On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 07:35:48AM -0500, gary wrote: > Luciano ES wrote: > > > OK, I just recovered my /etc/profile and fixed my installation. Thanks to > > everyone for their valuable help. > > > > Using Red Hat 7.3, I just ran across a chance to install Red Hat 9. I > > remember someone in this list trashed Red Hat 9 without any trace of mercy only a > > few days ago. So, is it really that bad? Could I at least use the RH9 CDs to > > update my current installation? Say, at least update KDE, Gnome and a few libs? Or > > even that would be a bad idea? > > > > > > I have not tried Redhat 9, but I did load Redhat 8 onto one of my boxes last Fall > when it first hit the streets. That was 3 weeks of serious frustration before I put > Redhat 7.1 on that box. > > I found Redhat 8 to be very incomplete. It lacks so many of the good tools that the > earlier versions had to administer the system. > > Redhat 8 doesn't have Linuxconfig anymore and the Redhat tools that replaced it > don't have nearly the functionality that Linuxconfig had. Be prepared to go back to > editing the config files manually. Redhat also removed GnoRPM and replaced it with a > Windows-like Add-remove software feature, but it is really limited. It can function > only with the RPMs > that are delivered on the original Redhat CDs. If you choose to install any other > RPM that you downloaded, or want to install from an FTP server, you are on your own. > You have to go back to the command line installation. And, this new system seems to > have a nasty habit of trashing the RPM database and forgetting what is installed and > what isn't. If > you choose to run Gnome, there is no menu editer. You can put icons on the desktop, > and you can add them to the menu, but the start menu is pretty much out of bounds > for changes unless you want to start editing their cryptic XML files that control > it. Basically, I find Redhat 8 to be the Windows XP of Linux. If you like XP, you > might like Redhat 8 > too. > > Also, since Redhat 7.2, Gnome chose to use the Nautalus file manager, and compared > to the GMC file manager, it is simply a resource hog that lacks much of the simple > functionality of GMC. > > I fought with Redhat 8 for 3 weeks and gave up. I had all the earlier versions on my > shelf to choose from except 7.3, and I chose to redo my Redhat 8 box with Redhat > 7.1. It runs flawlessly. It runs fast. I tried 7.2, and the Nautalus file manager > leave me screaming and frustrated. Gnome under 7.2 runs like a slug, and KDE never > has had any speed to > it, but with Nautalus in Gnome, suddenly KDE looks like the better choice. > > OK, I've vented enough here. I have not tried Redhat 9 and maybe Redhat did tie up > the loose ends that were missing in 8. Someone who has actual experience with 9 > needs to review it here.> > Personally, I run Linux because it gives me control that isn't available in Windows. > The later versions of Redhat are taking that away. > > In my opinion, don't change over any important box to these new versions until you > have given them a good test drive in a box you don't need. That is the way I did it > with Redhat 8 last Fall, and my old Redhat 7 and 7.1 boxes kept running flawlessly > right through the entire fiasco with Redhat 8. Now my Redhat 8 sits in the shelf in > its original > packaging and that is where it stays. It is true some programs have been deprecated in RH 9 but a large number of configuration options have been added, You can't upgrade 7.2 with the RH 9 CD's but like all software if 7.1 is doing what you want to do stick with it. But the integrated configuration suite as well as the integrated Microsoft Office equivalent, Evolution, etc make RH9 worth looking at. Ther are some problems but they have existed in every release. The kernel is better. So you takes you choice. -- ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University 715 Stadium Dr. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200
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