Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-25 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 06:58:31PM +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote at 2005-4-8 10:59 +0200: ... On Apr 8, 2005 8:48 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Which The Zope Book are you referring to? The 2.6 one on Zope.org? The 2.7 one on Plope.com? The

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-24 Thread Dieter Maurer
Lennart Regebro wrote at 2005-4-8 10:59 +0200: ... On Apr 8, 2005 8:48 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Which The Zope Book are you referring to? The 2.6 one on Zope.org? The 2.7 one on Plope.com? The 3.whatever one somewhere-I-don't-know? I would expect it to be featured,

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-12 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Chris McDonough wrote: I don't think anyone has given much thought to actually documenting all these nice nifty features in 2.9. Which is no change from the norm, and it will be a fairly organic process again. I hate it, but whatever. - C Speaking of which, and being one of the people that

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-12 Thread Chris McDonough
No, sorry. THe canonical version is on the web. - C On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 04:10, Dario Lopez-Ksten wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: I don't think anyone has given much thought to actually documenting all these nice nifty features in 2.9. Which is no change from the norm, and it will be a

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Apr 8, 2005 8:48 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: When will they feature in *the* Zope Book? Which The Zope Book are you referring to? The 2.6 one on Zope.org? The 2.7 one on Plope.com? The 3.whatever one somewhere-I-don't-know? I would expect it to be

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-08 Thread Chris McDonough
I don't think anyone has given much thought to actually documenting all these nice nifty features in 2.9. Which is no change from the norm, and it will be a fairly organic process again. I hate it, but whatever. - C On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 11:22, Paul Winkler wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Apr 8, 2005 5:22 PM, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But that leaves unanswered questions - should we document the Five stuff at all, and if so, how? Well, the Five stuff is a subset of the Zope3 stuff, with way too much Zope2 stuff still necessary. The idea is that this should change

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-08 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 05:41:30PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Apr 8, 2005 5:22 PM, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But that leaves unanswered questions - should we document the Five stuff at all, and if so, how? Well, the Five stuff is a subset of the Zope3 stuff, with way too

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Apr 8, 2005 5:59 PM, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, but there should at least be a pointer to something to read for people wanting to get started with 2.8.0/Five. I haven't yet looked at any of the Five stuff. Is there at least a README? :) Sure. I don't guarantee that it's

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-08 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 06:06:57PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Apr 8, 2005 5:59 PM, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the chapter-by-chapter editing is still not done. See http://plope.com/Books/zb_signup for an overview of the known tasks to be done. OK, but that's better

Re: [Zope] The Zope Book

2005-04-08 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 08 April 2005 11:22, Paul Winkler wrote: The primary problem with the Zope Book is still the relative scarcity of resources (i.e. editors with time to work on it). The secondary problem with the Zope Book is that it's showing its age: the choice and organization of topics is IMHO

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book at ZopeWiki.org

2004-04-22 Thread Chris McDonough
On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 02:56, Chris Withers wrote: Any chance ZopeWiki.org could become the master location for the book? It's got a much nicer UI than Zope.org... Every few weeks or so I go and clean out (sometimes hundreds of) test and fglrldjksjds and you suck! comments in the BackTalk

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book at ZopeWiki.org

2004-04-22 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any chance ZopeWiki.org could become the master location for the book? It's gonna be hard to get a printable book out of a Wiki... ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book at ZopeWiki.org

2004-04-22 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 22 April 2004 03:31, Lennart Regebro wrote: Today 03:31:57 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any chance ZopeWiki.org could become the master location for the book? It's gonna be hard to get a printable book out of a Wiki... I tried this and I can tell you that a Wiki is

Re: [Zope-dev] zope book volunteering

2002-12-11 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 20:14, Chris McDonough wrote: Here are the chapters in the 2.6 edition of the Zope Book ( http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/index_html ) that are not yet spoken for: Maintaining Zope Extending Zope (ZClasses) Advanced DTML Searching and

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-09 Thread Matthew T. Kromer
Jeffrey P Shell wrote: But SQL Method DTML is very very very very nice. It has a lot of type enforcement/safety measures (ie - autoquoting SQL Strings, ensuring that a 'sqlvar type=float' operation is inserting a float); a lot of *very* nice features for generating 'where' clauses (the

