Re: [Zope] Re: Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge

2005-04-05 Thread Andreas Pakulat 
On 05.Apr 2005 - 12:01:14, Derrick Hudson wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 02:02:43PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote:
 | The moral of this whole story seems to shine through:
 | 
 | Don't install Zope from OS packages like debian, they never get it right 
 | and you will just end up getting confused ;-)
 
 The current situation is filled with bit-rot,

?? bit-rot?

 but before that began the packages were just fine.  It would seem,
 too, that the bit-rot will recede in the near future.  In the
 meantime, I would recommend using the upstream source for
 installation.

As I said, if you install zope27 you get a message what to do next to
get the instance up and running. The same with plone. The only
drawback at the moment is, that you need to change the zope.conf to
get some packages to work with zope27. This will probably change when
Debian finally drops zope26 (I don't understand why they keep it
anyway...)

Andreas

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Re: [Zope] Re: Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge

2005-04-01 Thread Shane Graber 
google search for your error message yielded:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2005-January/155790.html

If you did an 'apt-get install plone' it's still trying to pull in
Zope 2.6.  What I ended up doing was to uninstall plone and then
'apt-get install zope2.7', create my default instance w/
mkzopeinstance.py (installed to /var/lib/zope2.7/instance/default) and
then just dropped the Plone, etc packages into my
/instances/default/Producs folder.

Shane

On Apr 1, 2005 10:05 AM, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Peter Bittner wrote:
 
  I am running a Debian Linux box with Debian/testing (Sarge) and I am trying 
  to
  get Plone up and running. I have made a clean, new install of the whole
  system last week, so all packages are really up-to-date and there was no
  dirty installation that was updated.
 
  I have noticed that the Plone package on Debian is or was somewhat broken, 
  but
  there was a notice about that on the Plone website (download page) which has
  disappeared. For me that looked like this problem was fixed by the package
  maintainer.
 
  Unfortunately still, after installing Plone (and implicitly thus Zope 2.7)
  Zope did not want to come up, saying:
 
Zope starting all instances
'*' is an old/purged instance, not started
 
  What is wrong here?
 
 You need to supply more detail, like showing the exact working
 directory, comand lines, etc. you used, and the full traceback, if any.
  Also note that the Debian maintainer should probably be your first line
 of contact:  very few folks on this list are likely to grok the details
 of packaging for Debian.
 
  I know I have to set up a new Plone site (obviously using the Zope interface
  at http://localhost:9673), but how can I when Zope is not running.
 
  Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
 Tres.
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Re: [Zope] Re: Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge

2005-04-01 Thread Andreas Pakulat 
On 01.Apr 2005 - 10:14:36, Shane Graber wrote:
 google search for your error message yielded:
 
 http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2005-January/155790.html
 
 If you did an 'apt-get install plone' it's still trying to pull in
 Zope 2.6.

That's not correct, current Plone will favor zope27 over zope package,
you can see that in the dependecies. However, the Plone Product(s)
will still be installed in a path where the old Zope2.6 will find it
and thus are not automatically seen by Zope2.7. Anyway, how this can
be changed and how to setup the 2.7 zope is explained via
debconf-pages during the installation of zope27 and plone and even
when you disable debconf, you can still do RTFM in
/usr/share/doc/(zope|plone). I tried it lately and it took about 5
Minutes to get both zope27 and plone up and running (including
installtion via apt-get).

Andreas

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