Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-20 Thread Grant
How about hardened? Does ZFS have any problems interacting with grsecurity or a hardened profile? Has anyone tried hardened and ZFS together? - Grant

[gentoo-user] Gentoo installation on a ZFS Root

2013-09-18 Thread Edward Martinez
Hello, If anybody is interested this howto appears it explains how to Install Gentoo on ZFS Root. https://github.com/ryao/zfs-overlay/blob/master/zfs-install

[gentoo-user] Failure of zfs-kmod with 3.13.* kernel

2014-02-08 Thread Scott Ellis
When trying to build zfs-kmod against a a 3.13.[0|1|2] kernel, spl works fine, but zfs fails. It looks like the issue is that the configure script isn't doing quite the right check for bdi_setup_and_register, so HAVE_BDI_SETUP_AND_REGISTER doesn't get defined, and then there's a mismatch

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-18 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 18.09.2013 09:26, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: rootfs on ZFS or everything on ZFS would have advantages, sure. No partitioning at all, resizeable zfs-filesystems for everything, checksums for everything ... you name it. In my case I have to decide until Sep, 25th - installation day

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
Besides performance, are there any drawbacks to ZFS compared to ext4? How about hardened? Does ZFS have any problems interacting with grsecurity or a hardened profile? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] why zfs and friends want to update to 9999?

2017-10-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:54:05 AM CEST John Covici wrote: > Hi. In my latest world update, I have sys-fs/zfs and friends at > 0.7.1 and they all want to update to . Does anyone know why this > should be -- normally is not in the normal update sequence. >

[gentoo-user] LiveDVD with ZFS?

2013-01-08 Thread James
livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221 http://www.gentoo.org/news/20121221-livedvd.xml Since I have a new interest in ZFS, has anyone tried the latest liveDVD with ZFS? Any tips on a quick and dirty way to install off of this liveDVD with ZFS would be appreciated: dd onto a drive? James

[gentoo-user] Re: LiveDVD with ZFS?

2013-01-08 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: Any tips on a quick and dirty way to install off of this liveDVD with ZFS would be appreciated: dd onto a drive? From a usbstick # dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb Will this work? It presupposes that I set up a sata drive (stb) with ZFS. Any guidelines

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID+LVM, since ZFS best practice is to set your hardware raid controller

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
I have to set up a server w/ 8x 1TB in about 2 weeks and consider ZFS as well, at least for data. So root-fs would go onto 2x 1TB hdds with conventional partitioning and something like ext4. Is a layout like this with the data on ZFS and the root-fs on ext4 a better choice than ZFS all around

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-18 Thread Grant
turn off readahead. ZFS' own readahead and the kernel's clash - badly. Turn off kernel's readahead for a visible performance boon. You are probably not talking about ZFS readahead but about the ARC. which does prefetching. So yes. I'm taking notes on this so I want to clarify, when using ZFS

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Fighting bit rot

2013-01-09 Thread walt
On 01/08/2013 08:40 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013, 19:11:19 schrieb James: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerarmin at googlemail.com writes: Comments/guidance on ZFS vs BTFRS are welcome. I never used ZFS; googling suggests lots of disdain for ZFS ? Maybe someone knows

[gentoo-user] ZFS is slow? readahead and zfs

2013-07-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hello, I am using zfs for a while now. I am not using it for / but for /var and my media collection. PORTDIR is /var/portage so portage files are on zfs too. This resulted in portage being incredible slow. eix-sync took ages, emerge - auv world gave you enought time to prepare a meal. And eat

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: beegfs goes opensource!

2016-02-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/26/2016 12:04 PM, James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Excellent point about the license. Did the license stop zfs folks > from enjoying zfs? I know the zfs license stops some commercial folks > from deploy/using zfs. And zfs is not a routine choice in the inst

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: beegfs goes opensource!