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-09 Thread Jeffrey P Shell
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 04:11 AM, Tino Wildenhain wrote: Hi Chris, --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 21:27 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 19:13, Tino Wildenhain wrote: These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML nor in ZPT :-)

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-09 Thread Allen Schmidt
: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance erm... would advanced DTML not be the short sentence: avoid DTML where you can? ;) That'd be ok, except that DTML can of course do things that ZPT can't, yada yada yada. Btw. did you think of putting the whole DTML stuff at the end

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-07 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Hi Chris, --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 21:27 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 19:13, Tino Wildenhain wrote: These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML nor in ZPT :-) What do you suggest people use for a templating language for email,

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-07 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 06:11, Tino Wildenhain wrote: Hi Chris, --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 21:27 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 19:13, Tino Wildenhain wrote: These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML nor in ZPT :-) What

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-06 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Hi, --On Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 23:20 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Advanced DTML: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AdvDTML.stx erm... would advanced DTML not be the short sentence: avoid DTML where you can? ;) Btw. did you think of

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-06 Thread Chris McDonough
erm... would advanced DTML not be the short sentence: avoid DTML where you can? ;) That'd be ok, except that DTML can of course do things that ZPT can't, yada yada yada. Btw. did you think of putting the whole DTML stuff at the end for reference only to help migrating old products and turn

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-06 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Hi Chris, --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 09:50 -0500 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: erm... would advanced DTML not be the short sentence: avoid DTML where you can? ;) That'd be ok, except that DTML can of course do things that ZPT can't, yada yada yada. These are exactly the

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance

2002-12-06 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 19:13, Tino Wildenhain wrote: These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML nor in ZPT :-) What do you suggest people use for a templating language for email, JavaScript, SQL, etc? I think it's too much to expect them to use Python to do this (esp. wrt SQL

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book Question: 'context' doesn't work in PythonMethods

2000-11-20 Thread Ken Manheimer
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Shane Hathaway wrote: They are using an unreleased version of the Python Methods product. AFAIK the only thing holding up the release of the new Python Methods is the renaming. (I believe the version in question is available from the public CVS repository, as the

Re: [Zope] OT Zope book images - PDF

2000-11-01 Thread Phil Harris
Eric, I got Acrobat to recognise the png's by first loading the html nto msword and then 'printing' the PDF from there. hth Phil - Original Message - From: "Eric Walstad" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:58 AM Subject:

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Wolfgang Strobl
On 31 Oct 2000, at 10:39, Amos Latteier wrote: I believe that O'Reilly doesn't want the book redistributed before it is printed. It's gone. I'll recheck with them. No need to. But what is the meaning of This is the one to print out and give to your friends as christmas gifts, folks, so

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Michel Pelletier
Wolfgang Strobl wrote: On 31 Oct 2000, at 10:39, Amos Latteier wrote: I believe that O'Reilly doesn't want the book redistributed before it is printed. It's gone. I'll recheck with them. No need to. But what is the meaning of This is the one to print out and give to your

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Wolfgang Strobl
On 31 Oct 2000, at 12:54, Michel Pelletier wrote: That was a joke. Sorry. Uh, oh. Well, my thought was as follows: people are already annoucing making PDF versions, which are a much greater potential harm to to the number of sales of a printed book.With a good pdf file, I can get to my

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Phil Harris
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Amos Latteier" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta | On 31 Oct 2000, at 12:54, Michel Pelletier wrote: | | That was a joke. Sorry. |

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Dennis Nichols
At 10/31/00 11:08 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: For example; I have HTML help versions _and_ printed copies of the - outdated - Zope docs, and one of each from the actual howto-collection, and I'm using them both. Wolfgang - How about putting up your HTML help version of the howto-collection? That

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Jeff Hoffman
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: On 31 Oct 2000, at 12:54, Michel Pelletier wrote: That was a joke. Sorry. Uh, oh. Well, my thought was as follows: people are already annoucing making PDF versions, which are a much greater potential harm to to the number of sales of a