Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-06 Thread Harald Ragger

Jason Spisak asked:
 Do you mean that zope wouldn't restart? Even if you restarted the server?

Yes, zope didnt restart:-(  but i'm not sure if its a problem with zope or
just with the ms-cluster server.



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Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-05 Thread Harald Ragger

Jason, Rob:

Ive just seen your mails, and thought uuups!
One of my customers is using zope (2.1.4; ms cluster server; nt4 basis).
Zope has been running fine for more than three months, but on 1st of June it
crashed, and didn't came up again (no response from server even the zope
services seemed to be up and running). every minute or so, we got the
following message in the event-view: restarting zope.
The only chance I saw to bring Zope up again, was to reinstall the whole
thing, and use the backed up Data.fs file.
So far so good, its now running again, all data is ok, nothing lost.
But:
whats the reason for this? i simply have no idea (logs didnt show anything
relevant as far as i understand). why i thought uups, was because of the
same time this happend to me as to you (you also use 2.1.4). could it be a
problem with 2.1.4? should we consider to upgrade to 2.1.6?

regards
Harald

- Original Message -
From: "Jason Spisak" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


 Rob Sporleder writes:

  The shell was on my local machine...
 

 That's the same as tryinga browser for network purposes.  Can you try
 bringing up a shell on the server next time and try a wget
 http://localhost:8080, and see if it returns anything.  If so, the Zope is
 fine and it's that other stuff, like network cards etc...

  BigBrother is the monitoring software we use. The client is installed on
the
  same server as Zope.
 
  When viewing the log files there were no connections made by BigBrother
  (checking for http connections). However, there were many hits from
outside
  IP's.
 
  Thanks,
  Rob
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:17 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
 
 
  Rob Sporleder writes:
 
   It was the command line within the shell.
 
  Was it the shell on the 'server' serving zope or a shell on your local
  admin machine?
 
  Actually, I've found something
   that's interesting...
  
   The system clock is an hour slow.
 
  They get behind easily if your not using an time server somewhere.
 
  The logs are written 6 hours ahead.
 
  I have no idea on that.
 
  I
   greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no
  BigBrother
 
  Is BigBrother the Zope server?
 
   entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site
seemed
  to
   go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful
hits
  to
   the site.
 
  What told you there were successful hits? The Zope log?  If
understanding
  you, you are seeing confilcting things in 2 logs. One log says there was
  successfull hit, and the other shows nothing for that time.  Is this
close?
 
  
   Rob Sporleder writes:
  
All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't
checked
  if
   I
can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite.
However, I
   did
try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
   
  
   Was it the command line on the server?
   from the server shell:
  
   $wget http://localhost:8080
  
   I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure
it's
   Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.
  
-Original Message-
From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going
down)
   
   
Rob Sporleder:
   
 I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity
twice
  on
 Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X
minutes
   so
we
 wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the
  cronjob
   on
 Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when
it
   went
 down three times in 30 minutes.

 Thanks,
 Rob

   
Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
   connectivity?
 If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access
it?
http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Jason
 Spisak
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability


 Rob Sporleder:

  For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server
  three
 times
  last night.

 When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you
back
  a
 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just
spinning
it's
 wheels?  If it was the latter, how lo

Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-05 Thread Jason Spisak

Harald Ragger writes:

 Jason, Rob:
 
 Ive just seen your mails, and thought uuups!
 One of my customers is using zope (2.1.4; ms cluster server; nt4 basis).
 Zope has been running fine for more than three months, but on 1st of June it
 crashed, and didn't came up again (no response from server even the zope
 services seemed to be up and running). every minute or so, we got the
 following message in the event-view: restarting zope.

Do you mean that zope wouldn't restart? Even if you restarted the server?

 The only chance I saw to bring Zope up again, was to reinstall the whole
 thing, and use the backed up Data.fs file.
 So far so good, its now running again, all data is ok, nothing lost.
 But:
 whats the reason for this? i simply have no idea (logs didnt show anything
 relevant as far as i understand). 
why i thought uups, was because of the
 same time this happend to me as to you (you also use 2.1.4). could it be a
 problem with 2.1.4? should we consider to upgrade to 2.1.6?
 

It's worth a shot.  I don't have any installations running on 2.1.4.  Just
2.1.1 and 2.1.6.

Jason Spisak
CIO
HireTechs.com
6151 West Century Boulevard
Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

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Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-02 Thread Jason Spisak

Rob Sporleder writes:

 It was the command line within the shell. 

