Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-06 Thread Chris Withers

michaelntmilne wrote:


And anyway a bit of sport is enjoyable...:-)


So is a bit of procmail magic, goodbye michael ;-)

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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-06 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 6. Oktober 2006 11:33:43 +0100 Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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michaelntmilne wrote:


And anyway a bit of sport is enjoyable...:-)


So is a bit of procmail magic, goodbye michael ;-)



Be aware: he changes his email address. That's why he escaped from
my blacklist.

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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-06 Thread Chris Withers

Andreas Jung wrote:


Be aware: he changes his email address. 


Probably gets banned by the various free providers he abuses ;-)


That's why he escaped from
my blacklist.


probably filtering on milne in the To field will be enough...

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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-06 Thread michaelntmilne
My email address has changed as there have been issues with sending from Gmail not due to any covert operation or attempt to get round any silly blacklists you've set up. I'm frankly relieved that you've done this as I don't particularly find both your inputs helpful or useful. There are many others on this list which provide brilliant advice without any of the emotive, attitude based comments that are simply childish. And others have the same opinion.Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote:  Be aware: he changes his email address. Probably gets banned by the various free providers he abuses ;-) That's why he escaped from my blacklist.probably filtering on "milne" in the To field will be
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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-05 Thread Chris Withers

michaelntmilne wrote:
Simply good advice. I'm not asking for people to do my work for me! 


Did anyone ask you for advice? ;-)

I'm perfectly capable of doing it myself thanks very much. 


I'm sure the authors look forward to your patches and unit tests...

There is a general disdain of Windows which does have a basis but which I find slightly short sighted at times. 


You're ranting at one of the few people on this list who does a lot of 
Zope development on Windows...



Anyway, this product should say it doesn't work or hasn't been tested on 
Windows if that is the case.


Should is say it doesn't work on a Sinclair Spectrum or iPod while it's 
at it?


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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-05 Thread Pascal Peregrina
By the way, it used to work fine on cygwin (was Zope 2.7 when I last used it
on a windows+cygwin box)... ;)

My 2 euro cents.

Pascal


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 michaelntmilne wrote:
 Simply good advice. I'm not asking for people to do my work for me!
 
 Did anyone ask you for advice? ;-)
 
 I'm perfectly capable of doing it myself thanks very much.
 
 I'm sure the authors look forward to your patches and unit tests...
 
 There is a general disdain of Windows which does have a basis but which I
 find slightly short sighted at times.
 
 You're ranting at one of the few people on this list who does a lot of
 Zope development on Windows...
 
 Anyway, this product should say it doesn't work or hasn't been tested on
 Windows if that is the case.
 
 Should is say it doesn't work on a Sinclair Spectrum or iPod while it's
 at it?
 
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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-05 Thread michaelntmilne
Did anyone ask you for advice? ;-)Well if you're not open to opinion then you have a closed mindI'm sure the authors look forward to your patches and unit tests...? I'm not a programmer and don't aspire to be one. Does everyone have to program? What about division of labour or are you stuck in the dark ages?You're ranting at one of the few people on this list who does a lot of Zope development on Windows...Your mind is more open that I thought :-)Should is say it doesn't work on a Sinclair Spectrum or iPod while it's at it?Illogical - Does Zope run on a Spectrum?No. Does Zope run on an iPod? No. (not even a computing plaform by the way) Does Zope run on Windows? Yes. Does the product claim to work on Zope on Windows - Yes.Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michaelntmilne wrote: Simply good advice. I'm not asking for people to do my work for me! Did anyone ask you for advice? ;-) I'm perfectly capable of doing it myself thanks very much. I'm sure the authors look forward to your patches and unit tests... There is a general disdain of Windows which does have a basis but which I find slightly short sighted at times. You're ranting at one of the few people on this list who does a lot of Zope development on Windows... Anyway, this product should say it doesn't work or hasn't been tested on Windows if that is the case.Should is say it doesn't work on a Sinclair Spectrum or iPod while it's at it?Chris-- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope  Python Consulting- http://www.simplistix.co.uk 
		 
