[Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

2011-10-18 Thread Cedric Sodhi
, filtering, splitting and verifying data - FGDATA has, by today, successfully been split into individual repositories, comprising the respective planes and FGDATA core data. Again: === !!! === From the present day on, the development version of FGDATA NO LONGER CONTAINS ANY AIRPLANES - You will have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] File sizes in fgdata, clean up needed?

2011-03-19 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 18.03.11 20:00, schrieb ThorstenB: Indeed, fgdata/master is becoming way too big though. But we can only solve this by splitting our current repository - and then push the different parts to fresh git repositories. Splitting fgdata was planned anyway. The new --fg-aircraft options

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Geoff McLane
/fg20/fgdata$ dirsize .git Doing du -b -s .git... moment... Total of [.git] = 4,419,875,575 bytes (4.12GB) It seems a shame all the discussion I saw about somehow splitting this 4-5GB download came to nothing ;=(( It seems 'some' absolutely wanted to keep a single git command to get it ALL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

2011-10-18 Thread dave perry
successive days and nights branching, cloning, filtering, splitting and verifying data - FGDATA has, by today, successfully been split into individual repositories, comprising the respective planes and FGDATA core data. Again: === !!! === From the present day on, the development version

Re: [Flightgear-devel] File sizes in fgdata, clean up needed?

2011-03-18 Thread ThorstenB
though. But we can only solve this by splitting our current repository - and then push the different parts to fresh git repositories. Splitting fgdata was planned anyway. The new --fg-aircraft options was the first step to make this possible. I'm just not sure what the status of splitting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

2011-10-19 Thread Jari Häkkinen
I actually lost track of who is doing what in the splitting of fgdata but there is a tremendous response pointing out issues related to the split. I want to express support for the splitting team. I support the split if only for the reason that aircraft maintainers will get commit rights

[Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure

2011-09-17 Thread Cedric Sodhi
the very details of the split, which have not yet been determined. The general boundary conditions of the splitting process are the following: - FGDATA shall consist of everything which is essential for the binary to run and shall not hold any data which is specific to certain airports

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure

2011-09-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
opinions and discuss the very details of the split, which have not yet been determined. The general boundary conditions of the splitting process are the following: - FGDATA shall consist of everything which is essential for the binary to run and shall not hold any data which is specific

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting FGdata (again, but now for real)

2011-10-16 Thread ThorstenB
Am 16.10.2011 16:14, schrieb Gijs de Rooy: For some reason, this splitting seems to takes forever on Windows (like 25 minutes for the 744), while Jorg managed to split the F-f16 in 90 seconds on Linux! Jorg will run a script (being Cedric's script, or some homemade combination) to split all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting fgdata

2011-04-20 Thread Roland Häder
Hi, you can download my fgdata bundle from here [1]. You can (and should) verify it with provided hashes and signature (GPG). After that you can extract it with gitbundle (or so). The usage of that tool should be widely documented. Anyway, I like your idea (and many others here as well) because

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure

2011-09-18 Thread Citronnier - Alexis Bory
with the project or their respective opinions and discuss the very details of the split, which have not yet been determined. The general boundary conditions of the splitting process are the following: - FGDATA shall consist of everything which is essential for the binary to run and shall

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure

2011-09-18 Thread Cedric Sodhi
... And here is the script #!/bin/bash echo 'Splitting FGDATA in 10 Seconds - Press Ctrl-C to cancel!' echo ' WARNING ' echo 'Make _ABSOLUTELY SURE_ that you are in the right repository' echo 'Running this script in a wrong repository will have unpredictable' echo 'results!' echo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure

2011-09-18 Thread Cedric Sodhi
I'm afraid I attached the wrong version, here is the correct one. #!/bin/bash iodir=/tmp/fgsplit echo 'Splitting FGDATA in 10 Seconds - Press Ctrl-C to cancel!' echo ' WARNING ' echo 'Make _ABSOLUTELY SURE_ that you are in the right repository' echo 'Running this script in a wrong

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure

2011-09-18 Thread Cedric Sodhi
Hopefully the right version now. Had to add something. #!/bin/bash iodir=/tmp/fgsplit echo 'Splitting FGDATA in 10 Seconds - Press Ctrl-C to cancel!' echo ' WARNING ' echo 'Make _ABSOLUTELY SURE_ that you are in the right repository' echo 'Running this script in a wrong repository

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-24 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi Core (and the rest of the entire organism of course) Why not splitting up the Aircraft folder into hangars as collection of aircrafts as plug-ins, collection of big teams or small but heavy industries ? --- fgdata | Aircraft

[Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2012-02-17 Thread Heiko Schulz
/ not transparent rules for committing 2.) aircraft rating scheme and Download page 3.) apparently inconsequent handling when licences has been violated (intended/unintended) about 1.) We really need a splitting of FGdata! Even if FGdata is the place for developement I don't see the need to download 10GB

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData New Structure

2011-09-20 Thread Cedric Sodhi
#dornot2d=-d $iodir bare=--bare echo Splitting FGDATA in 10 Seconds - Press Ctrl-C to cancel! WARNINGS Make _ABSOLUTELY SURE_ that you are in the right repository Running this script in a wrong repository will have unpredictable results! Make sure to have $iodir mounted

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting fgdata

2011-04-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:17:35 +0200, Roland wrote in message 1303319855.23358.110.camel@quix0r: Hi, you can download my fgdata bundle from here [1]. You can (and should) verify it with provided hashes and signature (GPG). After that you can extract it with gitbundle (or so). The usage

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2011-10-16 Thread Alan Teeder
Flightgear already has such a system for scenery. You only download what you want, or need. Very few users need scenery for the whole world. Extending this concept to the bloated aircraft section of fgdata seems quite logical. I don´t think that anyone is talking about splitting apart

