with zope. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question on URL styling
I am making a survey that has many very similar pages all in one directory. The page templates are called page-1.html, page-2.html, ... page-n.html. I am using two submit buttons on each of the pages; one for 'Next' and one for 'Previous' so that I catch changes to the form elements in each direction. I use a python script as index_html, and hit it on each submit (form action=.), and then redirect to the appropriate page, whether that page is current_page++ or current_page--. I also stuff all form variables into SESSION in the index_html python script. What I am wondering though, is how to display the 'page' portion of the address - right now it always just displays as http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/ I would like it to display http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, etc. The pages are all accessible directly by those names, but by always going to index_html and returning the page via return container[next_page](context, request) I never see this part in the URL. Thanks for any suggestions. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on URL styling
- Original Message - From: Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: [Zope] question on URL styling I am making a survey that has many very similar pages all in one directory. The page templates are called page-1.html, page-2.html, ... page-n.html. I am using two submit buttons on each of the pages; one for 'Next' and one for 'Previous' so that I catch changes to the form elements in each direction. I use a python script as index_html, and hit it on each submit (form action=.), and then redirect to the appropriate page, whether that page is current_page++ or current_page--. I also stuff all form variables into SESSION in the index_html python script. What I am wondering though, is how to display the 'page' portion of the address - right now it always just displays as http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/ I would like it to display http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, etc. The pages are all accessible directly by those names, but by always going to index_html and returning the page via return container[next_page](context, request) I never see this part in the URL. One possible work-around is to rename your python script, reformat your urls and use traverse_subpath to access the page to be displayed. eg. if you name your script 'displayPage', then you can have a url like: http://myzopesite/workingdirectory/displayPage/page-1.html the displayPage script will be invoked and it can then access REQUEST['traverse_subpath'] (which in the above case will contain 'page-1.html'). hth Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on URL styling
I'm trying this out and it seems to be working: request.RESPONSE.redirect(context[next_page].absolute_url()) is this the *correct* way to do it? Erik Myllymaki wrote: I am making a survey that has many very similar pages all in one directory. The page templates are called page-1.html, page-2.html, ... page-n.html. I am using two submit buttons on each of the pages; one for 'Next' and one for 'Previous' so that I catch changes to the form elements in each direction. I use a python script as index_html, and hit it on each submit (form action=.), and then redirect to the appropriate page, whether that page is current_page++ or current_page--. I also stuff all form variables into SESSION in the index_html python script. What I am wondering though, is how to display the 'page' portion of the address - right now it always just displays as http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/ I would like it to display http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, etc. The pages are all accessible directly by those names, but by always going to index_html and returning the page via return container[next_page](context, request) I never see this part in the URL. Thanks for any suggestions. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on URL styling
Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: [Zope] question on URL styling I am making a survey that has many very similar pages all in one directory. The page templates are called page-1.html, page-2.html, ... page-n.html. I am using two submit buttons on each of the pages; one for 'Next' and one for 'Previous' so that I catch changes to the form elements in each direction. I use a python script as index_html, and hit it on each submit (form action=.), and then redirect to the appropriate page, whether that page is current_page++ or current_page--. I also stuff all form variables into SESSION in the index_html python script. What I am wondering though, is how to display the 'page' portion of the address - right now it always just displays as http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/ I would like it to display http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, etc. The pages are all accessible directly by those names, but by always going to index_html and returning the page via return container[next_page](context, request) I never see this part in the URL. One possible work-around is to rename your python script, reformat your urls and use traverse_subpath to access the page to be displayed. eg. if you name your script 'displayPage', then you can have a url like: http://myzopesite/workingdirectory/displayPage/page-1.html the displayPage script will be invoked and it can then access REQUEST['traverse_subpath'] (which in the above case will contain 'page-1.html'). hth Jonathan Erik, I find your use case a bit strange. Why would your users need to see different URLs? Doesnt that pollute their browser's history list - and do you want them clicking some Page-nn from history? I like the idea of using a python script as index_html and using it as a router. Instead of a redirect I use return someZpt(context, request) David ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on URL styling
David H wrote: Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: [Zope] question on URL styling I am making a survey that has many very similar pages all in one directory. The page templates are called page-1.html, page-2.html, ... page-n.html. I am using two submit buttons on each of the pages; one for 'Next' and one for 'Previous' so that I catch changes to the form elements in each direction. I use a python script as index_html, and hit it on each submit (form action=.), and then redirect to the appropriate page, whether that page is current_page++ or current_page--. I also stuff all form variables into SESSION in the index_html python script. What I am wondering though, is how to display the 'page' portion of the address - right now it always just displays as http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/ I would like it to display http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, etc. The pages are all accessible directly by those names, but by always going to index_html and returning the page via return container[next_page](context, request) I never see this part in the URL. One possible work-around is to rename your python script, reformat your urls and use traverse_subpath to access the page to be displayed. eg. if you name your script 'displayPage', then you can have a url like: http://myzopesite/workingdirectory/displayPage/page-1.html the displayPage script will be invoked and it can then access REQUEST['traverse_subpath'] (which in the above case will contain 'page-1.html'). hth Jonathan Erik, I find your use case a bit strange. Why would your users need to see different URLs? Doesnt that pollute their browser's history list - and do you want them clicking some Page-nn from history? I'm not too sure I understand the pollution reference...do you mean that it would make sense that an end user would only ever bookmark to the start of the survey, and not half way through? I guess it's more for me and the designers then for end users. After the user goes through the 30+ pages of survey questions, they are presented with a summary page which basically shows all the 'Q's and 'A's and their contact info on one big page Hi, JOE from CALGARY, you told us that your favourite colour is GREEN, your favourite fruit is a BANANA ... etc.. There are links beside each answer so that they can go back and change that answer before submitting the survey if they wish. So, they should have access to each and every page by name and they can jump around within the survey. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on URL styling
Erik Myllymaki wrote: David H wrote: Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: [Zope] question on URL styling I am making a survey that has many very similar pages all in one directory. The page templates are called page-1.html, page-2.html, ... page-n.html. I am using two submit buttons on each of the pages; one for 'Next' and one for 'Previous' so that I catch changes to the form elements in each direction. I use a python script as index_html, and hit it on each submit (form action=.), and then redirect to the appropriate page, whether that page is current_page++ or current_page--. I also stuff all form variables into SESSION in the index_html python script. What I am wondering though, is how to display the 'page' portion of the address - right now it always just displays as http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/ I would like it to display http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, etc. The pages are all accessible directly by those names, but by always going to index_html and returning the page via return container[next_page](context, request) I never see this part in the URL. One possible work-around is to rename your python script, reformat your urls and use traverse_subpath to access the page to be displayed. eg. if you name your script 'displayPage', then you can have a url like: http://myzopesite/workingdirectory/displayPage/page-1.html the displayPage script will be invoked and it can then access REQUEST['traverse_subpath'] (which in the above case will contain 'page-1.html'). hth Jonathan Erik, I find your use case a bit strange. Why would your users need to see different URLs? Doesnt that pollute their browser's history list - and do you want them clicking some Page-nn from history? I'm not too sure I understand the pollution reference...do you mean that it would make sense that an end user would only ever bookmark to the start of the survey, and not half way through? I guess it's more for me and the designers then for end users. After the user goes through the 30+ pages of survey questions, they are presented with a summary page which basically shows all the 'Q's and 'A's and their contact info on one big page Hi, JOE from CALGARY, you told us that your favourite colour is GREEN, your favourite fruit is a BANANA ... etc.. There are links beside each answer so that they can go back and change that answer before submitting the survey if they wish. So, they should have access to each and every page by name and they can jump around within the survey. If you have users that will fill out 30+ pages of any survey I want your mailing list. :-) Also, you might try a page legend? I use stuff like that for large charts of accounts (no one wants to click click click to get to even the middle of a page list) I hope your project does well! All best erik, David ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on URL styling
