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"So it seems to me that if you use NAT/PAT, you don't
need a real firewall unless you're actually permitting
some kind of traffic to connect to something from the
outside.

Is that right?

- -- Dee"

Hi Dee,

A lot of firewalls use NAT/PAT so if you are using it then you are
using a firewall/ing (technique?)  Also if you don't have any
listening services then it becomes much harder for an attacker to
remotely execute code on your system (especially if it is *ix, hi m$
outlook and all your bugs ((heh I say that as I type this e-mail in
outlook)) ).

Not sure if that cleared things up or not.  I think it is really
arguing the semantics of a nuance (ie NAT/PAT forget about firewall
yet a lot of firewalls actually use this for firewalling or a means
of).

HTH,

Leon

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