Re: [Zope] Reconnection session_data to own Session.fs storage

2009-08-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
> I verified using your process that it is indeed just a folder. So I deleted
> the session_folder in the root and then tried to add a ZODB mount point in the
> root and it showed the session_folder was ready to be created. I made sure
> that option was checked and clicked Ok. It reloaded the root folder and the
> new session_folder was there, but it still seems like it is just a regular
> folder and does not identify itself as a mount point. I also added the
> session_data object into that folder as a Transient Object Container as it was
> before.
> Does the session_data_manager that points to that session_data folder also
> have to be removed in this process? Could be holding it up somehow?

No. The "session_data" manager contains only the path to the session
data. It has nothing to do where the sessions are maintained.

You are sure that you have verified via "app.__dict__['temp_folder']"
that "temp_folder" is a MountPoint (and have seen it as a normal "Folder")?
If you access "temp_folder" normally, it will always look like a normal
folder (if mounting was successful).


If you have verified correctly, then some magic must have changed your
mount point back again to a normal "Folder". I do not know such
magic -- therefore, I doubt that your verification was correct.
But, you may put your session storage at a different place
(say "session_storage") and reconfigure the "session_data_manager" to
point to this new place. This way, no magic should be able to
modify your mount point.



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Re: [Zope] Reconnection session_data to own Session.fs storage

2009-08-05 Thread Allen Schmidt Sr.




Dieter Maurer wrote:

  Allen Schmidt Sr. wrote at 2009-8-4 13:45 -0400:
  
  
...
In the ZMI, there are:

/session_folder/  ( a regular folder )
   session_data  ( Transient Object Container )

/session_data_manager ( Session Data Manager )


All the parts seem right but its not workingsession writes wind up 
as anonymous transactions in the main ZODB.

Any ideas?

  
  
Verify that "session_folder" is a mount point and not a regular
folder.

This is not trivial as a mount point, once mounted, tries hard to
become the mounted object (this happens in its "__of__" method).
You must avoid acquisition to check that it is indeed a mount point.
One way is to use "app._p_activate(); app.__dict__['session_folder']".
This must return a mount point, not a folder.
  

I verified using your process that it is indeed just a folder. So I
deleted the session_folder in the root and then tried to add a ZODB
mount point in the root and it showed the session_folder was ready to
be created. I made sure that option was checked and clicked Ok. It
reloaded the root folder and the new session_folder was there, but it
still seems like it is just a regular folder and does not identify
itself as a mount point. I also added the session_data object into that
folder as a Transient Object Container as it was before.

Does the session_data_manager that points to that session_data folder
also have to be removed in this process? Could be holding it up somehow?


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Re: [Zope] Reconnection session_data to own Session.fs storage

2009-08-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Allen Schmidt Sr. wrote at 2009-8-4 13:45 -0400:
> ...
>In the ZMI, there are:
>
>/session_folder/  ( a regular folder )
>session_data  ( Transient Object Container )
>
>/session_data_manager ( Session Data Manager )
>
>
>All the parts seem right but its not workingsession writes wind up 
>as anonymous transactions in the main ZODB.
>
>Any ideas?

Verify that "session_folder" is a mount point and not a regular
folder.

This is not trivial as a mount point, once mounted, tries hard to
become the mounted object (this happens in its "__of__" method).
You must avoid acquisition to check that it is indeed a mount point.
One way is to use "app._p_activate(); app.__dict__['session_folder']".
This must return a mount point, not a folder.



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Re: [Zope] Reconnection session_data to own Session.fs storage

2009-08-04 Thread Allen Schmidt Sr.
Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Allen Schmidt Sr. wrote at 2009-3-5 10:34 -0500:
>   
>> Somehow, and not sure how, our session_data objects got deleted. No one 
>> admits doing it so no idea what happened.
>> I recreated the objects with the same IDs and even setup the ZODB mount 
>> point to point to the right parts. But our SESSION calls won't write the 
>> the separate Session.fs storage and it writes every SESION usage to our 
>> main Data.fs as an anon transaction.
>>
>> We are on 2.8.10 running ZEO on one server and 5 zope clients on two 
>> other servers. The Session.fs file sits along with the Data.fs file but 
>> never gets used.
>>
>> Any idea how to reconnect the parts again?
>> 
>
> The so called "session_data_manager" tells Zope where the
> "session_data" is located.
>
> Apparently, your "session_data_manager" does not look at
> the place of your mount point or your mount point does not work/is not
> active.
>
> First verify the "session_data_manager" configuration (this easy -- look
> in the ZMI).
> If this is correct, verify the mount point.
> That is not so easy. The best way is to start an interactive
> Python interpreter ("bin/zopectl debug" on *nix).
> Then use
>
>  folder = app.unrestrictedTraverse('path_to_folder_containing_the_mount')
>  folder._p_activate() # load the folder
>  folder.__dict__['Id_of_your_mount_point']
>
> You should see an "ZODBMountPoint" (or something along this lines).
>
> If you really see a mount point, verify its configuration
> (that's easy again -- thus, you can do that before the more
> difficult step): is the mount point really in the storage you want?
I completely missed this response.
Still having this issue so going back over this again.
Can you identify which things and where for the items above?
  path_to_folder_containing_the_mount and ID_of_your_mount_point