David H wrote: Erik Myllymaki wrote: David H wrote: Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: [Zope] question on URL styling I am making a survey that has many very similar pages all in one directory. The page templates are called page-1.html, page-2.html, ... page-n.html. I am using two submit buttons on each of the pages; one for 'Next' and one for 'Previous' so that I catch changes to the form elements in each direction. I use a python script as index_html, and hit it on each submit (form action=.), and then redirect to the appropriate page, whether that page is current_page++ or current_page--. I also stuff all form variables into SESSION in the index_html python script. What I am wondering though, is how to display the 'page' portion of the address - right now it always just displays as http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/ I would like it to display http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, http://myzopesite.com/workingdirectory/page-1.html, etc. The pages are all accessible directly by those names, but by always going to index_html and returning the page via return container[next_page](context, request) I never see this part in the URL. One possible work-around is to rename your python script, reformat your urls and use traverse_subpath to access the page to be displayed. eg. if you name your script 'displayPage', then you can have a url like: http://myzopesite/workingdirectory/displayPage/page-1.html the displayPage script will be invoked and it can then access REQUEST['traverse_subpath'] (which in the above case will contain 'page-1.html'). hth Jonathan Erik, I find your use case a bit strange. Why would your users need to see different URLs? Doesnt that pollute their browser's history list - and do you want them clicking some Page-nn from history? I'm not too sure I understand the pollution reference...do you mean that it would make sense that an end user would only ever bookmark to the start of the survey, and not half way through? I guess it's more for me and the designers then for end users. After the user goes through the 30+ pages of survey questions, they are presented with a summary page which basically shows all the 'Q's and 'A's and their contact info on one big page Hi, JOE from CALGARY, you told us that your favourite colour is GREEN, your favourite fruit is a BANANA ... etc.. There are links beside each answer so that they can go back and change that answer before submitting the survey if they wish. So, they should have access to each and every page by name and they can jump around within the survey. If you have users that will fill out 30+ pages of any survey I want your mailing list. :-) we'll call them a captive audience :) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question of ZPL etiquette
Hi Andreas. I had interpreted that the header information was satisfying the requirement to identify changes for 5. If any files are modified, you must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change. Since I am under version control and date is in $Id$, I was just going to indicate a statement Modified ZPL 2.1(5) code under my $Id$ then use my own header with reference to the LICENSE.txt Would you say this is a reasonable way to go? Many thanks. Regards, David Andreas Jung wrote: --On 8. August 2006 00:53:09 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I am trying to get a better sense of how others are dealing with ZPL headers in code from original authors once changes are made. For example if a package is ZPL copyright somebody, I typically see a header at the top of most files as well as the LICENSE.txt in the package itself. When changes are made however, it is typical see headers replaced with the header of the author(s) who have made changes and date. A second license will now apply to the modified package with the ZPL license of the original code left to acknowledge authors and copyright of the original product/package. Is that a fair assessment? Is that generally acceptable? Many thanks. The ZPL does not tell what to put into header of your files. My source basically contains a reference to some LICENSE file in the root directoy. This file contains the main license (e.g. ZPL) but it also mentions all code parts that are published under a different license. So you have everything in one place and you don't have to modify all headers as soon as something changes with your licenses. -aj ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question of ZPL etiquette
Hi. I am trying to get a better sense of how others are dealing with ZPL headers in code from original authors once changes are made. For example if a package is ZPL copyright somebody, I typically see a header at the top of most files as well as the LICENSE.txt in the package itself. When changes are made however, it is typical see headers replaced with the header of the author(s) who have made changes and date. A second license will now apply to the modified package with the ZPL license of the original code left to acknowledge authors and copyright of the original product/package. Is that a fair assessment? Is that generally acceptable? Many thanks. Regards, David ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question of ZPL etiquette
--On 8. August 2006 00:53:09 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I am trying to get a better sense of how others are dealing with ZPL headers in code from original authors once changes are made. For example if a package is ZPL copyright somebody, I typically see a header at the top of most files as well as the LICENSE.txt in the package itself. When changes are made however, it is typical see headers replaced with the header of the author(s) who have made changes and date. A second license will now apply to the modified package with the ZPL license of the original code left to acknowledge authors and copyright of the original product/package. Is that a fair assessment? Is that generally acceptable? Many thanks. The ZPL does not tell what to put into header of your files. My source basically contains a reference to some LICENSE file in the root directoy. This file contains the main license (e.g. ZPL) but it also mentions all code parts that are published under a different license. So you have everything in one place and you don't have to modify all headers as soon as something changes with your licenses. -aj pgpS6u9fUxG0X.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
Aloha, Thanks all for the suggestions...for the time being I can do what I need by sending to only one address. It was trying to test the send by sending to multiple addresses (mine and others') that brought this out... I will try a list next time I need multiple addresses in the To: field. thanks, John S. Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:49 PM Subject: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost Aloha, The Zope (2.7.5) API docs for MailHost show this for simple_send: -- simple_send(self, mto, mfrom, subject, body): Sends a message. Only To:, From: and Subject: headers can be set. The arguments are: mto A commaseparated string or list of recipient(s) of the message. mfrom The address of the message sender. subject The subject of the message. body The body of the message. -- So it reads like it can handle more than one To: address, something like this comma-separated string: '[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ...but when I do this the message only gets sent to the first address in the list. I have never used simple_send..., but have you tried putting the 'To' addresses in a list format, eg. ['addr1', 'addr2', ...]? - if you already have a comma-separated string you can easily pass this as a list with something like: string.split(addressString, ','). Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design -- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://eco-living.net ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
--On 18. Juli 2006 21:23:59 -1000 John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aloha, Thanks all for the suggestions...for the time being I can do what I need by sending to only one address. It was trying to test the send by sending to multiple addresses (mine and others') that brought this out... I will try a list next time I need multiple addresses in the To: field. Why don't you use the send() method which works perfectly fine with multiple recipient addresses??? -aj pgpd01yeD4Zfo.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
Aloha, I did try send() - it seems one must know something about RFC822 message formatting to use it...? I know nothing about that, and could not quickly find any clear and concise howtos or tutorials, just verbose and confusing specs and mailing list posts and so on. I tried using send() with the same plain text body and from and to strings I was using for simple_send()...in case it might work... When the mail arrived, some of the header content was in the body and not in the header. It did arrive at all addresses in the To: field, I will admit... :-) But the header was broken somehow, I assume because I didn't know how to format it correctly. That was all the time I had to mess with it for now. thanks, John S. Andreas Jung wrote: --On 18. Juli 2006 21:23:59 -1000 John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aloha, Thanks all for the suggestions...for the time being I can do what I need by sending to only one address. It was trying to test the send by sending to multiple addresses (mine and others') that brought this out... I will try a list next time I need multiple addresses in the To: field. Why don't you use the send() method which works perfectly fine with multiple recipient addresses??? -aj ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design -- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://eco-living.net ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
--On 18. Juli 2006 21:55:36 -1000 John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aloha, I did try send() - it seems one must know something about RFC822 message formatting to use it...? I know nothing about that, and could not quickly find any clear and concise howtos or tutorials, just verbose and confusing specs and mailing list posts and so on. Nonsense. The Python 'email' module is perfectly suited and documented (with examples). We use the 'email' module in various places for generating rfc822 compliant emails that are send through MailHost.send(). -aj pgpTYhJi1eQ5c.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 18. Juli 2006 21:55:36 -1000 John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aloha, I did try send() - it seems one must know something about RFC822 message formatting to use it...? I know nothing about that, and could not quickly find any clear and concise howtos or tutorials, just verbose and confusing specs and mailing list posts and so on. Nonsense. The Python 'email' module is perfectly suited and documented (with examples). We use the 'email' module in various places for generating rfc822 compliant emails that are send through MailHost.send(). So you are writing a Product to enable it to python scripting? .-)) Well, its so easy... some of the beginners should be able to do it. from AccessControl import allow_module, allow_class, allow_type from formatter import BlockFormatter from email.MIMEText import MIMEText from email.MIMEMultipart import MIMEMultipart from email.MIMEBase import MIMEBase from email.Header import Header from MailCrypt import signmail from email.Encoders import encode_base64 allow_class(BlockFormatter) allow_class(MIMEBase) allow_class(MIMEText) allow_class(MIMEMultipart) allow_class(Header) allow_class(signmail) allow_class(encode_base64) would roughly do it. Pack it nicely, add some ZMI howtos and be ready :-) Regards Tino Wildenhain ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
On 7/17/06, John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Zope (2.7.5) API docs for MailHost show this for simple_send:
--
simple_send(self, mto, mfrom, subject, body):
Sends a message. Only To:, From: and Subject: headers can be set.
