Re: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-17 Thread Chris Withers
Seb Bacon wrote: edit a document through webDAV but *not* TTW. In my mind, you're either authenticated to do a task, or you're not. It doesn't matter *how* you do it. That's why 'listable' or something like it would be a better name for the permission than 'URL Traversable', IMHO (although

Re: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-17 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Management, however, would be more difficult, as there are no good defaults for the "URL Traversable" permission. It is not easy, to determine (e.g.) for a DTML method/document whether it is only used as a component (such as "standard_html_header") or is a full grown

Re: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-17 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: My primary concern (and maybe Chris') is, how can we prevent these objects to be viewed by Anonymous. Yup, that's exactly my point... cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-13 Thread Dieter Maurer
Seb Bacon writes: OK, I think we're talking about the same thing now...but could you give me an example of any object that would need to be traversable by Anonymous? index_html, for example, doesn't need to be traversable (I still prefer 'listable'). Viewable TTW, yes, but that's all. I

RE: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-12 Thread Seb Bacon
oops, I forgot to foward my last mail on this subject to the list. My response here to Dieter's response captures contains the main points though... I think, the implementation would be easy. Management, however, would be more difficult, as there are no good defaults for the "URL

RE: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-10 Thread Seb Bacon
This is because the thing which makes the problem hard is that something like standard_html_header wants to be editable by Managers TTW, which means it also has to be visible TTW. However, it's probably not something you want exposed to anonymous users, especially as a TTW

RE: [Zope] Access Control vs Publishing Protoco

2000-10-10 Thread Dieter Maurer
Seb Bacon writes: For me, the 'visibility' problem is a real bugbear. Apart from the 'security' issue of anon. users being able to list objectIds, it means I am loathe to allow clients to manage their sites through the manage interface. This is because they'll see it littered with