James, 
         
        I think you will find that, out of those products 90% plus where
created by non-security professionals.  And those created by security
companies, security analyst had very little input into the creation of
how things should be done.  And about 2% do what they say they can do. 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Meritt James 
        Sent: Mon 11/19/2001 12:48 PM 
        To: Jonas M Luster 
        Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Subject: Re: Risk Analysis and Management software
        
        

        Roger that. Would help a bit to understand a bit on how you are
doing
        the analysis and a vague idea of what you are doing in the
analysis and
        what to do/how to interpret "what comes out", either.
        
        I've "looked into the innards" of a number of software packages,
and
        would not recommend any of them that I've seen.
        
        Garbage in, mystical chants, gospel out.  yeah.
        
        V/R
        
        Jim
        
        Jonas M Luster wrote:
        >
        > Quoting Meritt James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
        >
        > > An interesting distinction between finding and analysis for
qualitative
        > > and quantitative risk analysis may (and often is) made.  The
CIS FRAP,
        > > for example, is a qualitative system.  A number of the
software risk
        > > analysis packages claim to be quantitative but an inspection
of (all the
        > > ones I have looked into) seems lacking in statistical rigor
and
        > > justification for numerous operations and selections of
defaults.
        >
        > Without a broad knowledge base (which would then imply an ASP
based
        > solution), qualification is bound to be statistically and
practically
        > incorrect. ASP based, because I don't really know anyone who'd
be
        > willing to store a couple of terabytes of indexed incident and
risk
        > data on a harddisk.
        
        --
        James W. Meritt CISSP, CISA
        Booz | Allen | Hamilton
        phone: (410) 684-6566
        



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