The arguments are:
mto
A commaseparated string or list of recipient(s) of the message.
mfrom
The address of the message sender.
subject
The subject of the message.
body
The body of the message.
--
a bit digging in the code on one of my installations (2.7.4) revealed,
that Zope more or less directly invokes SMTP.sendmail from smtplib
of python. quote from the docs: a list of RFC 822 to-address strings
(a bare string will be treated as a list with 1 address)
this seems a small bug in zope (either implementation or
documentation). for a fix, make the list yourself:
yourstring.split(',')
this _could_ break the RFC-conformity of the to-header of the message,
because simple_send builds the body of the message like this:
body=From: %s\nTo: %s\nSubject: %s\n\n%s \
% (mfrom, mto, subject, body)
which would result in
To: ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]','[EMAIL PROTECTED]','[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
which makes the message unroutable.
I suggest this code for MailBase.simple_send() (Malhost.py):
import types # this belongs into the import section
[.. snip, in simple_send: ..]
def simple_send(self, mto, mfrom, subject, body):
if type(mto)==types.ListType:
body = From: %s\nTo: %s\nSubject: %s\n\n%s \
% (mfrom, ','.join(mto), subject, body)
else:
body = From: %s\nTo: %s\nSubject: %s\n\n%s \
% (mfrom, mto, subject, body)
self._send(mfrom, mto, body)
and change the documentation to accept lists and strings,
because parsing a comma-separated list of true rfc-822
addresses is far more complicarted than somestring.split(',')
--knitti
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Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
i'd like to mention that I didn't test that code --knitti ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
Put this in the bugtracker...otherwise it will be lost.
-aj
--On 17. Juli 2006 11:29:07 +0200 knitti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/17/06, John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Zope (2.7.5) API docs for MailHost show this for simple_send:
--
simple_send(self, mto, mfrom, subject, body):
Sends a message. Only To:, From: and Subject: headers can be set.
The arguments are:
mto
A commaseparated string or list of recipient(s) of the message.
mfrom
The address of the message sender.
subject
The subject of the message.
body
The body of the message.
--
a bit digging in the code on one of my installations (2.7.4) revealed,
that Zope more or less directly invokes SMTP.sendmail from smtplib
of python. quote from the docs: a list of RFC 822 to-address strings
(a bare string will be treated as a list with 1 address)
this seems a small bug in zope (either implementation or
documentation). for a fix, make the list yourself:
yourstring.split(',')
this _could_ break the RFC-conformity of the to-header of the message,
because simple_send builds the body of the message like this:
body=From: %s\nTo: %s\nSubject: %s\n\n%s \
% (mfrom, mto, subject, body)
which would result in
To: ['[EMAIL PROTECTED]','[EMAIL PROTECTED]','[EMAIL PROTECTED]']
which makes the message unroutable.
I suggest this code for MailBase.simple_send() (Malhost.py):
import types # this belongs into the import section
[.. snip, in simple_send: ..]
def simple_send(self, mto, mfrom, subject, body):
if type(mto)==types.ListType:
body = From: %s\nTo: %s\nSubject: %s\n\n%s \
% (mfrom, ','.join(mto), subject, body)
else:
body = From: %s\nTo: %s\nSubject: %s\n\n%s \
% (mfrom, mto, subject, body)
self._send(mfrom, mto, body)
and change the documentation to accept lists and strings,
because parsing a comma-separated list of true rfc-822
addresses is far more complicarted than somestring.split(',')
--knitti
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Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
On 7/17/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put this in the bugtracker...otherwise it will be lost. will do on one of the next days... --knitti ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
- Original Message - From: John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:49 PM Subject: [Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost Aloha, The Zope (2.7.5) API docs for MailHost show this for simple_send: -- simple_send(self, mto, mfrom, subject, body): Sends a message. Only To:, From: and Subject: headers can be set. The arguments are: mto A commaseparated string or list of recipient(s) of the message. mfrom The address of the message sender. subject The subject of the message. body The body of the message. -- So it reads like it can handle more than one To: address, something like this comma-separated string: '[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ...but when I do this the message only gets sent to the first address in the list. I have never used simple_send..., but have you tried putting the 'To' addresses in a list format, eg. ['addr1', 'addr2', ...]? - if you already have a comma-separated string you can easily pass this as a list with something like: string.split(addressString, ','). Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question on simple_send in MailHost
Aloha, The Zope (2.7.5) API docs for MailHost show this for simple_send: -- simple_send(self, mto, mfrom, subject, body): Sends a message. Only To:, From: and Subject: headers can be set. The arguments are: mto A commaseparated string or list of recipient(s) of the message. mfrom The address of the message sender. subject The subject of the message. body The body of the message. -- So it reads like it can handle more than one To: address, something like this comma-separated string: '[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ...but when I do this the message only gets sent to the first address in the list. Is this a mistake in the docs - do I need to use send() to send to multiple addresses? Or is there something wrong with my comma-separated string of recipients? Or is there a third possibility I haven't even considered... :-) thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design -- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://eco-living.net ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Python Generators and Zope question
All,
I have a site that uses
CookieCrumbler for user login. I need to track how many incorrectlogin
attempts a user makes. I am trying to use a python generator to do this but it
makes Zope hang when I try to do an invalid login (eg. no password or incorrect
password). Here's a snippet:
def
make_counter(x): while
1: yield
x x = x +
1
counter =
make_counter(1)
security.declarePublic('getUnauthorizedURL') def
getUnauthorizedURL(self):
''' Redirects to the login
page.
''' req =
self.REQUEST resp =
req['RESPONSE'] attempt =
getattr(req, '_cookie_auth',
ATTEMPT_NONE) if attempt ==
ATTEMPT_NONE:
# An anonymous user was denied access to
something.
page_id =
self.auto_login_page
retry = '' elif attempt ==
ATTEMPT_LOGIN:
# The login attempt failed. Try
again.
page_id =
self.auto_login_page
#retry =
'1' retry
= counter.next()
I added the make_counter
function. It seems the culprit is the retry = counter.next() bit. I tried doing
this same thing with the make_counter function in an External method and then
calling it from a python script like so:
counter =
context.make_counter(1)
return
counter.next()
In that case, an unauthorized
exception is raised complaining about next. I can however, just return the
counter which gives me generator object at 0xb48d56cc. Am I calling the
next method incorrectly or is there something else I'm missing or being dumb
about?