2016-02-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Tanstaafl <tansta...@libertytrek.org> wrote: > On 2/26/2016 12:04 PM, James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> Excellent point about the license. Did the license stop zfs folks >> from enjoying zfs? I know the zfs license stops so

[gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
I'm convinced I need 3-disk RAID1 so I can lose 2 drives and keep running. I'd also like to stripe for performance, resulting in RAID10. It sounds like most hardware controllers do not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. Can I operate ZFS RAID without a hardware RAID controller

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-20 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:20:53AM -0700, Grant wrote: How about hardened? Does ZFS have any problems interacting with grsecurity or a hardened profile? Has anyone tried hardened and ZFS together? Hi, I did - I had some problems, but I'm not sure if they were caused by the combination

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-20 Thread Grant
How about hardened? Does ZFS have any problems interacting with grsecurity or a hardened profile? Has anyone tried hardened and ZFS together? I did - I had some problems, but I'm not sure if they were caused by the combination of ZFS and hardened. There were some issues updating kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID

[gentoo-user] ZFS wiki confusion

2013-03-31 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Anyone got ZFS working on their Gentoo install? I'm contemplating it, but the wiki[1] confuses me a bit. Specifically, section '3 Installing into the kernel directory (for static installs)' states: This will generate the needed files, and copy them into the kernel sources directory. root # (cd

Re: [gentoo-user] Install on ZFS

2017-08-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:31 AM, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote: > > I would like to know which cd has zfs support. I could not find one, > so I wrote some catalyst stuff to make an install cd with zfs support, > but it would be nice if I would not have to do that, a

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-21 Thread Pandu Poluan
not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. Can I operate ZFS RAID without a hardware RAID controller? From a RAID perspective only, is ZFS a better choice than conventional software RAID? ZFS seems to have many excellent features and I'd like to ease into them slowly

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR partition

2014-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/09/2014 15:13, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: ZFS is the most resilient filesystem I've ever used, you can through the bucket and kitchen sink at it and it really doesn't give a shit (it just deals

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-21 Thread thegeezer
On 09/17/2013 08:20 AM, Grant wrote: I'm convinced I need 3-disk RAID1 so I can lose 2 drives and keep running. I'd also like to stripe for performance, resulting in RAID10. It sounds like most hardware controllers do not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. Can I operate

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: beegfs goes opensource!

2016-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:48:21 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Excellent point about the license. Did the license stop zfs folks > > from enjoying zfs? I know the zfs license stops some commercial folks > > from deploy/using zfs. And zfs is not a routine choice in the > > inst

Re: [gentoo-user] experiences with zfsonlinux?

2012-12-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 30. Dezember 2012, 15:22:58 schrieb Michael Hampicke: Am 30.12.2012 15:07, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: Set both mountpoints as legacy and put them into fstab - I know I could zfs deal with that, but I feel more comfortable that way. Howdy Volker, that's a good idea

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:02:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Eh? *Who* has ZFS? Certainly not the linux kernel. FreeBSD You can get ZFS on Linux with relative ease, you just have to build it yourself. Distros feel they can't redistribute that code. emerge zfs works too :) I really

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 19.09.2013 06:47, schrieb Grant: turn off readahead. ZFS' own readahead and the kernel's clash - badly. Turn off kernel's readahead for a visible performance boon. You are probably not talking about ZFS readahead but about the ARC. which does prefetching. So yes. I'm taking notes

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 5:06 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: You wrote that modules become derivatives of the Linux kernel and this is the same as writing ZFS would become a kernel derivative. Just for clarification, I was talking about compiling ZFS support

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread covici
-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. Can I operate ZFS RAID without a hardware RAID controller? From a RAID perspective only, is ZFS a better choice than conventional software RAID? ZFS seems to have many excellent features and I'd like to ease into them slowly (like an old man

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 17.09.2013 09:20, schrieb Grant: I'm convinced I need 3-disk RAID1 so I can lose 2 drives and keep running. I'd also like to stripe for performance, resulting in RAID10. It sounds like most hardware controllers do not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. Can I operate

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-18 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 18.09.2013 11:56, schrieb Joerg Schilling: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: turn off readahead. ZFS' own readahead and the kernel's clash - badly. Turn off kernel's readahead for a visible performance boon. You are probably not talking about ZFS readahead but about

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-18 Thread Grant
Interesting news related to ZFS: http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Main_Page I wonder if this will be added to the kernel at some point in the future? May even be their intention? I think the CDDL license is what's keeping ZFS out of the kernel, although some argue that it should be integrated

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS formating

2013-11-01 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:48 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Is the latest version of SystemRescue the best media to use to format disks with ZFS? Caveats? the latest gentoo live image has full zfs support on it -- Douglas J Hunley (doug.hun...@gmail.com) Twitter: @hunleyd

Re: [gentoo-user] why zfs and friends want to update to 9999?