This is in the zope.conf:

 
   mount-point /session_folder
   
 server blahblah.com:
 storage session
 name session
 client session
 var $INSTANCE/var
   
 


This is in the zeo.conf:


  path $INSTANCE/var/Session.fs



In the ZMI, there are:

/session_folder/  ( a regular folder )
session_data  ( Transient Object Container )

/session_data_manager ( Session Data Manager )


All the parts seem right but its not workingsession writes wind up 
as anonymous transactions in the main ZODB.

Any ideas?
Thanks!
-Allen
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Re: [Zope] Reconnection session_data to own Session.fs storage

2009-03-17 Thread Allen Schmidt Sr.
I ran the debug to verify the mount point and got this:

 >>> folder.__dict__['session_data']

 >>>


And in the session_folder object in the root, the session_data objects 
shows as a TransientObjectContainer and not a ZODB Mount Point.



Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Allen Schmidt Sr. wrote at 2009-3-5 10:34 -0500:
>> Somehow, and not sure how, our session_data objects got deleted. No one 
>> admits doing it so no idea what happened.
>> I recreated the objects with the same IDs and even setup the ZODB mount 
>> point to point to the right parts. But our SESSION calls won't write the 
>> the separate Session.fs storage and it writes every SESION usage to our 
>> main Data.fs as an anon transaction.
>>
>> We are on 2.8.10 running ZEO on one server and 5 zope clients on two 
>> other servers. The Session.fs file sits along with the Data.fs file but 
>> never gets used.
>>
>> Any idea how to reconnect the parts again?
> 
> The so called "session_data_manager" tells Zope where the
> "session_data" is located.
> 
> Apparently, your "session_data_manager" does not look at
> the place of your mount point or your mount point does not work/is not
> active.
> 
> First verify the "session_data_manager" configuration (this easy -- look
> in the ZMI).
> If this is correct, verify the mount point.
> That is not so easy. The best way is to start an interactive
> Python interpreter ("bin/zopectl debug" on *nix).
> Then use
> 
>  folder = app.unrestrictedTraverse('path_to_folder_containing_the_mount')
>  folder._p_activate() # load the folder
>  folder.__dict__['Id_of_your_mount_point']
> 
> You should see an "ZODBMountPoint" (or something along this lines).
> 
> If you really see a mount point, verify its configuration
> (that's easy again -- thus, you can do that before the more
> difficult step): is the mount point really in the storage you want?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Zope] Reconnection session_data to own Session.fs storage

2009-03-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Allen Schmidt Sr. wrote at 2009-3-5 10:34 -0500:
>Somehow, and not sure how, our session_data objects got deleted. No one 
>admits doing it so no idea what happened.
>I recreated the objects with the same IDs and even setup the ZODB mount 
>point to point to the right parts. But our SESSION calls won't write the 
>the separate Session.fs storage and it writes every SESION usage to our 
>main Data.fs as an anon transaction.
>
>We are on 2.8.10 running ZEO on one server and 5 zope clients on two 
>other servers. The Session.fs file sits along with the Data.fs file but 
>never gets used.
>
>Any idea how to reconnect the parts again?

The so called "session_data_manager" tells Zope where the
"session_data" is located.

Apparently, your "session_data_manager" does not look at
the place of your mount point or your mount point does not work/is not
active.

First verify the "session_data_manager" configuration (this easy -- look
in the ZMI).
If this is correct, verify the mount point.
That is not so easy. The best way is to start an interactive
Python interpreter ("bin/zopectl debug" on *nix).
Then use

 folder = app.unrestrictedTraverse('path_to_folder_containing_the_mount')
 folder._p_activate() # load the folder
 folder.__dict__['Id_of_your_mount_point']

You should see an "ZODBMountPoint" (or something along this lines).

If you really see a mount point, verify its configuration
(that's easy again -- thus, you can do that before the more
difficult step): is the mount point really in the storage you want?



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