Thanks,
Tom
Palermo
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Re: [Zope] Python Generators and Zope question
Palermo, Tom wrote at 2006-4-20 10:52 -0400: I have a site that uses CookieCrumbler for user login. I need to track how many incorrect login attempts a user makes. I am trying to use a python generator to do this but it makes Zope hang when I try to do an invalid login (eg. no password or incorrect password). Here's a snippet: I fear you are on the wrong way. You must store the number of incorrect login attempts with the user. For this, you should use a standard integer (and not a generator). -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Zope and security
Cyrille Bonnet wrote at 2006-3-30 14:43 +1200: ... I did find Dieter Mauer's DigestAuth product: http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/#DigestAuth It looks good. I have used other produts from Dieter before and was very pleased with the quality of his code. Now, have other people used it? Does it work with WebDAV? It should work with WebDAV, provided the WebDAV client supports HTTP Digest Authentication. How secure is it (I am no security/encryption expert)? The corresponding RFC (RFC 2617) explains in detail how secure the basic mechanism is. My DigestAuth DigestAuthCrumber adds a bit of insecurity: * the passwords must be stored (inside Zope (!) not in the request) in plain text. This could be improved a bit, either by - using two way encryption -- but Zope must be able to get the plain text password back. - fixing the domain and using storing the MD5 hash of username, password and domain instead of the plain text password. Other authentication schemes would then need to be changed -- to use the same MD5 hash. Also, if it is good, why is not part of default Zope?? There are two sides of an answer: the Zope developpers/maintainers side and my side. Adding even a good package to the core means a (rather) long term commitment to support and maintain this package. When you follow comp.lang.python (or the corresponding mailing list), you see how reluctant the Python developpers are to include additional packages into the Python core -- to avoid these responsibilities. The Zope maintainers are even stricter: they look what they can get rid of rather than what they can include On my side: developping for the Zope core imposes much more overhead than developping independently: I would have to make a proposal, follow (partially stupid) style guides, add more tests (than necessary to convince me that the quality is sufficient)... Thus, I am reluctant to develop for the Zope core. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Zope and security
Cyrille Bonnet wrote: Hi there, I have been telling all my clients about how great Zope is for security: fine-grained permissions, security framework, roles, etc. Now, one of my clients has a security expert who took a close look at how Zope authenticates users. The results were not good. The main problem is that Zope stores the username and password in a cookie in clear text (base64 encoded). *Zope* don't do that. It's the (infamous) CookieCrumbler products that is responsible for this horror. Even though it only happens in their internal network, my client wasn't too happy, because it makes them vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack. I know, the odds of that happening are low, but storing the username and password in clear text is clearly not best practice. That's an understatement. So, my question is: is there a way to secure Zope authentication? yes : use https. -- bruno desthuilliers développeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.modulix.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Zope and security
+---[ bruno desthuilliers ]-- | Cyrille Bonnet wrote: | Hi there, | | I have been telling all my clients about how great Zope is for security: | fine-grained permissions, security framework, roles, etc. | | Now, one of my clients has a security expert who took a close look at | how Zope authenticates users. The results were not good. | | The main problem is that Zope stores the username and password in a | cookie in clear text (base64 encoded). | | *Zope* don't do that. It's the (infamous) CookieCrumbler products that | is responsible for this horror. Lots of UserFolders do this by default for compatibility reasons. CookieCrumbler is just following a long tradition. It's EXACTLY the same as what you get with Basic Auth. exUserFolder has a mode uses a random hash for cookies (I'm sure other UserFolders have this option as well). But as others have said, if you're posting to a form and not using https, what's the point. -- Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about Zope and security
Hi there, I have been telling all my clients about how great Zope is for security: fine-grained permissions, security framework, roles, etc. Now, one of my clients has a security expert who took a close look at how Zope authenticates users. The results were not good. The main problem is that Zope stores the username and password in a cookie in clear text (base64 encoded). Even though it only happens in their internal network, my client wasn't too happy, because it makes them vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack. I know, the odds of that happening are low, but storing the username and password in clear text is clearly not best practice. So, my question is: is there a way to secure Zope authentication? I did find Dieter Mauer's DigestAuth product: http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/#DigestAuth It looks good. I have used other produts from Dieter before and was very pleased with the quality of his code. Now, have other people used it? Does it work with WebDAV? How secure is it (I am no security/encryption expert)? Also, if it is good, why is not part of default Zope?? Finally, a little side story: you know how in Windows XP, you can connect a drive to a WebDAV server? Well, if you install Service Pack 2, you can't use that feature to connect to Zope anymore. Interestingly enough, it seems that it is precisely because of that authentication vlunerability: Win XP SP2 refuses to connect to a WebDAV that doesn't at least encode the username/password in Digest authentication... Any comment or pointers are very welcome. Cyrille ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Zope and security
Cyrille Bonnet wrote: The main problem is that Zope stores the username and password in a cookie in clear text (base64 encoded). Even though it only happens in their internal network, my client wasn't too happy, because it makes them vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack. I know, the odds of that happening are low, but storing the username and password in clear text is clearly not best practice. So, my question is: is there a way to secure Zope authentication? Stock Zope doesn't use cookie authentication, so you're actually talking about an alternate user folder product (which you don't specify and I don't know that many of them, so I can't really comment much -- except that SimpleUserFolder with CookieCrumbler will indeed put you in this situation (or did the last time I checked)). The fact that Zope stores passwords as plain text is not the issue if you're worried about man-in-the-middle attacks, though. The problem there is that you are passing passwords plain text in the request, and there is almost no way around that unless you run an SSL (HTTPS) server. Which you should if you want real security. Encrypting your password database without moving your server login to HTTPS is only going to create inconvenience without improved security (you can no longer send password reminders, for example) -- it's a false sense of security. So, IMHO, secure the server, then worry about password databases. Cheers, Terry ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Zope and security
Cyrille Bonnet wrote: Hi there, I have been telling all my clients about how great Zope is for security: fine-grained permissions, security framework, roles, etc. Now, one of my clients has a security expert who took a close look at how Zope authenticates users. The results were not good. The main problem is that Zope stores the username and password in a cookie in clear text (base64 encoded). No, zope does not do that. There are userfolders and extensions (like cookie crumbler) which do that. You can have any mechanism you want. Even though it only happens in their internal network, my client wasn't too happy, because it makes them vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack. So does it? With ssl layer? I know, the odds of that happening are low, but storing the username and password in clear text is clearly not best practice. Sure you have to take care - but enabling some kind of digest auth (below) isnt that hard - otoh, your password will be transfered over the net in clear text in many cases - if you have a form based login you will for sure transfer clear text username and password. You could try javascript tricks to put digest like authentication in a form based login, but thats not so easy and bullet proof. And if you stress it too much you have great security - but no users :-) So if you are security concerned, just put an ssl-layer on top of zope. Usually via apache mod_ssl, mod_proxy and mod_rewrite. You can also use pound or squid. So, my question is: is there a way to secure Zope authentication? I did find Dieter Mauer's DigestAuth product: http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/#DigestAuth Digest out - so your users browser support it, is a solution and better then basic-auth. However you dont have a nice login form and you cant logout. It looks good. I have used other produts from Dieter before and was very pleased with the quality of his code. Now, have other people used it? Does it work with WebDAV? How secure is it (I am no security/encryption expert)? WebDAV is just HTTP, so all you apply to it holds true for WebDAV as well - beside the fact you cant have login forms. So basic auth or digest auth can be used and can be secured via ssl. Also, if it is good, why is not part of default Zope?? Cookie auth isnt part of default zope either. Finally, a little side story: you know how in Windows XP, you can connect a drive to a WebDAV server? Well, if you install Service Pack 2, you can't use that feature to connect to Zope anymore. Interestingly enough, it seems that it is precisely because of that authentication vlunerability: Win XP SP2 refuses to connect to a WebDAV that doesn't at least encode the username/password in Digest authentication... Yes, MS never gets it right with official standards. You can patch around to make it work with the windows of the day, but you might need to change it next time again. However you can use 3rd party products like WebDrive/TeamDrive which have been reported to work flawlessy since the early days of zopes webdav support. Kind regards Tino ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Zope and security
On 3/30/06, Cyrille Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem is that Zope stores the username and password in a cookie in clear text (base64 encoded). As mentioned before, Zope doesn't, but CookieCrumbler (and hence Plone) does. And, the security expert is not much of a security expert at all, if he doesn't know this: You will only get real web security with SSL. Even though it only happens in their internal network, my client wasn't too happy, because it makes them vulnerable to a man-in-the-middle attack. All plain http is vulnerable to that, which is why If you care about security, you need to use https. So, my question is: is there a way to secure Zope authentication? Yup. See above. :) Also, if it is good, why is not part of default Zope?? Good question. :-) However, today you want to use PAS. The new fancy modular user folder for Zope. I don't know if it works with Plone yet, though. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question: upload files to folder AND database
