Re: [Zope] recommend a provider

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Fischer
I've been using Zettai.net for a while now and they've been pretty
good. They've got all the basic stuff for minimal cost on the Shared
plans.  You can go with freezope.org, but I havent tried them, plus
they have a bunch of limitations being a free service.  At Zettai you
get Mysql or Postgresql and on the Shared plans all the products are
setup so you just start up and start working.

While I like Zettai, I have recently started using Unixshell.com and
will be moving all my hosting there eventually. However, you have to
be able to do *all* your own Linux mangement.  For me it's great
because of the full control I get (for cheap), but it might not be
good for newbies.  Unixshell.com is not a Zope hosting provider, they
are a VPS service, so you can run your own Zope server.  (BTW, they
are using Xen virtualization, and I am totally impressed!)

My 2 cents.
Greg

On 6/3/05, Dave Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 08:13:15AM -0400, fs1 wrote:
  Can someone recommend a zope enabled internet provider?
  Frank
 
 Here are several you can look into:
 
 - http://www.objectis.org/
 
 - http://www.zettai.net/
 
 - http://www.python-hosting.com/
 
 Which is right for you depends on what capabilities your need:
 
 - High volume?
 
 - Access to the ZMI?
 
 - Ability to install Zope Products?
 
 - Ability to implement external methods?
 
 - Access to a relational database?
 
 - Etc.
 
 Some Zope hosting providers offer a range of plans at different
 costs and with different capabilities.
 
 And, you can also look in this list of resources:
 
 http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZSP
 
 Also, of course, do a search for zope hosting in your favorite
 Web search tool.
 
 Dave
 
 --
 Dave Kuhlman
 http://www.rexx.com/~dkuhlman
 ___
 Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
 **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
 (Related lists -
  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
 


-- 
Greg Fischer
1st Byte Solutions
http://www.1stbyte.com
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] recommend a provider

2005-06-06 Thread TJ Stankus
 Can someone recommend a zope enabled internet provider? 

I highly recommend zettai.net. Very reliable, great tech support, and
they consistently give back to the Zope/Plone community.

-TJ
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] recommend a provider

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Fischer
I have the 64 MB account and I run Apache, Mysql, Firebird, and Zope.
(plus Courier mail)  If I run only apache, Zope, and Mysql, 64 MB
worked fine, but with mail and Firebird it's running about 20MB on the
swap now.  Of course, I setup Debian on it and omitted everything from
running that didnt need to be there.  Even tweeked Apache the best I
could to limit processes, but it's working great for me.

The only disadvantage to running Unixshell.com is that you are on your
own as far as management goes.  You have to do all the security and
setup yourself.  But they have this kick ass installer from the web
that sets up an image from your fav distro.  It's pretty sweet if you
like the control and dont mind spending the time to setup everything.

A big advantage that they have is, for a VPS solution, you arent
docked for running over your memory.  See, if I go to 80MB, it just
used some swap.  It's just like I had my own server with a fixed
amount of ram.  If I went with other VPS solutions, I would be charged
for using more memory.  And since I dont know what resources I might
need, that wouldnt work.

I've never ran Plone, so I dont know what is involved or what kind of
resource you would need.  I have a low traffic setup, but I have one
client that runs a billing/customer tracking Zope/mysql app with 4
users on it all day and I havent had any trouble. Best I can say is,
try it for a month.  It's only $15 - $20 to see if it will fit your
needs.

If you decide to go with them, send me an email and I'll give you a
few tips to get started as I was really confused at first.  (regarding
the remote console and ssh)  It's very cool what they have going, but
it's unmanaged and you have to be willing to run it yourself.  (they
manage the hardware and netowrk of course.)

On the other hand, Zettai.net has been great for me too.  I think they
have separate Plone hosting from their Zope hosting now.  They have
been very reliable and have good support.  Plus you dont have to do
any setup on the server itself, so you can be running quickly.  But,
again, if you like the total control, the Unixshell.com rocks.

Greg


On 6/6/05, Parra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greg,
 
 I saw their website, and average plan gives 96 to 256 of RAM.
 If you install Plone, isn't a little amount of RAM ?
 
 Thanks
 
 Marcello
 
  While I like Zettai, I have recently started using Unixshell.com and
  will be moving all my hosting there eventually. However, you have to
  be able to do *all* your own Linux mangement.  For me it's great
  because of the full control I get (for cheap), but it might not be
  good for newbies.  Unixshell.com is not a Zope hosting provider, they
  are a VPS service, so you can run your own Zope server.  (BTW, they
  are using Xen virtualization, and I am totally impressed!)
 
 ___
 Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
 **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
 (Related lists -
  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
 


-- 
Greg Fischer
1st Byte Solutions
http://www.1stbyte.com
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] recommend a provider

2005-06-06 Thread J Cameron Cooper

Also in the Zope hosting game is iMeme:

http://imeme.net/

--jcc
--
Building Websites with Plone
http://plonebook.packtpub.com
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] recommend a provider

2005-06-03 Thread Martin Koekenberg

Hello Frank,

Where do you want a zope provider and what do you expect from that 
provider ?

Martin Koekenberg

-Original 
Message-From: fs1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: zope@zope.org
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:13:15 -0400Subject: [Zope] recommend a 
provider
Can someone recommend a zope enabled internet 
provider?
Frank

___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] recommend a provider

2005-06-03 Thread Martin Koekenberg

I can offer you zope hosting in the Netherlands (Zwolle).We are 
just starting this service after good experiance with zope development foor 
ourselfs.

Martin
-Original 
Message-From: fs1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Martin Koekenberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:20:59 
-0400Subject: Re: [Zope] recommend a provider
I'm looking for one that would have enough 
modules so that I can create an online newspaper. As for the location, I 
dont think that matters...yes?
Frank

- Original Message - 

From: 
Martin Koekenberg 
To: 
zope@zope.org 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:16 
AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] recommend a 
provider

Hello Frank,

Where do you want a zope provider and what do you expect from that 
provider ?

Martin Koekenberg

-Original 
Message-From: fs1 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
zope@zope.orgDate: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:13:15 -0400Subject: 
[Zope] recommend a provider
Can someone recommend a zope enabled internet 
provider?
Frank



___Zope 
maillist - Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope** No cross posts 
or HTML encoding! **(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] recommend a provider

2005-06-03 Thread Dave Kuhlman
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 08:13:15AM -0400, fs1 wrote:
 Can someone recommend a zope enabled internet provider?
 Frank

Here are several you can look into:

- http://www.objectis.org/

- http://www.zettai.net/

- http://www.python-hosting.com/

Which is right for you depends on what capabilities your need:

- High volume?

- Access to the ZMI?

- Ability to install Zope Products?

- Ability to implement external methods?

- Access to a relational database?

- Etc.

Some Zope hosting providers offer a range of plans at different
costs and with different capabilities.

And, you can also look in this list of resources:

http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZSP

Also, of course, do a search for zope hosting in your favorite
Web search tool.

Dave

-- 
Dave Kuhlman
http://www.rexx.com/~dkuhlman
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )