What follows is a summary of the first testing-security meeting held at
Oldenburg September 22, 2005 with joeyh, micah, jmm, lamont in
attendance:

. Discussed stable security and Brandon's arrival and what
  testing-security can offer to help with stable-security issues

        . transparency of stable security - tracking tools
        . stable is primarily responsible for embargoed issues

. Discussed vendor-sec criteria and if it made sense for
testing-security people to try and obtain it. The general 
consensus was that the majority of the issues we deal with are already 
public or get fixed in such a short time that we do not need to have
access to embargoed issues.

. Discussed each person's work-flow to get an idea of what lists/websites
each of us monitor and ways that we identify problems/fixes. Getting these
things documented would help identify what is missing and what new people
can help with.

  . watching for holes:
        watch/scan bugs that are tagged in the BTS
        lists: bugraq, bug-dists, debian-devel-changes (should filebugs, tag 
security), full disclosure, lkml
        "exploit tree" as potentially useful if we could manage to track it
  . checking for the existence of packages affected by issues:
        search for ITP
        check for previous advisory
        check packages.debian
        apt-cache search        
  . couple times a week, open each bug on testing-security page tabs and check 
to see if they are closed

NOTE: if a CVE advisory says fixed in version 1.5 and later, you should not 
trust this and see
if it is vulnerable in versions prior if they are in debian


. We talked about some of the issues on Mortiz' email, and identified some 
interesting things to work on:

   tsck:
        make it just svn update the secure-testing list, but not the html page, 
or smaller subset
        adapt it to the new syntactical changes to the list (urgencies etc.)
        
   user-tags: 
        use testing-security, mark as reviewed, also mark bugs that have a CVE 
id with that ID

   retroactive list clensing:
        go through CAN/list to retroactively add not-affected to issues that do 
not have it
        perhaps add more tags that fw has created

   documentation issues:

        overview of developer's reference changes (micah is working on making 
these changes)
        
   DTSA criteria:
        we only identified that we should figure this out

        agreeing on severity levels and embedded source/removed packages so it 
can be documented
        workflow overview

   Others:
        We didn't get through the whole list, but will at later meetings

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