hello, is it possible to upload files in plone, using a form (like the form in plonelocalfolderNG) AND sending a url to that file + additional information to a database using popy connection? I can upload files using plonelocalfolderNG, but I can't send any more info with it. + I need to sort them, so I need some more info (like category, author, ...) in a database to perform my sql on. also, I want to let users upload using a form, not with the add tab button. I tried watching the plonelocalfolderNG code, and making my own, but I can't get it to work. thanx in advance, Olivier ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question: upload files to folder AND database
+---[ Olivier Wambacq ]-- | hello, | | is it possible to upload files in plone, using a form (like the form in | plonelocalfolderNG) AND sending a url to that file + additional information | to a database using popy connection? | | I can upload files using plonelocalfolderNG, but I can't send any more info | with it. + I need to sort them, so I need some more info (like category, | author, ...) in a database to perform my sql on. | | also, I want to let users upload using a form, not with the add tab button. | | I tried watching the plonelocalfolderNG code, and making my own, but I can't | get it to work. Post to a python script that first sends it to your db storage script, and then on to plonelocalfolderNG -- Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows
ok will do. Just that alot of people have apache experience on this list and I've got some really good help from it.On 12/21/05, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm sure there's an Apache list you could be asking these questions, this has nothing to do with Zope.#apache on irc.freenode.net is where I'd go ;-)Chrismichael nt milne wrote: Hi Ok so I looked at this stuff but can't find anything listed for point 3. Also I had to set Plone to listen on 8080 within its config file and now get Apache for my Plone domains. However they won't re-direct to the right site within the Plone installation. I've achieved this on Unix with the virtual host stuff below.1. Find the httpd.conf file (usually you will find it in a foldercalled conf, config or something along those lines)2. Inside the httpd.conf file uncomment the line *LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so* (remove the pound '#' sign fromin front of the line)3. Also find the line *ClearModuleList* is uncommented then find andmake sure that the line *AddModule mod_rewrite.c* is not commented out.NameVirtualHost ip:80VirtualHost ip:80ServerName nameRewriteEngine OnRewriteRule ^/(.*) http://ip:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/name:80/site/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P]/VirtualHost On 12/19/05, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ok, i simply downloaded the Apache 2.0.55 release for Windoes from Apache.Thre RewriteEngine is set to on in the httpd.conf. God knows why themodule wouldn't be available in the distribution. Do you know any documentation on how to install on module at all? The unix version comeswith it by default I think. **On 12/19/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Likely the rewrite module isn't loaded (check the correspondingLoadModulestatements of your configuration).-aj --On 19. Dezember 2005 16:33:59 + michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Does RewriteEngine work on Apache for Windows 2.0.5 ?I'm getting the following..Syntax error on line 960 of C:/Program Files/ApacheGroup/Apache2/conf/httpd.con f:Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by amodule notincluded in the server configurationNote the errors or messages above, and press the ESC key to exit.22...NameVirtualHost ip:80VirtualHost ip:80ServerName name RewriteEngine OnRewriteRule ^/(.*)http://ip:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/name:80/site/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P] /VirtualHost ___ Zope maillist-Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding!** (Related lists -http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )--Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting- http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows
I'm sure there's an Apache list you could be asking these questions, this has nothing to do with Zope. #apache on irc.freenode.net is where I'd go ;-) Chris michael nt milne wrote: Hi Ok so I looked at this stuff but can't find anything listed for point 3. Also I had to set Plone to listen on 8080 within its config file and now get Apache for my Plone domains. However they won't re-direct to the right site within the Plone installation. I've achieved this on Unix with the virtual host stuff below. 1. Find the httpd.conf file (usually you will find it in a folder called conf, config or something along those lines) 2. Inside the httpd.conf file uncomment the line *LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so* (remove the pound '#' sign from in front of the line) 3. Also find the line *ClearModuleList* is uncommented then find and make sure that the line *AddModule mod_rewrite.c* is not commented out. NameVirtualHost ip:80 VirtualHost ip:80 ServerName name RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://ip:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/name:80/site/Virt ualHostRoot/$1 [L,P] /VirtualHost On 12/19/05, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, i simply downloaded the Apache 2.0.55 release for Windoes from Apache. Thre RewriteEngine is set to on in the httpd.conf. God knows why the module wouldn't be available in the distribution. Do you know any documentation on how to install on module at all? The unix version comes with it by default I think. ** On 12/19/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likely the rewrite module isn't loaded (check the corresponding LoadModule statements of your configuration). -aj --On 19. Dezember 2005 16:33:59 + michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does RewriteEngine work on Apache for Windows 2.0.5 ? I'm getting the following.. Syntax error on line 960 of C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/conf/httpd.con f: Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration Note the errors or messages above, and press the ESC key to exit. 22... NameVirtualHost ip:80 VirtualHost ip:80 ServerName name RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://ip:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/name:80/site/Virt ualHostRoot/$1 [L,P] /VirtualHost ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows
On 19 Dec 2005, at 16:33, michael nt milne wrote: Does RewriteEngine work on Apache for Windows 2.0.5 ? I'm getting the following.. Syntax error on line 960 of C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/ conf/httpd.con f: Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration Note the errors or messages above, and press the ESC key to exit. 22... Of course it does. I would assume you don't have it (mod_rewrite) configured for loading or it's simply not in your installation. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows
Likely the rewrite module isn't loaded (check the corresponding LoadModule statements of your configuration). -aj --On 19. Dezember 2005 16:33:59 + michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does RewriteEngine work on Apache for Windows 2.0.5 ? I'm getting the following.. Syntax error on line 960 of C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/conf/httpd.con f: Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration Note the errors or messages above, and press the ESC key to exit. 22... NameVirtualHost ip:80 VirtualHost ip:80 ServerName name RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://ip:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/name:80/site/Virt ualHostRoot/$1 [L,P] /VirtualHost pgpa7v5VYOU9t.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows
ok, i simply downloaded the Apache 2.0.55 release for Windoes from Apache. Thre RewriteEngine is set to on in the httpd.conf. God knows why the module wouldn't be available in the distribution. Do you know any documentation on how to install on module at all? The unix version comes with it by default I think. On 12/19/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likely the rewrite module isn't loaded (check the corresponding LoadModulestatements of your configuration).-aj--On 19. Dezember 2005 16:33:59 + michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does RewriteEngine work on Apache for Windows 2.0.5 ? I'm getting the following.. Syntax error on line 960 of C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/conf/httpd.con f: Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration Note the errors or messages above, and press the ESC key to exit.22... NameVirtualHost ip:80 VirtualHost ip:80 ServerName name RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://ip:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/name:80/site/Virt ualHostRoot/$1 [L,P] /VirtualHost ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question for anyone using apache on windows
HiOk so I looked at this stuff but can't find anything listed for point 3. Also I had to set Plone to listen on 8080 within its config file and now get Apache for my Plone domains. However they won't re-direct to the right site within the Plone installation. I've achieved this on Unix with the virtual host stuff below. Find the httpd.conf file (usually you will find it in a folder called conf, config or something along those lines)Inside the httpd.conf file uncomment the line LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so (remove the pound '#' sign from in front of the line)Also find the line ClearModuleList is uncommented then find and make sure that the line AddModule mod_rewrite.c is not commented out. NameVirtualHost ip:80 VirtualHost ip:80 ServerName name RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://ip:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/name:80/site/Virt ualHostRoot/$1 [L,P] /VirtualHostOn 12/19/05, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, i simply downloaded the Apache 2.0.55 release for Windoes from Apache. Thre RewriteEngine is set to on in the httpd.conf. God knows why the module wouldn't be available in the distribution. Do you know any documentation on how to install on module at all? The unix version comes with it by default I think. On 12/19/05, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likely the rewrite module isn't loaded (check the corresponding LoadModulestatements of your configuration).-aj--On 19. Dezember 2005 16:33:59 + michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does RewriteEngine work on Apache for Windows 2.0.5 ? I'm getting the following.. Syntax error on line 960 of C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/conf/httpd.con f: Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration Note the errors or messages above, and press the ESC key to exit.22... NameVirtualHost ip:80 VirtualHost ip:80 ServerName name RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://ip:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/name:80/site/Virt ualHostRoot/$1 [L,P] /VirtualHost ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Stepper
