Re: [Zope] Seeking Zope Volunteers

2000-08-15 Thread Dieter Maurer

Andrew Kenneth Milton writes:
  +---[ Lyno Sullivan, Candidate ]--
  | Greetings,
  | 
  | My name is Lyno Sullivan and I am the endorsed Independence Party (see
  
  [ snip ]
  
  And you are now Lyno Sullivan, Spammer and in violation of your own laws.
I would not be that hard.

I think political support is essential for the free software movement.
I see this in Europe where the European Commission prepares
to make software and business rules patentable -- a nightmare
for free software and free lookfeel.
Therefore, it is not bad for the free software movement to support
the right politics.

I, personnally, do not mind *one time* announcements of the above
kind.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] Seeking Zope Volunteers

2000-08-15 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton

y+---[ Dieter Maurer ]--
| Andrew Kenneth Milton writes:
|   +---[ Lyno Sullivan, Candidate ]--
|   | Greetings,
|   | 
|   | My name is Lyno Sullivan and I am the endorsed Independence Party (see
|   
|   [ snip ]
|   
|   And you are now Lyno Sullivan, Spammer and in violation of your own laws.
|
| I would not be that hard.
| 
| I think political support is essential for the free software movement.
| I see this in Europe where the European Commission prepares
| to make software and business rules patentable -- a nightmare
| for free software and free lookfeel.
| Therefore, it is not bad for the free software movement to support
| the right politics.

Volunteers is tolerable, campaign donations is an entirely different ballgame.
Especially since on one hand they're not taking donations from 'special
interest groups.' The "Free Software Movement" is a special interest group,
if they don't support special interest groups then they don't support you.

| I, personnally, do not mind *one time* announcements of the above
| kind.

I do. One time announcements belong on mailing-lists like zope-announce, or
zope-chat. We have enough people who rouse when stuff is off topic 
(like this whole thread, and I do apologise for continuing it),
without the introduction postings about stuff that is completely and 
totally unrelated.

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Re: [Zope] Seeking Zope Volunteers

2000-08-15 Thread Lyn A Headley


Andrew campaign cannot accept | contributions from corporations,
Andrew PACs or special interest organizations so | we rely on
Andrew contributions from individuals like you.

Andrew And you are now Lyno Sullivan, Spammer and in violation of
Andrew your own laws.

What is your problem?  I don't see you flaming people for posting zope
job advertisements or other requests for help with zope projects.
This guy's post is directly relevant to zope and free software.
Calling it spam is way way _way_ out of line, and you should
apologize.

Andrew Too bad I don't even live in the same country as you. Or
Andrew in the same hemisphere. I don't think too many people
Andrew subscribed to the list signed on to a technical list for
Andrew Political Announcements.

Perhaps less narrow-minded folks would see the advancement of Free
software in ANY arena as a positive step, regardless of whether it
happened in their country of origin.

-Lyn

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[Zope] Seeking Zope Volunteers

2000-08-14 Thread Lyno Sullivan, Candidate

Greetings,

My name is Lyno Sullivan and I am the endorsed Independence Party (see
www.eIndependence.org) candidate to the Minnesota State Senate from the
Stillwater area, District 56, which is in Washington County and spans
Stillwater Township south to Hastings and west to Mahtomedi and part of
Oakdale and Woodbury.

I have obtained the endorsement of Richard Stallman, a leader of the free
software community, for my position on free software.  Please see:

http://www.lynosullivan.org/position/pos/964668700

If you visit lynosullivan.org and have a look around, you will get a feeling
for what the campaign teams are up to.  We are creating a product called
"Free Politics" ("free" as in "to free", "freedom" and "free software").  We
are using Red Hat Linux, Linux Router Project, Python, Zope, mySQL, Mailman,
etc.  Please see:

http://www.lynosullivan.org/free/FreePolitics

We are in desperate need of volunteers to help with various Zope and Python
programming assignments.  All this work will become part of the Free
Politics software which is already on the radar screen of some of Governor
Ventura's advisors.  With you help I am hopeful Free Politics can put free
software squarely onto the Minnesota political scene.  Our work might even
draw national recognition and acclaim.  As a politician I seek media
attention. I intend to offer our campaign as a showcase of how affordable
technology can be applied to politics.  Once I am elected our campaign web
site will become the prototype of a new kind of representative democracy
where politicians seek guidance from "We the People" instead of PAC, special
interest and lobbyist groups.  Free Politics has the potential to be really
big but I need your help to make it happen.  If you can volunteer some time
(even a few hours per week), please go to lynosullivan.org and complete the
Volunteer form.

If you cannot volunteer your time but would like to help, please consider
making a $5 to $500 contribution to my campaign.  If you are a Minnesota
eligible voter you can receive a refund on the first $50 through the
Minnesota Political Contribution Refund program.  My campaign cannot accept
contributions from corporations, PACs or special interest organizations so
we rely on contributions from individuals like you.

Thank you for considering our request for help.

Sincerely,

Lyno Sullivan

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Lyno Sullivan
206 S. 5th. St.
Stillwater, MN 55082
651-430-0507
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web: lynosullivan.org

Contributions: Campaign Fund of Lyno Sullivan
and mailed to the following address.  Prepared and paid for by the
Lyno Sullivan Volunteer Committee
P.O. Box 272
Stillwater, MN 55082
651-430-2815


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