2017-10-11 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 04:50:20 -0400, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:54:05 AM CEST John Covici wrote: > > Hi. In my latest world update, I have sys-fs/zfs and friends at > > 0.7.1 and they all want to update to . Does anyone know why this > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] why zfs and friends want to update to 9999?

2017-10-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:34:48 AM CEST John Covici wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 04:50:20 -0400, > > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:54:05 AM CEST John Covici wrote: > > > Hi. In my latest world update, I have sys-fs/zfs and friends at

Re: [gentoo-user] howto on setting up rootfs on ZFS?

2013-05-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:52:33 -0400, Douglas J Hunley wrote: I'm not even sure what boot media supports ZFS (system rescue cd doesn't, and my googling turns up a bunch of *bsd based media). Look at the modules link on the Rescue CD pages, it has a link to a ZFS module file. This includes

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:30:05 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: The licensing conflict means that would not be possible. You have the install the kernel source and then merge in the ZFS source yourself, it can't be done for you and distributed. Why do you believe this? ZFS id doubtlessly

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-13 4:00 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID+LVM, since

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-17 4:05 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: 2. When comparing performance of 1 (one) drive, of course ZFS will lose. But when you build a ZFS pool out of 3 pairs of mirrored drives, throughput will increase significantly as ZFS has the ability to do 'load-balancing' among mirror

[gentoo-user] ZFS formating

2013-11-01 Thread James
Hello, So after readaing quite a bit about ZFS, I still have some simple question(s). Can you install ZFS on a single drive? Does that make sense or is it illogical/dumb to do so? Is the latest version of SystemRescue the best media to use to format disks with ZFS? Caveats? Last, after

[gentoo-user] Will ZFS clobber my MBR?

2014-01-22 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello, My / (root) lives on /dev/sdb1. My /dev/sda has no partitions and no data except for what I presume is the mbr written by lilo. [history: sdb is an SSD and I never wanted to use the slow sda] I have been playing with ZFS on a USB drive and I am ready to create a zpool on /dev/sda. ZFS

Re: [gentoo-user] howto on setting up rootfs on ZFS?

2013-05-22 Thread Robert David
Hi, I use grml livecd for various recovery/livecd purposes. I just add an script to my boot partition to compile current zfs. Since it is debian based it contains installation through aptitude. Robert. /boot/zfs # ls install_zfs* spl-0.6.1.tar.gz zfs_create zfs-0.6.1.tar.gz /boot/zfs

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-18 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 18.09.2013 06:11, schrieb Grant: I have to set up a server w/ 8x 1TB in about 2 weeks and consider ZFS as well, at least for data. So root-fs would go onto 2x 1TB hdds with conventional partitioning and something like ext4. Is a layout like this with the data on ZFS and the root-fs

Re: [gentoo-user] preserving zpool mountpoint on boot?

2015-09-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 13.09.2015 um 21:20 schrieb Nuno Magalhães: > Greetings, > > If i export/import a zpool, the altroot property is not preserved so > it always gets mounted at /. > > In /etc/init.d/zfs, the import line reads > $ZPOOL import -c $ZPOOL_CACHE -aN 2>/dev/null || true > so

[gentoo-user] ZFS Filesystem for Gentoo Fileserver

2016-01-07 Thread Ralf
ortant: I'd also like to use ZFS on linux as I experienced it to be rock solid on Linux. (Had really good experience with ZFS together with Proxmox, damn, ZFS really rocks!). But the problem's in the details: Encryption... In my opinion, encryption is not optional, it is mandatory. Afaik, ZFS has i

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/18/2010 11:49 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Why do you