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT and FGDATA

2010-08-06 Thread dave perry
I am not seeing the slowdown. I just ran a simple script that updates simgear, flightgear source, and fgdata. I would estimate that the git pull origin run in fgdata took about 3 minutes. This performance has been typical for me. I ran System Monitor (F12) during the fgdata pull

[Flightgear-devel] Splitting FGdata (again, but now for real)

2011-10-16 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi, I started splitting fgdata this morning. Created a project to store FlightGear aircraft repositories, under https://gitorious.org/flightgear-aircraft More details are available on the wiki: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git:_splitting_fgdata For some reason, this splitting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

2011-10-19 Thread Curtis Olson
, Jari Häkkinen wrote: I actually lost track of who is doing what in the splitting of fgdata but there is a tremendous response pointing out issues related to the split. I want to express support for the splitting team. I support the split if only for the reason that aircraft maintainers

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting FGdata (again, but now for real)

2011-10-16 Thread Gene Buckle
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi, I started splitting fgdata this morning. Created a project to store FlightGear aircraft repositories, under https://gitorious.org/flightgear-aircraft More details are available on the wiki: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT and FGDATA

2010-08-06 Thread Alan Teeder
-- From: Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net I had reached the same conclusion: it does conform to the observed fact that the slow-down has been faster than the increase in data. The splitting of the repo might not overcome the problem

[Flightgear-devel] Splitting fgdata

2011-04-20 Thread Cedric Sodhi
Dear Subscribers, I'm in the unfortunate situation that I want to build from GIT and therefore need the fgdata. But despite my rather good (20Mbs) connection it's impossible for me to obtain the whole repository from scratch. It's about 8.4 Gigabytes, I can rightfully assume one of the biggest

[Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-19 Thread ThorstenB
Hi FlightGear, there was little input on the fgdata split and few people speaking up when things were started. We do see a lot of responses now - many being in favor of the change, but also concerns about remaining issues. Indeed, setting up the new repo isn't as simple as it seemed initially

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT and FGDATA

2010-08-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
of changes, not just the size of the repo. I had reached the same conclusion: it does conform to the observed fact that the slow-down has been faster than the increase in data. The splitting of the repo might not overcome the problem if this is indeed the case. Meanwhile, Git-bash works here. No fancy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting fgdata

2011-04-20 Thread Roland Häder
Hi, will be fixed soon. Thanks. :-) Roland On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 23:05 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..should say: wget -c \ http://flightgear.mxchange.org/pub/fgfs/fgdata.bundle so the download can be resumed if it stalls or somesuch, rather than try wget the whole bundle into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting fgdata

2011-04-20 Thread Csaba Halász
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote: ..should say: wget -c \ http://flightgear.mxchange.org/pub/fgfs/fgdata.bundle so the download can be resumed if it stalls or somesuch, rather than try wget the whole bundle into fgdata.bundle.1, fgdata.bundle.2 because etc

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear aircraft repository

2011-10-18 Thread ThorstenB
account for far more than 50% of the time spent on creating FlightGear. It'd be extremely unfortunate to drop all this from the FG community project. And only being slightly provocative: if splitting FGDATA now turns toward a path of breaking up our FG aircraft - I'll rather propose to keep

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting fgdata

2011-04-20 Thread Roland Häder
Hi, I have updated my little website, plus the fgdata.bundle and all checksum files and signature. I will try to add a shell script to automatically recreate the bundle including all checksum files (signature is STRONGLY not recommended with automatism because you need give the server your

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Splitting fgdata

2011-04-20 Thread Cedric Sodhi
I appreciate your effort Roland. I hope this workarround doesn't take the momentum from the original endeavor, though. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:17:43AM +0200, Roland Häder wrote: Hi, I have updated my little website, plus the fgdata.bundle and all checksum files and signature. I will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:07:21 -0600, Ron wrote in message 201106150807.21230.w...@jentronics.com: On Wednesday 15 June 2011 07:36:51 Csaba Halász wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: the final GUI bits for a new feature are now in fgdata - the last

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-25 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:18:36 +0200 HB-GRAL flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Hi Core (and the rest of the entire organism of course) Why not splitting up the Aircraft folder into hangars as collection of aircrafts as plug-ins, collection of big teams or small but heavy industries ? IMHO

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

2011-10-19 Thread Curtis Olson
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Martin Spott wrote: Curtis Olson wrote: Anyone have any good ideas? Yes, revert the dissection of 'fgdata' until a practical solution is in place which doesn't require lots of people to waste extra time just to achieve the previous state which simply

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question about snow and rain norm property

2010-12-21 Thread Torsten Dreyer
, yes or no Won't it be better to get it exposed only once. The idea behind splitting these is to have the properties /environment/metar/foobar represent the weather as reported in the corresponding METAR and the properties /environment/barbaz represent the weather at you current position

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Question about snow and rain norm property

2010-12-22 Thread henri orange
. The idea behind splitting these is to have the properties /environment/metar/foobar represent the weather as reported in the corresponding METAR and the properties /environment/barbaz represent the weather at you current position. These two are not necessarily the same. Currently, the values flow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

2011-10-19 Thread Curtis Olson
of the data tree is pushing 10Gb. My understanding is that splitting off the aircraft wouldn't reduce the total size, but would allow us to deal with smaller chunks and optionally cherry pick just the parts we want. But if the result is that it is an immense effort or very difficult to get all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread ThorstenB
at LinuxTag (surprise, Mathias was there). I'm absolutely in favour of splitting things up - Mathias and Martin know this from LT. Yet, I did not see any contradiction with integrating terrasync. I would like more subsystems being converted into separate libraries and being capable of running them