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Pardon my stupidity but is Chris Withers' Stepper the right thing for me...? yes What he said ;-) The call to sendAllUnsent() I would prefer if it was done asyncronously in case it takes several seconds. I could accomplish this by having a cron job calling it every 5 minutes but ldeally I don't want to rely on cron for this setup. Is Stepper the right thing for me? Stepper still needs cron. It is not a cron replacement. ...but it does make building a cron job that does stuff with Zope a whole lot easier, and covers all the edge cases you'd forget ;-) cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question about Stepper
Pardon my stupidity but is Chris Withers' Stepper the right thing for me...? I've got a message central that accepts and sends messages. The system has an in-part and and out-part that is quite separate. Then there's third party code that looks a bit like this: pseudocode def acceptIncomingMessage(self, message): # add to the queue self.getMCentral().storeMessage(message) # process all (should be only one) items off the queue self.getMCentral().sendAllUnsent() return cool /pseudocode The call to sendAllUnsent() I would prefer if it was done asyncronously in case it takes several seconds. I could accomplish this by having a cron job calling it every 5 minutes but ldeally I don't want to rely on cron for this setup. Is Stepper the right thing for me? -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about Stepper
On 29 Nov 2005, at 11:12, Peter Bengtsson wrote: Pardon my stupidity but is Chris Withers' Stepper the right thing for me...? yes The call to sendAllUnsent() I would prefer if it was done asyncronously in case it takes several seconds. I could accomplish this by having a cron job calling it every 5 minutes but ldeally I don't want to rely on cron for this setup. Is Stepper the right thing for me? Stepper still needs cron. It is not a cron replacement. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about Zope capabilities
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 10:56:34PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:49:47 -0800 Rich Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, the site is great for managing content via the database. However, as far as I can see pretty much all the content needs to fit into templates, with the result that there appears to be little room for setting up a more free-form looking page that can incorporate graphics in a freer, more visual way. Well, *ANY* system that generates a web page is going to have that problem. Yes, you *CAN* make it more free form, but freedom carries responsibility Yep. A quick-and-dirty solution would be to have some pages that are just Files with content type text/html. But then of course they're just static html and you are 100% responsible for the content of those pages. So you'd have to balance the maintenance cost against the work of creating a smarter solution. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about Zope capabilities
- Original Message - From: Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope@zope.org Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] question about Zope capabilities On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 10:56:34PM -0600, Terry Hancock wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:49:47 -0800 Rich Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, the site is great for managing content via the database. However, as far as I can see pretty much all the content needs to fit into templates, with the result that there appears to be little room for setting up a more free-form looking page that can incorporate graphics in a freer, more visual way. Well, *ANY* system that generates a web page is going to have that problem. Yes, you *CAN* make it more free form, but freedom carries responsibility Yep. A quick-and-dirty solution would be to have some pages that are just Files with content type text/html. But then of course they're just static html and you are 100% responsible for the content of those pages. So you'd have to balance the maintenance cost against the work of creating a smarter solution. A less quick and less dirty solution could be to create several templates (each with different layouts) and serve them up at random. Jonathan ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question about Zope capabilities
Hi, I'm brand new on this list and writing to get a bit of insight here. We had someone design a web site using Zope, and very pleased with it. That person is no longer with us and I'm not at all a savvy back-end person, let alone Zope-savvy. At this point, the site is great for managing content via the database. However, as far as I can see pretty much all the content needs to fit into templates, with the result that there appears to be little room for setting up a more free-form looking page that can incorporate graphics in a freer, more visual way. Sure, we can add images and any HTML we like, but they are confined to the areas designated by the templates. In other words, the site tends to look like a database-driven website - not unpleasing by any means, but I'm wondering if Zope lends itself to more creative looking pages that departs from the templated look. At zope.org there is a list of sites using Zope that I'll have a look at, but I'd be appreciative of any feedback. We are thinking of hiring someone with more graphics than back-end experience and I'd like to hear if anyone thinks Zope is adaptable to give someone plenty of creative expression. Thanks! Rich ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about Zope capabilities
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:49:47 -0800 Rich Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, the site is great for managing content via the database. However, as far as I can see pretty much all the content needs to fit into templates, with the result that there appears to be little room for setting up a more free-form looking page that can incorporate graphics in a freer, more visual way. Well, *ANY* system that generates a web page is going to have that problem. Yes, you *CAN* make it more free form, but freedom carries responsibility -- the code will be much more complicated. And of course, Humans are smart. Your readers will eventually figure out the trick no matter how smart your code is (that is, they will be able to predict its behavior, thus find it unsurprising, hence dull compared to pages designed by Humans). That's just life, really. Hand crafted is recognizeable, and machine generated is never going to be it. Sure, we can add images and any HTML we like, but they are confined to the areas designated by the templates. In other words, the site tends to look like a database-driven website - not unpleasing by any means, but I'm wondering if Zope lends itself to more creative looking pages that departs from the templated look. *However*, the layout of the page can itself be database driven (whether we are talking about an external RDBMS or the ZODB within Zope). It is entirely possible to design a page in which the structure itself varies according to the content. But, as I said above, this is more complicated. I have pulled background images from a randomly-ordered list, based on the date or time of viewing (this is much more scalable than picking randomly on each pull, because it means that ALL people viewing the page at the same time will need the SAME image, so it can be cached). I have written markup structured to build words out of images, based on the content of the words (an alternative to using special fonts, which is a bit more wasteful of bandwidth, but allows *any* kind of font). I have written Zope table-layouts that cascaded in a zigzag pattern down the page, distributing the content in an apparently out of square layout (actually it really is in squares, but they partially overlap). I wrote a table layout generator that makes clock patterns with 12 table cels arranged in a circle. And of course, you can always intersperse hand crafted pages with data-driven content pages, or combine both on the same page. -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about stopping acquisition in VHM sites?
Gary wrote: I don't know how the URL got out. But the web-bots are having so much fun with my website right now. :( They are indexing everything for the wrong virtual host. Maybe robot.txt will stop them. Ah yes, a rewrite rule in your front end server should fix this, robots.txt _should_ help but likely won't ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about stopping acquisition in VHM sites?
Gary wrote: How do I stop acquisition at the root of my website? If I have two websites in zope, and I set the virtual host mapping to www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA http://www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB http://www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB I don't want my users to get to SiteB from http://www.sitea.com/SiteB Why not? How would they find a URL like that? You can't do anything from the Zope side to stop this. An Apache rewrite rule maybe? You'll need ot be clever mind... http://www.sitea.com/somefolder/somesubfolder/SiteB/somesitebfolder/etc ...will still work. Best bet? Don't sweat it, onyl worry about it if it really proves to be a problem ,which it shouldn't be... cheers, Chris PS: There's always Zope 3 ;-) -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about stopping acquisition in VHM sites?
On 10/27/05, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: How do I stop acquisition at the root of my website? If I have two websites in zope, and I set the virtual host mapping to www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA http://www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB http://www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB I don't want my users to get to SiteB from http://www.sitea.com/SiteBWhy not? How would they find a URL like that? You can't do anything from the Zope side to stop this.An Apache rewrite rule maybe? You'll need ot be clever mind...http://www.sitea.com/somefolder/somesubfolder/SiteB/somesitebfolder/etc ...will still work.Best bet? Don't sweat it, onyl worry about it if it really proves to bea problem ,which it shouldn't be...cheers,ChrisPS: There's always Zope 3 ;-) Thanks Chris, I don't know how the URL got out. But the web-bots are having so much fun with my website right now. :( They are indexing everything for the wrong virtual host. Maybe robot.txt will stop them. -- Gary ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about stopping acquisition in VHM sites?
Gary wrote: On 10/27/05, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: How do I stop acquisition at the root of my website? If I have two websites in zope, and I set the virtual host mapping to www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA http://www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB http://www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB I don't want my users to get to SiteB from http://www.sitea.com/SiteB Why not? How would they find a URL like that? You can't do anything from the Zope side to stop this. An Apache rewrite rule maybe? You'll need ot be clever mind... http://www.sitea.com/somefolder/somesubfolder/SiteB/somesitebfolder/etc ...will still work. Best bet? Don't sweat it, onyl worry about it if it really proves to be a problem ,which it shouldn't be... cheers, Chris PS: There's always Zope 3 ;-) Thanks Chris, I don't know how the URL got out. But the web-bots are having so much fun with my website right now. :( They are indexing everything for the wrong virtual host. Maybe robot.txt will stop them. -- Gary Gary, Are these anonymous access sites? If not then where are your users defined? BTW, im curious - how does Zope 3 otherwise solve this? David ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about stopping acquisition in VHM sites?
