Ellison is not refering to securing Exchange/Microsoft.  He is refering to 
the use of Oracle Email Server from Oracle Apps Server product line, and 
that users can stick to using Microsoft Outlook at the frontend.


>From: "Brad Westman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Ellison: Oracle Database is 'Unbreakable' (fwd)
>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:02:12 -0600
>
>At the very least Oracle has put some effort in to security. Microsoft
>doesn't care and will wait till people break every little peice of their
>software then will pay the developement costs to patch their software.. Not
>only is Oracle concerned with security, but they are concerned with a
>seperate vendors product that will secure an unsecure product
>(Exchange/Microsoft).
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "leon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:39 AM
>Subject: Ellison: Oracle Database is 'Unbreakable' (fwd)
>
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> > I think it is a publicity stunt.  Nothing like taunting the hacking /
> > security community to get some free security work done for them so
> > they don't have to do it themselves.  I mean, why would they spend
> > money on research and development of security when that totally cuts
> > into their bottom line and they can it for free and add security as
> > an afterthought.  Anyone else agree or disagree?  All responses to
> > list please.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Leon
> >
> > - - -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Ellison: Oracle Database is 'Unbreakable' (fwd)
> >
> > - - ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:21:19 -0700
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Ellison: Oracle Database is 'Unbreakable'
> >
> > http://www.varbusiness.com/components/Nl/Insider/article.asp?ArticleID
> > =31368
> >
> > [ snip ]
> >
> > Ellison also said hackers and cybercriminals can't break into the
> > database
> > because of its enhanced security and stability. He said he was warned
> > not to
> > call Oracle 9i unbreakable because it would attract hackers eager to
> > break
> > into Oracle databases, but despite increased attacks recently, all
> > attempts
> > have failed so far, Ellison said.
> >
> > "I'm not inviting hackers, but so far, with more than 1,000 attacks a
> > day,
> > we're still running," Ellison said. "Our very first customer was the
> > CIA.
> > Our second customer was the National Security Agency."
> >
> > [ snip ]
> >
> > "What we're proposing is you keep your Microsoft Outlook, we'll make
> > it
> > unbreakable," Ellison said. "And unbreakable means you can't break it
> > and
> > you can't break in."
> >
> > [ snip ]
> >
> > More at
> > http://www.oracle.com/features/events/index.html?ljecomdex.html
> >
> > Sounds like a challenge to me. I think you can download evaluation
> > copies
> > of Oracle products at http://otn.oracle.com/software/content.html
> >
> > - - --
> > Elias Levy
> > SecurityFocus
> > http://www.securityfocus.com/
> > Si vis pacem, para bellum
> >
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