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Walter Dnes
is a module, Gentoo would have to read the module off the disk to enable it to read the module off the disk... OOPS. This is a classic chicken and egg situation. On Solaris no problem with loadable modules - everything is dynamically loaded. ***YOU NEED A GRUB THAT UNDERSTANDS ZFS

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-15 Thread Grant
Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID+LVM, since ZFS best practice is to set your hardware raid controller

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR partition

2014-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/09/2014 15:13, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: ZFS is the most resilient filesystem I've ever used, you can through the bucket and kitchen

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
It looks like there are comprehensive ZFS Gentoo docs (http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS) but can anyone tell me from the real world about how much extra difficulty/complexity is added to installation and ongoing administration when choosing ZFS over ext4? Very very minimal. So minimal

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread covici
not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. Can I operate ZFS RAID without a hardware RAID controller? Yes. In fact, that's ZFS' preferred mode of operation (i.e., it handles all redundancy by itself). From a RAID perspective only, is ZFS a better choice than conventional

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm convinced I need 3-disk RAID1 so I can lose 2 drives and keep running. I'd also like to stripe for performance, resulting in RAID10. It sounds like most hardware controllers do not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/08/2013 23:37, Joerg Schilling wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:30:05 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: The licensing conflict means that would not be possible. You have the install the kernel source and then merge in the ZFS source yourself, it can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
ever run unchanged on Linux. If a kernel uses ZFS, you have to decide on whether the kernel is a derivative work of ZFS or whether just a collective work exists. _Using_ ZFS definitely does not make ZFS a derivative work. I never said it did. I was concentrating on those parts

Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo in a xen VM

2015-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:02 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes: On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 8:55 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Just why can't you? ZFS apparently can do such things --- yet what's the difference in performance of ZFS compared to hardware raid

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-26 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.atwrote: Am 26.08.2013 18:14, schrieb Pandu Poluan: Well... with a ZFS-backed storage, when you want to create a new VM, all you have to do is `zfs clone` ;-) Yes, I see those possibilities ;-) That system will run

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID+LVM, since ZFS best practice is to set your hardware raid controller

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
I'm convinced I need 3-disk RAID1 so I can lose 2 drives and keep running. I'd also like to stripe for performance, resulting in RAID10. It sounds like most hardware controllers do not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. Can I operate ZFS RAID without a hardware RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID+LVM, since ZFS best practice is to set your hardware raid controller

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID+LVM, since ZFS best practice is to set your hardware raid

[gentoo-user] Re: ZFS formating

2013-11-01 Thread James
Douglas J Hunley doug.hunley at gmail.com writes: the latest gentoo live image has full zfs support on it -- Douglas J Hunley (doug.hunley at gmail.com) livedvd-x86-amd64-32ul-20121221.iso Is what you are referring to? I suggested using SystemRescue, because I had to clean up (hack

Re: [gentoo-user] Will ZFS clobber my MBR?

2014-01-22 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 22.01.2014 10:01, schrieb Chris Stankevitz: Hello, My / (root) lives on /dev/sdb1. My /dev/sda has no partitions and no data except for what I presume is the mbr written by lilo. [history: sdb is an SSD and I never wanted to use the slow sda] I have been playing with ZFS on a USB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: beegfs goes opensource!

2016-02-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/28/2016 4:24 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 22:51:13 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> I recall a list conversation about this, explaining that it would be >>>> trivial for someone who knows how to do ebuilds, to have their

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one

[gentoo-user] experiences with zfsonlinux?

2012-12-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi, so in the Good/better/best filesystem for large, static video library? thread zfs was mentioned, since I just ordered 3 new hdd to replace the current 5 in my box (3 in raid5, 2 in raid1 configuration), I asked myself: instead of raid5+xfs or ext4 or whatever else that might be a sane

Re: [gentoo-user] experiences with zfsonlinux?

2012-12-30 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 30.12.2012 15:07, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: Set both mountpoints as legacy and put them into fstab - I know I could zfs deal with that, but I feel more comfortable that way. Howdy Volker, that's a good idea. For some reason - with the latest sys-fs/zfs upgrade (0.6.0_rc13) - I found

Re: [gentoo-user] Good/better/best filesystem for large, static video library?

