Re: [Zope] ] installation problems with ztfy.webapp on fresh baked gentoo!

2013-07-18 Thread Christopher Lozinski
On 7/18/13 4:30 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote:

>> I am trying to install zope3 /ztfy webapp
>>
>> Why?

Well if we want to do zope 3/ bluebream development we have to start
somewhere.

When last I checked there is no blue bream release available.  There is
a nice ztfy release available. It has documentation for the installation.  It 
has a nice ZMI.  Thierry,
when he is not on summer vacation, provides great support.

It has quite a mature wiki.
wiki.ztfy.org

And so we thought it is a great starting point for zope 3/bluebream
development.

The problem is it is not installing.  buildout  calls
z3c.recipe.testrunner which dies. 

That was on Tamer's computer.  I had different problems with it. 

I guess we will dig in and debug it, but it goes against the grain.  It
would be so nice to just use it, without having to learn the details of
how it is implemented. 

Actually it is now clear to me what to do.  Read the docs on zc.buildout and 
distribute on pypi. 
Then read the docs in the source code.  Then add them to the list of link to 
docs at

zopache.com/Products

and

ZTFY.org/Products

Once we understand the details of what those packages do, it should be much 
easier to figure out how to debug the problem. 

Chris
http://zopache.com


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Re: [Zope] installation problems with ztfy.webapp on fresh baked gentoo!

2013-07-18 Thread Tamer Higazi
Why not?!

Before going on with this subject, what do you have in mind, and can you
help me getting rid of this problem?!


Please discussion only on Zope Mailinglist, no PM please.


Tamer



On 07/18/13 23:19, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> An off-list question:
> 
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>> Hi peeople!
>> I am trying to install zope3 /ztfy webapp
> 
> Why?
> 
> //Lennart
> 

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Re: [Zope] installation problems with ztfy.webapp on fresh baked gentoo!

2013-07-17 Thread Christopher Lozinski
> He installed "zc.builout" globally, and it was solved for him but not me.

I am the person he is speaking of.

I had the same problem.  It was  a few days ago.  I believe what fixed it is

#FIRST INSTALL BUILDOUT
easy_install zc.buildout

#Then run it.
buildout

# BASICALLY THE FOLLOWING DOES NOT WORK.
python bootstrap.py

Nor did my fix work for Tamer. 

I guess my larger question is what is going on here.  We used to use
setuptools.  Now it seems to call distribute. 
And that seems to have the bug.  It is ths massive chunk of code we are
sitting on top of, changes happen, and it is not clear who changed what, or
what depends on what.I really do not want to get in and debug
setuptools or distribute. 

What should we be doing in cases like this?   How does one work with
these massive code libraries?

Chris
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