Re: [Zope] WebOS and Zope

2000-06-30 Thread Jason Spisak

Curtis Maloney writes:

  Is it possible to simulate this sort of environment in an XML client?
 
 Hmm... what sort of XML client did you have in mind?  I may be wrong, but I 
 suspect you may have made a similar mistake to most people who encounter XML. 
  XML is not a whole data format, in much the same way as TCP is not a whole 
 protocol.
 
 HTTP is a protocol that uses TCP, just as XHTML and DocBook are data formats 
 that use XML.  XML allows any XML compliant parser to PARSE the contents, but 
 not neccesarily COMPREHEND it.
 
 So, a custom XML client could be built which would understand whatever I sent 
 it, and display the desktop accordingly.  However, an 'off the shelf' XML 
 'client'... who could say.
 

I meant a custom client.  Like the Jabber situation http://www.jabber.org


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Re: [Zope] WebOS and Zope

2000-06-29 Thread Jason Spisak

Curtis Maloney writes:

ILet me correct myself, when I said they were going to release it
opensource, it looks like just their HyperOffice suite and apps, not the
"OS" itself. :(

 On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Jason Spisak wrote:
  Zopists,
 
  I have been away for a bit, and will be gone again soon, but I found
  this the other day:
  Has anyone checked out http://www.webos.com  ?
  It's free to sign up, just use explorer 5.0 and try it.
  I was amazed. It has drag and drop, looks like a real desktop.
 
 
 Interestingly enough, I had recently been joking about with some friends 
 about doing something like this.  Simulating a Win9x desktop with ZOPE and 
 Javascript.
 

I don't know jack about javascript really.  Is that all they are using to
simulate drag and drop and a desktop?

  Now for the Zope angle:
 
  I am curious if anyone thinks Zope can server up content like this?  XML
  Desktop?
 I figured storing most of the info in XMLDocuments would be the simplest...
 
  I think they are using ColdFusion though.  An actual webtop powered by
  Zope.
  What would it take?
 
 Hmm... well, about 2 weeks of uninterrupted time and I'd suprise even myself 
 with how much it did. (o8
 

And then we woke up.

  They say they are going to release it OpenSource on their developer
  page. ;)
 
 Ooh... sounds neat.
 
  All my best,
 
 Have a better one,
   Curtis.
 
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Re: [Zope] WebOS and Zope

2000-06-29 Thread Bill Anderson

Jason Spisak wrote:
 
 Curtis Maloney writes:

[...]

  Interestingly enough, I had recently been joking about with some friends
  about doing something like this.  Simulating a Win9x desktop with ZOPE and
  Javascript.
 
 
 I don't know jack about javascript really.  Is that all they are using to
 simulate drag and drop and a desktop?


Probably. A site that does this has been around for quite a while now:
http://rive.boxybutgood.com/WindowMaker/
(It is down for a while, but will be back up soon (he Says)

For those who have seen the WindowMaker Desktop, that's exactly what it
looks like; draggable windows, layers, menuing system, Dock Apps etc.
-- 
"Linux: the operating system with a CLUE...
Command Line User Environment".

seen in a posting on comp.software.testing

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