Re: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee
On Wednesday 24 January 2001, at 17 h 49, the keyboard of [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll believe it when I see it. Then I'll laugh when I see it crash. You rabid Unix bigot, how do you dare being so sarcastic? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee
And upon Thursday of January 25, the illustrious Stephane Bortzmeyer spake thusly... On Wednesday 24 January 2001, at 17 h 49, the keyboard of [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll believe it when I see it. Then I'll laugh when I see it crash. You rabid Unix bigot, how do you dare being so sarcastic? grin Yeah -- this comming from someone using exmh mua on a linux debian box! (c8= X-mailer... the true sign of manhood. Beers! Corey -- "Windows was created to keep the stupid people away from Unix. An "MS advocate" is therefore already beneath contempt." - Tom Christiansen ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee
Michelle Walden wrote: You could now recommend W2k as a much more stable *than either 95 or NT4* alternative that does USB support out of the box. Than NT4? I don't think so Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee
You could now recommend W2k as a much more stable *than either 95 or NT4* alternative that does USB support out of the box. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Capesius, Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee I understand people do use Win9x, but I would always recommend NT 4 workstation over 9x unless there is an overpowering need for USB. I don't use USB myself and have been using NT exclusively on the desktop since 94. When properly configured it is much more stable. Nowadays, NT5 (oops 2000) is a better choice for USB support and about as stable as 9x. But, that aside, I'm interested in your desktop uses for Zope. What sort of apps? From: Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are those of us who use Zope in desktop applications too (yes really), where Win9x is not an unreasonable choice. Toby Dickenson ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee
To clarify, W2k is probably pretty reliable now for the desktop, but the servers have a way to go. In addition to reliability issues, the resources required to do the same functions on the 2000 products (w2k, office 2K, access 2K) are much higher than the 97 and 4.0 versions. MS can't even keep their own sites going: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2677896,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews 01 Now I don't bash MS for a living, just as a hobby. They've been sliding steadily downhill since the 4.0 release. I provide computer services on MS and Novell networks for a living. I would not consider putting W2K servers into production until they are stabilized and still would not do so unless my client are planning a hardware upgrade as part of the process. We've seen too many black screens of death with W2K servers. The clients do appear more stable, but why sacrifice performance in a business environment when you gain nothing? I've used 4.0 without a crash for years. Why switch? It's faster and does everything I need. It will be interesting to see the Unix command-line loving community's reaction when MS releases their text mode server product. This will certainly interest the mouse-phobic. If I want USB for multimedia solutions, I'll probably do it under BeOS. Then again, I'll probably use firewire. (which should've been in windows instead of USB from the start. Alan -Original Message- From: Michelle Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:10 PM To: Capesius, Alan; zope Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee You could now recommend W2k as a much more stable *than either 95 or NT4* alternative that does USB support out of the box. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Capesius, Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee I understand people do use Win9x, but I would always recommend NT 4 workstation over 9x unless there is an overpowering need for USB. I don't use USB myself and have been using NT exclusively on the desktop since 94. When properly configured it is much more stable. Nowadays, NT5 (oops 2000) is a better choice for USB support and about as stable as 9x. But, that aside, I'm interested in your desktop uses for Zope. What sort of apps? From: Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are those of us who use Zope in desktop applications too (yes really), where Win9x is not an unreasonable choice. Toby Dickenson ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee
It will be interesting to see the Unix command-line loving community's reaction when MS releases their text mode server product. This will certainly interest the mouse-phobic. What product is this? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee
Supposed to be in NT7 (after whistler) It will be a headless version. -Original Message- From: Gerald Gutierrez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:16 PM To: Capesius, Alan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee It will be interesting to see the Unix command-line loving community's reaction when MS releases their text mode server product. This will certainly interest the mouse-phobic. What product is this? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee
And upon Wednesday of January 24, the illustrious Capesius, Alan spake thusly... What product is this? Supposed to be in NT7 (after whistler) It will be a headless version. Hmm... the term "vapor" comes immediately to mind. I'll believe it when I see it. Then I'll laugh when I see it crash. Beers, Corey ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
