Hey, im sorry to say it but many people will agree with me on this list.
real hackers dont hang in chats, they dont participate in anything really. 
they built their exclusive groups of friends when they were going through 
the "script kiddie" stage. They gain a few friends over time, but not many.
If its the elite ones you are after, you probibly wont get them. They are 
the last people you would expect, system security guys etc, possibly even a 
few of them are reading this list. If you wanna gather info on them I hope 
you have a few years up your sleeve ;)
If you want some contacts then go to defcon or something like that, just 
don't dress like a fed hehe

Peter Francis

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>On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:47:26PM -0500, William 
>Laubernds([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > If you are looking towards IRC I would go to the 2600 IRC server
> > (irc.2600.net)
>
>       It looks like he is seeking morons, black or
>white.. irc.2600.net is a good start.
>
>       Now the real black hats hang out on AOL in secret chat-rooms,
>because they know nobody will find them there.  I suggest buddying up
>with some of the 2600.net people and perhaps you will get into their
>secret net of private AOL chat-rooms.
>
> > Else send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with  "subscribe 
>happy-hacker" in
> > the message body.  (I have not used this mailing list, I have just seen 
>it on
> > differnet haX0r sites)
>
>       You will definitely locate some of the most skilled black hats
>there.  I heard they can fry toasters!
>
>With humility,
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