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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-05 Thread michaelntmilne
By the way, it used to work fine on cygwin (was Zope 2.7 when I last used iton a windows+cygwin box)... ;)My 2 euro cents.PascalThing is the documentation doesn't mention anything about cygwin at all.Pascal Peregrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, it used to work fine on cygwin (was Zope 2.7 when I last used iton a windows+cygwin box)... ;)My 2 euro cents.Pascal De: Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:38:25 +0100 À: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <zope@zope.org> Objet: Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts..  michaelntmilne wrote: Simply good advice. I'm not asking for people to
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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-04 Thread Chris Withers

michaelntmilne wrote:

but it *should* work on windows as well. Ok, it's not the ultimate platform but 
ignoring it or not making sure products work on it undermines the expansion of 
zope and zope related products


There you go, once again making assertions about what work other people 
should be doing without any consideration of whether or not they give a 
monkeys and without offering to pay them to do what is, after all, your 
work...


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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-04 Thread michaelntmilne
Simply good advice. I'm not asking for people to do my work for me! I'm perfectly capable of doing it myself thanks very much. I've got everything running using VisualCron for Windows. There is a general disdain of Windows which does have a basis but which I find slightly short sighted at times. Anyway, this product should say it doesn't work or hasn't been tested on Windows if that is the case.Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michaelntmilne wrote: but it *should* work on windows as well. Ok, it's not the ultimate platform but ignoring it or not making sure products work on it undermines the expansion of zope and zope related productsThere you go, once again making assertions about what work other people should be doing without any consideration of whether or not they give a monkeys and without
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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-04 Thread Lennart Regebro

On 10/4/06, michaelntmilne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Simply good advice. I'm not asking for people to do my work for me! I'm
perfectly capable of doing it myself thanks very much. I've got everything
running using VisualCron for Windows. There is a general disdain of Windows
which does have a basis but which I find slightly short sighted at times.


Windows is a pain in the ass as a server platform. That said it's OK
for Python development, as long as you don't need a c-compiler, it's a
good desktop, and it is absolutely necessary to support for demos.

So I agree, the disdain for Windows is short-sighted. An unix sucks as
desktop. (Although it seems to me though that Windows suck more and
more and Unix less and less, so in a couple of years...) ;)

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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-03 Thread michaelntmilne
but it *should* work on windows as well. Ok, it's not the ultimate platform but ignoring it or not making sure products work on it undermines the expansion of zope and zope related products- Original Message From: Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: michaelntmilne [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: zope@zope.orgSent: Monday, 2 October, 2006 5:58:58 PMSubject: Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts..Forget it.You're on Windows.nevermind.- COn Oct 2, 2006, at 11:42 AM, michaelntmilne wrote: Hi I've set up ZopeScheduler
 and TimerService to run a basic pack the ZODB script based on a time period. It won't run for some reason. TimerService starts up fine and listend. I get this in the log but no info on a script being run. I have the correct path and time info in ZopeScheduler. Zope 2.8.7 Windows. Thanks 2006-09-30T13:20:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat Sep 30 13:20:09 2006 -- 2006-09-30T13:30:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat Sep 30 13:30:09 2006 -- 2006-09-30T13:40:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat Sep 30 13:40:09 200ch ___ Zope maillist-Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding!** (Related lists -http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announcehttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )___
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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-03 Thread Andreas Jung



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but it *should* work on windows as well. Ok, it's not the ultimate
platform but ignoring it or not making sure products work on it
undermines the expansion of zope and zope related products



Nonsense. There are always reasons why a software might only certain
operating systems - either because on some limitations of the operating
systems itself or because of software constraints.

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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-03 Thread Lennart Regebro

On 10/3/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nonsense. There are always reasons why a software might only certain
operating systems - either because on some limitations of the operating
systems itself or because of software constraints.