Was it the shell on the 'server' serving zope or a shell on your local
admin machine?

Actually, I've found something
 that's interesting...
 
 The system clock is an hour slow. 

They get behind easily if your not using an time server somewhere. 

The logs are written 6 hours ahead. 

I have no idea on that.

I
 greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no BigBrother

Is BigBrother the Zope server?

 entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site seemed to
 go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful hits to
 the site.  

What told you there were successful hits? The Zope log?  If understanding
you, you are seeing confilcting things in 2 logs. One log says there was
successfull hit, and the other shows nothing for that time.  Is this close?

 
 Rob Sporleder writes:
 
  All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked if
 I
  can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I
 did
  try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
 
 
 Was it the command line on the server?
 from the server shell:
 
 $wget http://localhost:8080
 
 I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
 Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
 
 
  Rob Sporleder:
 
   I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
   Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes
 so
  we
   wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob
 on
   Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it
 went
   down three times in 30 minutes.
  
   Thanks,
   Rob
  
 
  Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
 connectivity?
   If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
  http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
   Spisak
   Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
  
  
   Rob Sporleder:
  
For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
   times
last night.
  
   When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
   'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
  it's
   wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did
 get
   a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
  
   I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
   processes
are still running and everything looks normal except for the
  connectivity
problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
  haven't
found anything.
   
  
   This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since
  you
   noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
  
Here are some specifics about our setup...
   
version of python:
1.5.2
   
operating system:
Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
   
services running on machine:
MySQL
2 instances of Zope
Python
   
machine specifics:
   
CPU: 0.04
MEM: 31M of 512M
Swap: 528688K free
Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
   
version of Zope:
2.1.4
   
 
  Jason Spisak
  CIO
  HireTechs.com
  6151 West Century Boulevard
  Suite 900
  Los Angeles, CA 90045
  P. 310.665.3444
  F. 310.665.3544
 
  Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email
  address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my
  permission.  Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will
  result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for
  repeats.
 
 
 
 Jason Spisak
 CIO
 HireTechs.com
 6151 West Century Boulevard
 Suite 900
 Los Angeles, CA 90045
 P. 310.665.3444
 F. 310.665.3544
 
 Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email
 address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my
 permission.  Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will
 result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for
 repeats.
 


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CIO
HireTechs.com
6151 West Century Boulevard
Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email
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RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-02 Thread Rob Sporleder

The shell was on my local machine...

BigBrother is the monitoring software we use. The client is installed on the
same server as Zope.

When viewing the log files there were no connections made by BigBrother
(checking for http connections). However, there were many hits from outside
IP's.

Thanks,
Rob

-Original Message-
From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


Rob Sporleder writes:

 It was the command line within the shell.

Was it the shell on the 'server' serving zope or a shell on your local
admin machine?

Actually, I've found something
 that's interesting...

 The system clock is an hour slow.

They get behind easily if your not using an time server somewhere.

The logs are written 6 hours ahead.

I have no idea on that.

I
 greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no
BigBrother

Is BigBrother the Zope server?

 entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site seemed
to
 go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful hits
to
 the site.

What told you there were successful hits? The Zope log?  If understanding
you, you are seeing confilcting things in 2 logs. One log says there was
successfull hit, and the other shows nothing for that time.  Is this close?


 Rob Sporleder writes:

  All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked
if
 I
  can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I
 did
  try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
 

 Was it the command line on the server?
 from the server shell:

 $wget http://localhost:8080

 I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
 Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.

  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
 
 
  Rob Sporleder:
 
   I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice
on
   Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes
 so
  we
   wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the
cronjob
 on
   Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it
 went
   down three times in 30 minutes.
  
   Thanks,
   Rob
  
 
  Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
 connectivity?
   If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
  http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jason
   Spisak
   Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
  
  
   Rob Sporleder:
  
For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server
three
   times
last night.
  
   When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back
a
   'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
  it's
   wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did
 get
   a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
  
   I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
   processes
are still running and everything looks normal except for the
  connectivity
problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
  haven't
found anything.
   
  
   This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.
Since
  you
   noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
  
Here are some specifics about our setup...
   
version of python:
1.5.2
   
operating system:
Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
   
services running on machine:
MySQL
2 instances of Zope
Python
   
machine specifics:
   
CPU: 0.04
MEM: 31M of 512M
Swap: 528688K free
Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
   
version of Zope:
2.1.4
   
 
  Jason Spisak
  CIO
  HireTechs.com
  6151 West Century Boulevard
  Suite 900
  Los Angeles, CA 90045
  P. 310.665.3444
  F. 310.665.3544
 
  Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email
  address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my
  permission.  Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will
  result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for
  repeats.
 


