Re: [Lightning-dev] [bitcoin-dev] On the scalability issues of onboarding millions of LN mobile clients

2020-05-08 Thread Braydon Fuller via Lightning-dev
On 5/6/20 9:07 PM, Keagan McClelland wrote: > I think that one of the solutions here is to have light clients choose > their full node tethers explicitly. Even if you think it is unrealistic to > have everyone run their own node (fwiw, I don’t), there is still a trust > model where

Re: [Lightning-dev] [bitcoin-dev] On the scalability issues of onboarding millions of LN mobile clients

2020-05-08 Thread Braydon Fuller via Lightning-dev
On 5/8/20 1:01 PM, Keagan McClelland wrote: >> The RPC interface in Bitcoin Core, and others, is not great for this >> because it exposes a lot of functionality that isn't necessary and >> introduces risks. > This is actually somewhat my point. If the RPC interface was g

Re: [Lightning-dev] [bitcoin-dev] On the scalability issues of onboarding millions of LN mobile clients

2020-05-08 Thread Braydon Fuller via Lightning-dev
On 5/5/20 5:31 PM, Olaoluwa Osuntokun via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Hi Antoine, > >> Even with cheaper, more efficient protocols like BIP 157, you may have a >> huge discrepancy between what is asked and what is offered. Assuming 10M >> light clients [0] each of them consuming

Re: [Lightning-dev] [bitcoin-dev] On the scalability issues of onboarding millions of LN mobile clients

2020-05-08 Thread Keagan McClelland
you cannot limit your exposure for serving something like bip157 filters without removing your own ability to make use of some of those same services. Keagan On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 1:51 PM Braydon Fuller wrote: > On 5/6/20 9:07 PM, Keagan McClelland wrote: > > > I think that one