On 10/27/05, David H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: On 10/27/05, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: How do I stop acquisition at the root of my website? If I have two websites in zope, and I set the virtual host mapping to www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA http://www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB http://www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB I don't want my users to get to SiteB from http://www.sitea.com/SiteB Why not? How would they find a URL like that? You can't do anything from the Zope side to stop this. An Apache rewrite rule maybe? You'll need ot be clever mind... http://www.sitea.com/somefolder/somesubfolder/SiteB/somesitebfolder/etc ...will still work. Best bet? Don't sweat it, onyl worry about it if it really proves to be a problem ,which it shouldn't be... cheers, Chris PS: There's always Zope 3 ;-) Thanks Chris, I don't know how the URL got out. But the web-bots are having so much fun with my website right now. :( They are indexing everything for the wrong virtual host. Maybe robot.txt will stop them. -- Gary Gary, Are these anonymous access sites? If not then where are your users defined? BTW, im curious - how does Zope 3 otherwise solve this? David Yes David, it's anonymous access. -- Gary ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about stopping acquisition in VHM sites?
Gary wrote: Hi, How do I stop acquisition at the root of my website? If I have two websites in zope, and I set the virtual host mapping to www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA http://www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB http://www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB I don't want my users to get to SiteB from http://www.sitea.com/SiteB I am using Zope 2.7 You can create in each site an empty Python script or something named like the other site(s). This is not the best solution in the world, since if you have more than a handful of sites, you get a combinatorial explosion. But, it will work. Perhaps someone who is bothered by this problem and has time will do some magic in VHM (or a new type of object) to stop such traversals. --jcc -- Building Websites with Plone http://plonebook.packtpub.com/ Enfold Systems, LLC http://www.enfoldsystems.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question about stopping acquisition in VHM sites?
Hi, How do I stop acquisition at the root of my website? If I have two websites in zope, and I set the virtual host mapping to www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB I don't want my users to get to SiteB from http://www.sitea.com/SiteB I am using Zope 2.7 Thanks, Gary ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question about stopping acquisition in VHM sites?
Hi, How do I stop acquisition at the root of my website? If I have two websites in zope, and I set the virtual host mapping to www.sitea.com/websites/SiteA www.siteb.com/websites/SiteB I don't want my users to get to SiteB from http://www.sitea.com/SiteB I am using Zope 2.7 Thanks, Gary ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question: What Workflow tool to choose?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 21. Oktober 2005 12:18:31 -0400 Robert Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been tasked with rapidly developing a demo for a proposed workflow application using Zope. I have plenty of CMF experience including customized workflows based on DCWorkflow, but I'm wondering what other workflows are actively supported and of production quality. In the past I've read blurbs about OpenFlow, ReFlow, and a Google search today turned up those and Metaflow and some others. However, many of them are dead-ends. The only reasonable workflow systems are DCWorkflow and Alphaflow (requires Plone). Everything else is more or less old and unmaintained or at least not very much usable. Well, ... CPSWorkflow that requires CPS. It provides a lot of extensions to DCWorkflow. Check out some documentations over there : http://www.cps-project.org/sections/documentation/developers/cpsworkflow/switchLanguage/en/ http://www.cps-project.org/sections/documentation/developers/cps_workflow/downloadFile/attachedFile/cps_wf_impl_procedure.html?nocache=1121817595.66 J. - -- Julien Anguenot | Nuxeo RD (Paris, France) CPS Platform : http://www.cps-project.org Zope3 / ECM : http://www.z3lab.org mail: anguenot at nuxeo.com; tel: +33 (0) 6 72 57 57 66 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDXNNCGhoG8MxZ/pIRAiOHAJ9qNmyTLvBnCqCcY868MLyyYNtZ4wCeOJwG pSI7NO0Zybp7ys10+KSMgtA= =IWQ1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Question: What Workflow tool to choose?
I've been tasked with rapidly developing a demo for a proposed workflow application using Zope. I have plenty of CMF experience including customized workflows based on DCWorkflow, but I'm wondering what other workflows are actively supported and of production quality. In the past I've read blurbs about OpenFlow, ReFlow, and a Google search today turned up those and Metaflow and some others. However, many of them are dead-ends. Openflow's site is a 404 Not Found (in Italian) Metaflow: a 2002 article on ZopeMag sounded interesting, but no link to the software and I can't find it. Plus, old posts on this list make it sound problematic. Reflow turned into CMFOpenflow, which was a fork of Openflow? JaWE2Openflow sounded interesting, but the links are 404 Not Found. Is CMF(DC)Workflow my best option? My application would most likely *not* need other CMF tools, I might want it as a straight Zope 2 application. Also, I'm very new to Zope 3, does it include any workflow or have any available? Thanks, Rob ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question: What Workflow tool to choose?
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[Zope] Question about zserver-threads.
Hi, Concerning the zserver-threads config param... If I have an http-server, ftp-server and webdqv-source-server and if my global zserver-threads param is set to 10, does it mean : a)The the max number of http-server + ftp-server + webdav-source-server threads will be 10 ? b)The max number of http-server + ftp-server + webdav-source-server threads will be 30 (3 zservers) ? Thanks Pascal ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about zserver-threads.
On 29 Jul 2005, at 10:43, Pascal Peregrina wrote: If I have an http-server, ftp-server and webdqv-source-server and if my global zserver-threads param is set to 10, does it mean : a)The the max number of http-server + ftp-server + webdav-source- server threads will be 10 ? b)The max number of http-server + ftp-server + webdav-source-server threads will be 30 (3 zservers) ? a By the way, these parameters should not be tweaked without fully understanding the implications. This is not some magic go fast button. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question on python script, dtml method and options
I use the following template often. When using a page template for my MAIN page,
I access the error and message vars with:
p tal:content=options/errorError message/p
p tal:content=options/messageReg. Message/p
How would I access them when I use a dtml-method for my MAIN page?
dtml-var error and dtml-var message don't seem to work.
Python Script - index_html:
# Import a standard function, and get the HTML request and response objects.
from Products.PythonScripts.standard import html_quote
request = container.REQUEST
RESPONSE = request.RESPONSE
error=''
message=''
if not request.has_key('next_state'):
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something':
try:
doSomething()
message = message + 'We did something'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomething()'
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something Else':
try:
doSomethingElse()
message = message + 'We did something else'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomethingElse()'
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
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Re: [Zope] question on python script, dtml method and options
On 7/19/05, Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use the following template often. When using a page template for my MAIN
page,
I access the error and message vars with:
p tal:content=options/errorError message/p
p tal:content=options/messageReg. Message/p
How would I access them when I use a dtml-method for my MAIN page?
dtml-var error and dtml-var message don't seem to work.
That _should_ work.
In DTML, I think when you ask for something it does a options,
REQUEST, context, acquisition context lookup all in one loop. In TAL
you can't be lazy :( and you have to specify exactly where you expect
it to come from.
Bare in mind that keyword arguments only span across ONE template
where as variables in REQUEST span across ALL templates.
Doublecheck your template usage and/or send us your traceback.
Python Script - index_html:
# Import a standard function, and get the HTML request and response objects.
from Products.PythonScripts.standard import html_quote
request = container.REQUEST
RESPONSE = request.RESPONSE
error=''
message=''
if not request.has_key('next_state'):
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something':
try:
doSomething()
message = message + 'We did something'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomething()'
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something Else':
try:
doSomethingElse()
message = message + 'We did something else'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomethingElse()'
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
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Re: [Zope] question on python script, dtml method and options
I don't get a traceback, i just get error and message back as empty strings;
their initiallized value.
very strange.
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 7/19/05, Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use the following template often. When using a page template for my MAIN page,
I access the error and message vars with:
p tal:content=options/errorError message/p
p tal:content=options/messageReg. Message/p
How would I access them when I use a dtml-method for my MAIN page?
dtml-var error and dtml-var message don't seem to work.
That _should_ work.
In DTML, I think when you ask for something it does a options,
REQUEST, context, acquisition context lookup all in one loop. In TAL
you can't be lazy :( and you have to specify exactly where you expect
it to come from.