2013-01-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2013, 15:38:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon: AFAIK, Oracle included encryption in ZFS v30 but this has not been released as opensource. The last OSS version released was 28. What this means to me is that devs could include disk-encryption but they probably won't have

[gentoo-user] Re: multiple installs

2013-02-11 Thread James
walt w41ter at gmail.com writes: The only obvious problem I can see is that grub2 will need zfs support if your /boot is going to be zfs. I don't recall all of the details, but at one point during the grub2 install you can tell it to pre-load the zfs module (and any other modules you may

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Marc Stürmer
for it depends on your performance needs and probably ZFS on Linux is not got to meet those - yet. It is still evolving. Of course benchmarks are static, real world usage is another cup of coffee. Besides performance, are there any drawbacks to ZFS compared to ext4? Well it only comes as kernel module

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:36:20 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: That said, if your kernel supports modules, it's a piece of cake to compile the ZFS modules on your own. @ryao has a zfs-overlay you can use to emerge ZFS as a module. It's also in the main portage tree. -- Neil Bothwick Get your

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-17 3:20 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like most hardware controllers do not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. ?? RAID 10 simply requires an even number of drives with a minimum of 4. So, you certainly can have a 6 disk RAID10 - I've got a system

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
like most hardware controllers do not support 6-disk RAID10 so ZFS looks very interesting. Can I operate ZFS RAID without a hardware RAID controller? From a RAID perspective only, is ZFS a better choice than conventional software RAID? ZFS seems to have many excellent features and I'd like

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: turn off readahead. ZFS' own readahead and the kernel's clash - badly. Turn off kernel's readahead for a visible performance boon. You are probably not talking about ZFS readahead but about the ARC. Jörg -- EMail:jo

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-19 Thread Dale
Grant wrote: Interesting news related to ZFS: http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Main_Page I wonder if this will be added to the kernel at some point in the future? May even be their intention? I think the CDDL license is what's keeping ZFS out of the kernel, although some argue that it should

Re: [gentoo-user] is zfs no longer compatible with systemd?

2015-10-08 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 08/10/2015 10:24, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > John Campbell <jdc@cox.net> wrote: > > > >> On 10/07/2015 11:51 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > >>> In trying to emerge sysf-fs/zfs toda

Re: [gentoo-user] is zfs no longer compatible with systemd?

2015-10-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/10/2015 10:24, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > John Campbell <jdc@cox.net> wrote: > >> On 10/07/2015 11:51 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >>> In trying to emerge sysf-fs/zfs today I get the following >>> [ebuild R *] sys-fs/zfs-::gentoo USE=

[gentoo-user] Install on ZFS

2017-08-15 Thread Grant
I'm trying to get started on my first Gentoo install on ZFS. My remote server is booted to a Gentoo LiveCD and I've SSH'ed in but it looks like the CD doesn't have ZFS tools: livecd ~ # zpool status -bash: zpool: command not found Can I pull this off from here or do I need to mail a different

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: btrfs raid 5/6

2017-12-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/12/17 15:07, Rich Freeman wrote: >> > Is that how ZFS works? >> > > I doubt it, hence why I wrote "most parity RAID systems seem to > operate just as you describe." So the OP needs to be aware that, if his file is smaller than the chunk size, then it

Re: [gentoo-user] Writing a bash script or thinking about it anyway.

2009-12-22 Thread Stroller
On 22 Dec 2009, at 15:36, Jesús Guerrero wrote: ... I have no serious experience with ZFS, it kind of turns me back the fact that it's a FUSE based fs, though it's certainly possible to use it even for a root system provided that your kernel can load the module at bootup ... ZFS

[gentoo-user] about sys-fs/zfs-fuse and qmerge

2010-03-13 Thread Harry Putnam
I need a little coaching on qmerge usage. I'm trying to emerge sys-fs/zfs-fuse. The merge fails on a known bug, a duplicate of another bug... 303623 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303623 In the comments... (#3) someone has asked to make the emerge once a specific file is edited

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 21:49, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LiveDVD with ZFS?

