If we have a wiki and want to prevent spam, I think the best solution is to
assign long random individual passwords personally.  Spammers actually will
fill out captchas, research Python questions, actually will join groups and
ask "what's the password?";  The gall I have seen from spammers of wiki is
extraordinary.

Background:  I hosted 20 wikis at a time once, and have been involved in
many wiki.  I've attended and helped conduct many wiki conferences.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
[email protected]> wrote:

> One nice thing about a wiki is that barrier to r try is really low for new
> folks adding content.
>
> Of course, that's why they are so easy to spam, too.
>
> Is there really no system that works ok for spam. Management ?
> - captcha
> - answer a question any pythonista should know?
>
> It seems some people do manage to keep wikis up...
>
> But if all the content is generated but only a couple core folks anyway,
> then no big deal.
>
> And we could be more pythonic and use Sphinx to generate the site.
>
> One other note: github does have a wiki, so we could use that for the
> pages we want it to be particularly easy to update: proposed meeting
> topics, that sort of thing.
>
> -CHB
>
> On May 1, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Mike Orr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The wiki is still down, partly because I forgot about it. The server
> problems ceased when the wiki was turned off, so I'm not inclined to turn
> it on again. I'll put up a static page with the next meeting info... as
> soon as we decide on a next meeting.
>
> I like Kevin's idea of some kind of version-control based, github-ish
> website to replace MoinMoin. We should have a Github account anyway to
> encourage more SeaPIG projects. However, I don't know enough about Github
> webhosting to know whether we want to commit our website to a third-party
> service which may limit what we can effectively do with it. I'm also not
> sure if I like its Markdown-based format. Markdown *is* becoming more and
> more widely used (a commercial publisher has even standardized on it), and
> I guess its syntax is the best of the wiki syntaxes and allows direct HTML
> snippets. So maybe it would be OK.
>
> It's ironic because a version-controlled content with some kind of script
> that converts it to a static HTML site is precisely what Linux Gazette
> used. We resisted a CMS until the end (it was the early 2000s after all),
> but now that several years have passed since its demise and newer paradigms
> have flourished on the Web, several of LG's former editors think that if it
> were (re)started now they'd go the CMS route. And I have been exploring
> Kotti and it's got a lot of neat things, even if it's not fully polished
> yet. But for the SeaPIG's site simple needs, I can see version-controlled
> content with a static HTML converter as being sufficient. If it allowed
> attachments, which we'd need for uploading slides and things. Maybe we can
> talk about it at the next meeting.
>
> In the meantime, would somebody care to design a static home page with a
> place for the next meeting info and a link to the mailing list?
>
> The Mailman list is running fine so it's not as urgent to replace, but it
> will be an issue when I upgrade the OS. (Ubuntu 13.04 is not yet supported
> on Linode, so it won't be right away.)  I still like the idea of migrating
> to Google Groups at some point.
>
> The $240 server bill has been paid so I'm still looking for donations to
> help offset it. Not tax-deductibe, bla bla bla.
>
> --
> Mike Orr <[email protected]>
>
>

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