Bare in mind that keyword arguments only span across ONE template
where as variables in REQUEST span across ALL templates.
Doublecheck your template usage and/or send us your traceback.
Python Script - index_html:
# Import a standard function, and get the HTML request and response objects.
from Products.PythonScripts.standard import html_quote
request = container.REQUEST
RESPONSE = request.RESPONSE
error=''
message=''
if not request.has_key('next_state'):
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something':
try:
doSomething()
message = message + 'We did something'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomething()'
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something Else':
try:
doSomethingElse()
message = message + 'We did something else'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomethingElse()'
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
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Re: [Zope] question on python script, dtml method and options
On 7/19/05, Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't get a traceback, i just get error and message back as empty strings;
their initiallized value.
So you're not getting an error.
What is the initialized value? Is 'error' and 'message' set in REQUEST?
(that you can find out from doing dtml-var REQUEST)
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 7/19/05, Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use the following template often. When using a page template for my MAIN
page,
I access the error and message vars with:
p tal:content=options/errorError message/p
p tal:content=options/messageReg. Message/p
How would I access them when I use a dtml-method for my MAIN page?
dtml-var error and dtml-var message don't seem to work.
That _should_ work.
In DTML, I think when you ask for something it does a options,
REQUEST, context, acquisition context lookup all in one loop. In TAL
you can't be lazy :( and you have to specify exactly where you expect
it to come from.
Bare in mind that keyword arguments only span across ONE template
where as variables in REQUEST span across ALL templates.
Doublecheck your template usage and/or send us your traceback.
Python Script - index_html:
# Import a standard function, and get the HTML request and response objects.
from Products.PythonScripts.standard import html_quote
request = container.REQUEST
RESPONSE = request.RESPONSE
error=''
message=''
if not request.has_key('next_state'):
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something':
try:
doSomething()
message = message + 'We did something'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomething()'
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something Else':
try:
doSomethingElse()
message = message + 'We did something else'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomethingElse()'
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
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Re: [Zope] question on python script, dtml method and options
I am using DTML only because I am using the excellent Calendar tag product.
sometimes, the links on the calendar tag get affected by from variables so as a
hack i re-write the QUERY_STRING using:
request.RESPONSE.redirect(request['URL'] + '?mode-calendar=' +
request['mode-calendar'] + 'date-calendar=' + request['date-calendar'] +
'location=' + request['location'])
instead of:
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
I originally left that detail out to avoid unnecessary confusion, but I think it
might be the cause...ideas?
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 7/19/05, Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use the following template often. When using a page template for my MAIN page,
I access the error and message vars with:
p tal:content=options/errorError message/p
p tal:content=options/messageReg. Message/p
How would I access them when I use a dtml-method for my MAIN page?
dtml-var error and dtml-var message don't seem to work.
That _should_ work.
In DTML, I think when you ask for something it does a options,
REQUEST, context, acquisition context lookup all in one loop. In TAL
you can't be lazy :( and you have to specify exactly where you expect
it to come from.
Bare in mind that keyword arguments only span across ONE template
where as variables in REQUEST span across ALL templates.
Doublecheck your template usage and/or send us your traceback.
Python Script - index_html:
# Import a standard function, and get the HTML request and response objects.
from Products.PythonScripts.standard import html_quote
request = container.REQUEST
RESPONSE = request.RESPONSE
error=''
message=''
if not request.has_key('next_state'):
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something':
try:
doSomething()
message = message + 'We did something'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomething()'
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something Else':
try:
doSomethingElse()
message = message + 'We did something else'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomethingElse()'
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
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Re: [Zope] question on python script, dtml method and options
How you get to the page is irrelevant. I don't care if you redirect
there or type in the url or click a link.
On 7/19/05, Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am using DTML only because I am using the excellent Calendar tag product.
sometimes, the links on the calendar tag get affected by from variables so as
a
hack i re-write the QUERY_STRING using:
request.RESPONSE.redirect(request['URL'] + '?mode-calendar=' +
request['mode-calendar'] + 'date-calendar=' + request['date-calendar'] +
'location=' + request['location'])
instead of:
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
I originally left that detail out to avoid unnecessary confusion, but I think
it
might be the cause...ideas?
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
On 7/19/05, Erik Myllymaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use the following template often. When using a page template for my MAIN
page,
I access the error and message vars with:
p tal:content=options/errorError message/p
p tal:content=options/messageReg. Message/p
How would I access them when I use a dtml-method for my MAIN page?
dtml-var error and dtml-var message don't seem to work.
That _should_ work.
In DTML, I think when you ask for something it does a options,
REQUEST, context, acquisition context lookup all in one loop. In TAL
you can't be lazy :( and you have to specify exactly where you expect
it to come from.
Bare in mind that keyword arguments only span across ONE template
where as variables in REQUEST span across ALL templates.
Doublecheck your template usage and/or send us your traceback.
Python Script - index_html:
# Import a standard function, and get the HTML request and response objects.
from Products.PythonScripts.standard import html_quote
request = container.REQUEST
RESPONSE = request.RESPONSE
error=''
message=''
if not request.has_key('next_state'):
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something':
try:
doSomething()
message = message + 'We did something'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomething()'
elif request.get('next_state') == 'Do Something Else':
try:
doSomethingElse()
message = message + 'We did something else'
except:
error = error + 'Error in doSomethingElse()'
return container['MAIN'](context, request, error=error, message=message)
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Re: [Zope] question about login
Phillip Hutchings wrote: On 03/05/05, Dennis Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option is to look at the other User Folder products which do things differently. Alternatively, you could modify the CookieCrumbler product to make it fit your model. I've used exUserFolder before, it can store info in the session rather than chucking the user's password around ;) I also posted some patches for CookieCrumbler a while back that do the same thing... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about login
On 13/05/05, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip Hutchings wrote: On 03/05/05, Dennis Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option is to look at the other User Folder products which do things differently. Alternatively, you could modify the CookieCrumbler product to make it fit your model. I've used exUserFolder before, it can store info in the session rather than chucking the user's password around ;) I also posted some patches for CookieCrumbler a while back that do the same thing... Hm, time to search the archives, I'm sure it'll be useful. -- Phillip Hutchings http://www.sitharus.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] question about login
I have created a login form an a few users in acl_users, both exists in a ordered folder called conference. My login Form post to a login dtml method and login dtml method redirect me to another page. Even though the user exists and username and password is correct, somehow zope won't redirect me. The login query window pops out three time and in the end it denied me You are not allowed to access '' in this context. Can someone help me, is there any thing I have to set?? should I move all the files into the root?? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about login
On 03/05/05, u1207440 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have created a login form an a few users in acl_users, both exists in a ordered folder called conference. My login Form post to a login dtml method and login dtml method redirect me to another page. Even though the user exists and username and password is correct, somehow zope won't redirect me. The login query window pops out three time and in the end it denied me You are not allowed to access '' in this context. Can someone help me, is there any thing I have to set?? should I move all the files into the root?? It sounds like you're calling a method that's either restricted or set to a non-anonymous access level. What product are you using to allow you to use forms to log in? Can you post the DTML code? -- Phillip Hutchings http://www.sitharus.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about login
You might take a look at the CookieCrumbler product. It does pretty much what you seem to want manages much of the hard stuff. On Tue, 3 May 2005, Phillip Hutchings wrote: On 03/05/05, u1207440 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have created a login form an a few users in acl_users, both exists in a ordered folder called conference. My login Form post to a login dtml method and login dtml method redirect me to another page. Even though the user exists and username and password is correct, somehow zope won't redirect me. The login query window pops out three time and in the end it denied me You are not allowed to access '' in this context. Can someone help me, is there any thing I have to set?? should I move all the files into the root?? It sounds like you're calling a method that's either restricted or set to a non-anonymous access level. What product are you using to allow you to use forms to log in? Can you post the DTML code? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] question about login
On 03/05/05, Dennis Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might take a look at the CookieCrumbler product. It does pretty much what you seem to want manages much of the hard stuff. I was getting there ;) Though I don't really appreciate the way CookieCrumbler stores the passwords... -- Phillip Hutchings http://www.sitharus.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
