John,

It is very difficult, some would say impossible, to judge one piece of
software to be absolutely more secure than another.  However, I'll attempt
to address your question here.

Although Domino and Exchange can both appear very similar in their use and
function, they are in fact very different once you "peak under the hood."
Exchange is a mail server that implements various groupware and scheduling
functions on top of existing email protocols.  Domino, on the other hand, is
a groupware database system that implements corporate email as a groupware
application.

When it comes to security, Domino and Exchange have a lot in common.  Both
suffer from a wide range of security issues, such as susceptibility to
buffer overflows, misconfigurations, password attacks, virii, trojan horses,
web based security problems and many others.  Both servers will be insecure
if they are deployed using the default configuration provided "out of the
box."

Given all this, a better question might be "which one can more easily be
secured: Domino or Exchange?"  This question doesn't have an easy answer
either, but here are a few points to consider:

* Lotus Domino has a few more buttons to push and dials to turn than
Exchange, so one will probably have a slightly longer initial fixlist for
Domino and will also have a slightly steeper learning curve.

* Determining whether exchange is secure or not is difficult.  I've been
looking on and off for a while and have yet to find a good and up-to-date
independent Exchange Hardening document.  You will probably find that hiring
an expert consultant just for this purpose is prohibitively expensive; and
won't help you maintain security after the initial engagement.  Microsoft
does maintain an Exchange security page at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
prodtech/exc10.asp.  However, I would *not* recomend relying on this site
alone to ensure the security of your installation.

* Application Security, Inc. has developed an integrated Lotus Domino
security assessment product, called AppDetective for Domino.  AppD. for
Domino allows you to generate a by server or by network report of every
vulnerability possible for a Lotus installation.  Utilizing this tool you'll
be able to create a quick list of everything you need to do to secure your
Domino servers.  You will also be able to use the tool to verify the
server's security once you are done.  Get more information about
AppDetective for Domino at
http://www.appsecinc.com/products/appdetective/domino.

In conclusion, both of these products have security concerns that need to be
addressed.  Don't be mislead by trying to count vulnerabilities or
advisories for both products, instead, ask how much time and effort will be
required to secure and installation on your network.

Regards,
_____________________________________________
Josh Daymont
Chief Security Architect
Tel: 212-490-6022
Cell: 404-431-4042
Fax: 212-490-6456
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Web: www.appsecinc.com
Application Security, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bednar, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Security Basics (E-mail)
Subject: domino/exchange

Hi,
quite simply which one is more secure
Notes/ Domino Enviornment
Outlook/Exchange Enviornment
I always hear about the holes and exploit of the Outlook/Exchange , and
nothing about Notes/ Domino, does that mean that it is that much more
secure
( I know that notes is a database)


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