Just an idea... Talk to the Isrealis, they have the source code... This
is the reason why the US Military won't use FW1, anyway...

But seriously, Checkpoint isn't the only company without a clue as to
what the RFC's state. Last time I checked, Secure Computing's Sidewinder
is the only application firewall with an RFC compliant ftp proxy (port
20 treated as an integral part of port 21 ftp traffic). You might try
their product, and I can refer you to a newsgroup that can help you when
their support cannot (which is not that often).

Cheers!
Mickey

-----Original Message-----
From: Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Scott Walker Register
Subject: customer support at Checkpoint Software is getting worse


Hello everyone,
I wanted to share my recent experiences with customer support at
Checkpoint Software as it indicates a trend for the worst. Let me point
out some major things first: With Checkpoint Software you are not even
able to purchase a support contract if you have not already purchased a
software subscription. Also, the technical database (SecureKnowledge) is
only available with a valid support contract; other companies offer that
for free on the web. But it gets better: If you have purchased a support
contract that does not mean you really get what you might expect.
According to the SLA of Checkpoint's support contracts it states that
"...provides assistance with diagnosis of anomalies and/or failures in
Check Point Software to conform with Check Point published documentation
when the Software is installed and operated according to Check Point
Software specifications." This means that you can call in to get help
with something that is already broken but not to prevent that is breaks.
I called in when I upgraded my Firewall-1 to the new NG version and
wanted to make sure that the upgrade went well and that the new general
properties are correct set (I am an experienced user). The answer I got
shocked me. They referred me to their professional services unit because
according to a technical support manager at Checkpoint, their support
"only helps if the Firewall is down or the software does not run the way
it supposed to". Of course you have to pay extra for professional
services. So let me get this straight: In order to become a customer of
Firewall-1 from Checkpoint you need to: 1. buy the software 2. pay for
the software subscription 3. pay for the support contract 4. pay for
professional services So to me it looks like this: The more unreliable
and complex they make the software the more money they make. Interesting
concept..... If I remember right a company ought to fix if a product
does not work the way it is advertised and should work according to
common law. This means that what they claim to cover with their support
contract actually should be for free and a service. Btw, other companies
love to help us be a happy customer and try the approach to make sure
things do not break in the first place, especially if we have paid for
an additional service like a support contract. So the feeling I get is
being ripped off and not appreciated as a customer. But I have choices,
there are other vendors who might appreciate a happy customer more. So
my Firewall-1 licence is up for sale now. I will switch to another
product where they help me when I need it, do not try to squeeze more
money and contracts out of me and their goal is that I am and stay a
happy customer so I come back to buy lots of more products in the
future. What this experience reminded me of once again is the fact that
the quality of the software is only once reason to purchase a product
but it is way more important to have good support and an attitude of the
company that is customer friendly.

Nils Puhlmann



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