Well, sure. But if this doesn't work on windows, this should be
clearly stated and documented. If not, it's a bug. :-)

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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-03 Thread michaelntmilne
Well, sure. But if this doesn't work on windows, this should beclearly stated and documented. If not, it's a bug. :-)Exactly and both ZopeScheduler and TimerService claim to work on Windows. That's the point I was making. Fair enough if it can't be done on a platform but that isn't the case here. So I think 'nonsense' is slightly emotive shall we say.- Original Message From: Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: michaelntmilne [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.orgSent: Tuesday, 3 October, 2006 4:57:58 PMSubject: Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but
 doesn't run scripts..On 10/3/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nonsense. There are always reasons why a software might only certain operating systems - either because on some limitations of the operating systems itself or because of software constraints.Well, sure. But if this doesn't work on windows, this should beclearly stated and documented. If not, it's a bug. :-)-- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/___
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[Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-02 Thread michaelntmilne
HiI've set up ZopeScheduler and TimerService to run a basic
pack the ZODB script based on a time period. It won't run for some
reason. TimerService starts up fine and listend.I get this in the log but no info on a script being run. I have the correct path and time info in ZopeScheduler. Zope 
2.8.7 Windows.Thanks2006-09-30T13:20:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat Sep 30 13:20:09 2006--2006-09-30T13:30:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat Sep 30 13:30:09 2006
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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-02 Thread Chris McDonough
Yu could instead use ClockServer... it's built in to Zope 2.10 but  
can be used in older versions via a product... see http:// 
www.plope.com/software/ClockServer/ for code and docs.


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On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:42 AM, michaelntmilne wrote:


Hi

I've set up ZopeScheduler and TimerService to run a basic pack the  
ZODB script based on a time period. It won't run for some reason.  
TimerService starts up fine and listend.


I get this in the log but no info on a script being run. I have the  
correct path and time info in ZopeScheduler. Zope 2.8.7 Windows.


Thanks

2006-09-30T13:20:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat  
Sep 30 13:20:09 2006


--
2006-09-30T13:30:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat  
Sep 30 13:30:09 2006


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2006-09-30T13:40:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat  
Sep 30 13:40:09 200ch

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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-02 Thread michaelntmilne
Hi ChrisI'm on Windows for this project and Clock Server mentions compiling using C++. Now I've compiled using Python but would rather not get involved in the hard core :-)I may just resort to a Windows batch process which calls the Zope process. Frustrating though that ZopeScheduler appears not to work on Windows- Original Message From: Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: michaelntmilne [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: zope@zope.orgSent: Monday, 2 October, 2006 5:09:48 PMSubject: Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts..Yu could instead use ClockServer... it's built
 in to Zope 2.10 butcan be used in older versions via a product... see http:// www.plope.com/software/ClockServer/ for code and docs.- COn Oct 2, 2006, at 11:42 AM, michaelntmilne wrote: Hi I've set up ZopeScheduler and TimerService to run a basic pack the ZODB script based on a time period. It won't run for some reason. TimerService starts up fine and listend. I get this in the log but no info on a script being run. I have the correct path and time info in ZopeScheduler. Zope 2.8.7 Windows. Thanks 2006-09-30T13:20:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat Sep 30 13:20:09 2006 -- 2006-09-30T13:30:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat Sep 30 13:30:09
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Re: [Zope] TimerService/ZopeScheduler runs but doesn't run scripts......

2006-10-02 Thread Chris McDonough

Forget it.  You're on Windows.  nevermind.

- C

On Oct 2, 2006, at 11:42 AM, michaelntmilne wrote:


Hi

I've set up ZopeScheduler and TimerService to run a basic pack the  
ZODB script based on a time period. It won't run for some reason.  
TimerService starts up fine and listend.


I get this in the log but no info on a script being run. I have the  
correct path and time info in ZopeScheduler. Zope 2.8.7 Windows.


Thanks

2006-09-30T13:20:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat  
Sep 30 13:20:09 2006


--
2006-09-30T13:30:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat  
Sep 30 13:30:09 2006


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2006-09-30T13:40:09 INFO ZopeScheduler Process timer tick at Sat  
Sep 30 13:40:09 200ch

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