Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
robert rottermann wrote: Any pointers would be welcome. maybe you want to check out visitors: http://www.hping.org/visitors/ http://www.hping.org/visitors/graph.png /wolfie ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
--On 2. Juni 2008 07:22:06 -0400 Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Highly recommend Google Analytics: http://www.google.com/analytics/ I've used it myself to track usage for a zope intranet which is only accessible on an internal network. Do you really want to send intranet-related data to Google? :-) Andreas pgpgIisQIyYxi.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
Hi there, for a Client using a plone2 intranet (with no access from the outside world) I installed awstat to track the usage of the intranet. now I wonder how meningfull such statisics are. The intranet usage is roughly as follows: - user logs into the intranet authenticating against a Ldap/MSActiveDirectory - she stays in the intranet all day, probably never logs out - collects data as needed The awstats setup is very basic. I just installed it and adopted the config files such that it finds the apache log files. I did a second setup for the Z2.log (to get at the old data, as we do not rotate the Z2.log). Looking at the awstats statistics I do not find them of overwhelming informative. Now, I now awstats is not a click analysis tool. but maybe somebody has done some more analysis into how to provide useful statistics on the usage of an intranet. Any pointers would be welcome. thanks robert ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
--On 2. Juni 2008 12:52:38 +0200 robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the awstats statistics I do not find them of overwhelming informative. Now, I now awstats is not a click analysis tool. but maybe somebody has done some more analysis into how to provide useful statistics on the usage of an intranet. Since the information stored within the standard logs is limited, all tools can only perform an analysis on top of the available information. So the tools basically provide the same functionality and differ only in the way they present the results to the outside world. Andreas pgpFBgTPrRt7Q.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
that's a call that each individual has to make. if you're uncomfortable with google knowing your intranets title tags and urls then don't. the guy is looking for potential solutions not explantions of why he can't or shoulndt do something. On 6/2/08, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 2. Juni 2008 07:22:06 -0400 Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Highly recommend Google Analytics: http://www.google.com/analytics/ I've used it myself to track usage for a zope intranet which is only accessible on an internal network. Do you really want to send intranet-related data to Google? :-) Andreas ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
Highly recommend Google Analytics: http://www.google.com/analytics/ I've used it myself to track usage for a zope intranet which is only accessible on an internal network. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:52 AM, robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, for a Client using a plone2 intranet (with no access from the outside world) I installed awstat to track the usage of the intranet. now I wonder how meningfull such statisics are. The intranet usage is roughly as follows: - user logs into the intranet authenticating against a Ldap/MSActiveDirectory - she stays in the intranet all day, probably never logs out - collects data as needed The awstats setup is very basic. I just installed it and adopted the config files such that it finds the apache log files. I did a second setup for the Z2.log (to get at the old data, as we do not rotate the Z2.log). Looking at the awstats statistics I do not find them of overwhelming informative. Now, I now awstats is not a click analysis tool. but maybe somebody has done some more analysis into how to provide useful statistics on the usage of an intranet. Any pointers would be welcome. thanks robert ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
Andreas Jung schrieb: --On 2. Juni 2008 07:22:06 -0400 Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Highly recommend Google Analytics: http://www.google.com/analytics/ I've used it myself to track usage for a zope intranet which is only accessible on an internal network. Do you really want to send intranet-related data to Google? :-) Andreas this is exactly why google analytics is no option (unfortunately). robert ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
Tom Von Lahndorff schrieb: Highly recommend Google Analytics: http://www.google.com/analytics/ I've used it myself to track usage for a zope intranet which is only accessible on an internal network. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:52 AM, robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, but the customer does not like the idea of having data on a public site. robert ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
--On 2. Juni 2008 14:50:42 +0200 robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Von Lahndorff schrieb: Highly recommend Google Analytics: http://www.google.com/analytics/ I've used it myself to track usage for a zope intranet which is only accessible on an internal network. Then look at the (incomplete) list of available tools: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logfile-Analyse and check their feature list. Andreas pgp1Lhyocnv31.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site
Hi, robert rottermann wrote: Hi there, for a Client using a plone2 intranet (with no access from the outside world) I installed awstat to track the usage of the intranet. now I wonder how meningfull such statisics are. I guess you have something like apache in front of the zope, if so you can make a custom log format (with relevant fields, separated uniform, e.g. tabs) and spool them in a database, for example I used some tables in postgres: uris (uri_id,'/foo/bar') queries (query_id,'?foo=bar') methods (method_id, 'GET'), hostnames (host_id,'www.foo.de') access (timestamp,host_id,bytes,time,method_id,uri_id,query_id ) with an insert-script and then you can easily run reports against those structured data. You can also include various request parameters I did not show above (like session cookie, auth_user, ...) Regards Tino smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