 Jason Spisak
 CIO
 HireTechs.com
 6151 West Century Boulevard
 Suite 900
 Los Angeles, CA 90045
 P. 310.665.3444
 F. 310.665.3544

 Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B

Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-02 Thread Jason Spisak

Rob Sporleder writes:

 The shell was on my local machine...
 

That's the same as tryinga browser for network purposes.  Can you try
bringing up a shell on the server next time and try a wget
http://localhost:8080, and see if it returns anything.  If so, the Zope is
fine and it's that other stuff, like network cards etc...

 BigBrother is the monitoring software we use. The client is installed on the
 same server as Zope.
 
 When viewing the log files there were no connections made by BigBrother
 (checking for http connections). However, there were many hits from outside
 IP's.
 
 Thanks,
 Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:17 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
 
 
 Rob Sporleder writes:
 
  It was the command line within the shell.
 
 Was it the shell on the 'server' serving zope or a shell on your local
 admin machine?
 
 Actually, I've found something
  that's interesting...
 
  The system clock is an hour slow.
 
 They get behind easily if your not using an time server somewhere.
 
 The logs are written 6 hours ahead.
 
 I have no idea on that.
 
 I
  greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no
 BigBrother
 
 Is BigBrother the Zope server?
 
  entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site seemed
 to
  go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful hits
 to
  the site.
 
 What told you there were successful hits? The Zope log?  If understanding
 you, you are seeing confilcting things in 2 logs. One log says there was
 successfull hit, and the other shows nothing for that time.  Is this close?
 
 
  Rob Sporleder writes:
 
   All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked
 if
  I
   can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I
  did
   try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
  
 
  Was it the command line on the server?
  from the server shell:
 
  $wget http://localhost:8080
 
  I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
  Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
  
  
   Rob Sporleder:
  
I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice
 on
Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes
  so
   we
wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the
 cronjob
  on
Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it
  went
down three times in 30 minutes.
   
Thanks,
Rob
   
  
   Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
  connectivity?
If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
   http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jason
Spisak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
   
   
Rob Sporleder:
   
 For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server
 three
times
 last night.
   
When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back
 a
'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
   it's
wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did
  get
a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
   
I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
 anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
processes
 are still running and everything looks normal except for the
   connectivity
 problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
   haven't
 found anything.

   
This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.
 Since
   you
noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
   
 Here are some specifics about our setup...

 version of python:
 1.5.2

 operating system:
 Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)

 services running on machine:
 MySQL
 2 instances of Zope
 Python

 machine specifics:

 CPU: 0.04
 MEM: 31M of 512M
 Swap: 528688K free
 Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
 Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks

 version of Zope:
 2.1.4

  
   Jason Spisak
   CIO
   HireTechs.com
   6151 West Century Boulevard
   Suite 900
   Los Angeles, CA 90045
   P. 310.665.3444
   F. 310.665.3544
  
   Under US Code

RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-01 Thread Marcus Collins

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Sporleder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 31 May 2000 21:55
 To: Jason Spisak
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope 
 going down)
 
 All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I 
 haven't checked if I can get to it using http://localhost. The 
 server is offsite. However, I did try an http get from the command 
 line and it did not respond.

Hi!

I had similar problems some time ago (which have not been entirely resolved
-- I'm still trying to tie them down -- but now seem to be less frequent),
which seemed to be related to particular page accesses. Are you able to
identify from your logs any pages/methods that have repeatedly been called
prior to Zope going down?

See the Wiki at:
http://www.zope.org/Members/tseaver/Projects/HighlyAvailableZope/TwistingInT
heWindProblems

and take a look at DiagnosingHangProblems for some suggestions. Perhaps you
could post the details of your own situation there as well?

hth,

-- Marcus

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Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-05-31 Thread Jason Spisak

Rob Sporleder:

 I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
 Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes so we
 wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob on
 Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it went
 down three times in 30 minutes.
 
 Thanks,
 Rob
 

Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost connectivity?
 If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it? 
http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
 Spisak
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
 
 
 Rob Sporleder:
 
  For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
 times
  last night.
 
 When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning it's
 wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did get
 a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
 
 I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
  anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
 processes
  are still running and everything looks normal except for the connectivity
  problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I haven't
  found anything.
 