2013-01-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 19:45:57 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: Any tips on a quick and dirty way to install off of this liveDVD with ZFS would be appreciated: dd onto a drive? From a usbstick # dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Fighting bit rot

2013-01-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013, 19:11:19 schrieb James: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerarmin at googlemail.com writes: Comments/guidance on ZFS vs BTFRS are welcome. I never used ZFS; googling suggests lots of disdain for ZFS ? Maybe someone knows a good article or wiki discussion where the various

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Fighting bit rot

2013-01-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2013, 07:17:25 schrieb walt: On 01/08/2013 08:40 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013, 19:11:19 schrieb James: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerarmin at googlemail.com writes: Comments/guidance on ZFS vs BTFRS are welcome. I never used ZFS

[gentoo-user] howto on setting up rootfs on ZFS?

2013-05-20 Thread Douglas J Hunley
I used the existing wiki to get ZFS up and running on my system a few weeks ago and after getting familiar with it, beating it up a bit, and breaking it in as many different ways as I could envision, I think I'm happy with it. I'd now like to use it as my rootfs. I'm going to leave /boot

Re: [gentoo-user] howto on setting up rootfs on ZFS?

2013-05-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Look at the modules link on the Rescue CD pages, it has a link to a ZFS module file. This includes a script to rebuild the ISO including the ZFS modules, I've used it several times with success, the only thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 Aug 2013 08:06:13 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:02:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Eh? *Who* has ZFS? Certainly not the linux kernel. FreeBSD You can get ZFS on Linux with relative ease, you just have to build it yourself. Distros feel they can't

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:34:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? There are plenty of links on the zfsforlinux site. on Linux, not for Linux ... http://zfsonlinux.org

Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-09-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
to enable it to read the module off the disk... OOPS. This is a classic chicken and egg situation. On Solaris no problem with loadable modules - everything is dynamically loaded. You need a grub that understands ZFS and that gives a ZFS interface to the kernel to use before ZFS was loaded. Jörg

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-17 Thread Grant
Besides performance, are there any drawbacks to ZFS compared to ext4? do yourself three favours: use ECC ram. Lots of it. 16GB DDR3 1600 ECC ram cost you less than 170€. And it is worth it. ZFS showed me just how many silent corruptions can happen on a 'stable' system. Errors never seen

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 23:22:29 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just wondering if anyone experienced running ZFS on Gentoo finds this wiki article worthy of use: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS Yes, it is useful. However I have recently stopped using the option to built ZFS into the kernel as I ran

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS

2013-09-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting news related to ZFS: http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Main_Page I wonder if this will be added to the kernel at some point in the future? May even be their intention? I think the CDDL license is what's keeping ZFS out of the kernel, although

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)

2013-12-13 Thread hasufell
On 12/13/2013 08:21 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: What *is* so difficult about that? Nothing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Failure of zfs-kmod with 3.13.* kernel

2014-02-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 10:07:31 -0800, Scott Ellis wrote: When trying to build zfs-kmod against a a 3.13.[0|1|2] kernel, spl works fine, but zfs fails. It looks like the issue is that the configure script isn't doing quite the right check for bdi_setup_and_register, so

Re: [gentoo-user] Failure of zfs-kmod with 3.13.* kernel

2014-02-09 Thread Scott Ellis
Ah, I missed that bug report. Thanks for the pointer (and the workaround). On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 10:07:31 -0800, Scott Ellis wrote: When trying to build zfs-kmod against a a 3.13.[0|1|2] kernel, spl works fine, but zfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR partition

2014-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: ZFS is the most resilient filesystem I've ever used, you can through the bucket and kitchen sink at it and it really doesn't give a shit (it just deals with it :-) ) Nothing wrong with ZFS itself, but keep in mind

Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo in a xen VM

2015-01-10 Thread Rich Freeman
if done correctly. The LV would need to be the same size or larger, or else your filesystem will be truncated. How about ZFS as root file system? I'd rather create a pool over all the disks and create file systems within the pool than use something like ext4 to get the system to boot. I

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