"Mike A. Harris" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Vladimir G Ivanovic wrote:
>
> >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:48:35 -0700
> >From: Vladimir G Ivanovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >Subject: Re: [OT/Meta] Sendmail weirdness...
> >
> >"CW" == Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > CW> I think the workstation install is all that you wish for.
> >
> >Apparently the workstation install does not receive email by default, so
> >no, it emphatically is not all that I wish for.
>
> A workstation by definition is not a server. Workstations don't
> in general need to run services like SMTP. Any workstation
> running SMTP is not really what I would call a workstation. If
> one wants something other than a workstatioin, that is what a
> custom install is for.
>
> Are there people out there using workstations that want to run
> SMTP or need to? Yes. That doesn't mean it is the most common
> setup. When generalizing things like "Server install" or
> "Workstation install" it is IMPOSSIBLE to please everyone. Those
> preset installs are generalized to fit the most common case.
> Anyone not finding the common case adequate is a special case,
> and should use custom, and use kickstart to create a customized
> install that is repeatable. kickstart can even enable sendmail
> for you if you like.
>
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You tell him Mike.
I wish he would go away, or come up some reasonable complaint.
Wah Wah Wah, I want the linux install to intuit what I want it to do
automatically.
This Vladamir guy, should try to install Windows 2000 and see if it is
securely
running everything he expects automatically with out having to do more
than a
couple clicks and a little typing. Then after the first reboot will it
work
immediately, I don't think so. Been there done that. I just performed a
custom install this morning, granted I am a professional administrator
but last week when
we spent all morning baby sitting a Win2k Server install, we still had
to configure and reboot a few times to get things to work properly. The
RedHat install went like this - boot, click a few times, fill out some
user names and network settings, go
away, insert second disk press enter, go away, insert blank disk and
click mouse, go away, pop diskette out click mouse, remove ejected
cdrom, go away, login and were
already pretty much security hardened.
It used to take a day or more to get a machine hardened to act as a
public server.
I guess some of these trolls will be happy when the TUI {Telepathic User
Interface}
installation becomes available. Until then may RedHat can come out with
a
workstation version that comes with "RedHat for dummies" and an
installation with
no options and a default account that logs on without a password.
Guy Fraser
--
There is a fine line between genius and lunacy, fear not, walk the
line with pride. Not all things will end up as you wanted, but you
will certainly discover things the meek and timid will miss out on.
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