 
 This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since you
 noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
 
  Here are some specifics about our setup...
 
  version of python:
  1.5.2
 
  operating system:
  Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
 
  services running on machine:
  MySQL
  2 instances of Zope
  Python
 
  machine specifics:
 
  CPU: 0.04
  MEM: 31M of 512M
  Swap: 528688K free
  Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
  Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
 
  version of Zope:
  2.1.4
 

Jason Spisak
CIO
HireTechs.com
6151 West Century Boulevard
Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

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RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-05-31 Thread Rob Sporleder

All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked if I
can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I did
try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


Rob Sporleder:

 I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
 Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes so
we
 wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob on
 Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it went
 down three times in 30 minutes.

 Thanks,
 Rob


Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost connectivity?
 If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
 Spisak
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability


 Rob Sporleder:

  For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
 times
  last night.

 When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
it's
 wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did get
 a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?

 I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
  anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
 processes
  are still running and everything looks normal except for the
connectivity
  problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
haven't
  found anything.
 

 This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since
you
 noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.

  Here are some specifics about our setup...
 
  version of python:
  1.5.2
 
  operating system:
  Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
 
  services running on machine:
  MySQL
  2 instances of Zope
  Python
 
  machine specifics:
 
  CPU: 0.04
  MEM: 31M of 512M
  Swap: 528688K free
  Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
  Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
 
  version of Zope:
  2.1.4
 

Jason Spisak
CIO
HireTechs.com
6151 West Century Boulevard
Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

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Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-05-31 Thread Jason Spisak

Rob Sporleder writes:

 All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked if I
 can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I did
 try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
 

Was it the command line on the server? 
from the server shell:

$wget http://localhost:8080

I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
 
 
 Rob Sporleder:
 
  I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
  Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes so
 we
  wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob on
  Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it went
  down three times in 30 minutes.
 
  Thanks,
  Rob
 
 
 Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost connectivity?
  If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
 http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
  Spisak
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
 
 
  Rob Sporleder:
 
   For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
  times
   last night.
 
  When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
  'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
 it's
  wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did get
  a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
 
  I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
   anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
  processes
   are still running and everything looks normal except for the
 connectivity
   problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
 haven't
   found anything.
  
 
  This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since
 you
  noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
 
   Here are some specifics about our setup...
  
   version of python:
   1.5.2
  
   operating system:
   Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
  
   services running on machine:
   MySQL
   2 instances of Zope
   Python
  
   machine specifics:
  
   CPU: 0.04
   MEM: 31M of 512M
   Swap: 528688K free
   Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
   Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
  
   version of Zope:
   2.1.4
  
 
 Jason Spisak
 CIO
 HireTechs.com
 6151 West Century Boulevard
 Suite 900
 Los Angeles, CA 90045
 P. 310.665.3444
 F. 310.665.3544
 
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HireTechs.com
6151 West Century Boulevard
Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

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RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-05-31 Thread Rob Sporleder

It was the command line within the shell. Actually, I've found something
that's interesting...

The system clock is an hour slow. The logs are written 6 hours ahead. I
greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no BigBrother
entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site seemed to
go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful hits to
the site.

--Rob

-Original Message-
From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 2:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


Rob Sporleder writes:

 All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked if
I
 can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I
did
 try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.


Was it the command line on the server?
from the server shell:

$wget http://localhost:8080

I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


 Rob Sporleder:

  I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
  Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes
so
 we
  wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob
on
  Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it
went
  down three times in 30 minutes.
 
  Thanks,
  Rob
 

 Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
connectivity?
  If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
 http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
  Spisak
  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
 
 
  Rob Sporleder:
 
   For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
  times
   last night.
 
  When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
  'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
 it's
  wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did
get
  a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
 
  I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
   anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
  processes
   are still running and everything looks normal except for the
 connectivity
   problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
 haven't
   found anything.
  
 
  This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since
 you
  noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
 
   Here are some specifics about our setup...
  
   version of python:
   1.5.2
  
   operating system:
   Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
  
   services running on machine:
   MySQL
   2 instances of Zope
   Python
  
   machine specifics:
  
   CPU: 0.04
   MEM: 31M of 512M
   Swap: 528688K free
   Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
   Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
  
   version of Zope:
   2.1.4
  

 Jason Spisak
 CIO
 HireTechs.com
 6151 West Century Boulevard
 Suite 900
 Los Angeles, CA 90045
 P. 310.665.3444
 F. 310.665.3544

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Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

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