Hello All,

During my observation in daily use of Yahoo Messenger, my computer has "stale/zombie" 
sessions.  For example, If i have received/message a friend, yahoo will normally make 
a direct connection from my PC to my friend.  From Netstat result, you can see a high 
port on my computer is having an Established session with my peer's:5101 port.

The issue is, after a contact has gone offline (dial-up), the state established in the 
netstat will remain until the next day.  I wouls see this as a vulnerabilities, since 
an arbitrary user can assume the IP Address was used (dial-up->dynamic ip assignment), 
and use this established session to assume it.

Any idea ?


Regards,
Leonard Ong
Network Security Specialist, APAC
NOKIA

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-----Original Message-----
From: ext Joey [mailto:josefhuggins@;hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:32 PM
To: Security Basics
Subject: Re: Biometric question


To clarify:retinal scanning is about as effective as fingerprints. Retinal
scanning uses a laser light, often in the green part of the spectrum to scan
the blood vessels of the internal eye. Both methods scan around 90 metric
points. They can easily read false depending on whether or not the
biological sample (in this case eyeball or finger) is placed exactly in the
same position as it was when it was initially scanned. There is, of course,
with most software a threshold setting which will allow readings to require
either a very precise ( a finger must be placed in exactly the same spot
every time on a reader ) or very minimal ( a finger can be placed anywhere
near the center of the reader, but the accuracy drops proportionately )
setting. The best way to go from everything I've seen and read is with iris
scans. Whereas fingerprint and retina scans read around 90 metric points, an
iris scan reads about 250. Iris scans are non-invasive whereas retina scans
require a laser light or other strong light source directed through the
cornea in order to read the vessel pattern in the back of the eye. While
it's allot more expensive, if security, and not money is your concern, I
think iris scanners are the way to go. If you can't "hack" it and you have
to settle w/fingerprint or retinal scanners, I would go for the fingerprint
scanner.

-J

----- Original Message -----
From: Naveed Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Biometric question


> Michael is right.
> the better ones are ( at least relatively more difficult to fake) retina
> scans and  voice recognition.
> dont go by what tom cruise does in 'minority report' with the eye
balls.!!!
> rgds
> -Naveed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Sconzo [mailto:msconzo@;tamu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Biometric question
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> One of the more memorable things that I have read about fingerprint
> scanners is:
> http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0205.html#5
>
> You can basically fake a fingerprint biometric machine with a gummi
> bear.  If I remember correctly, the majority of fingerprint scanners
> are vulnerable to this type of attack. One of the big things to look
> for is one that samples SHAPES not POINTS, and remember the more the
> merrier.
>
> As for other types of biometrics, I am not too sure, hopefully
> somebody else can shed some light on those.
>
> - -mike
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Felix Cuello [mailto:felix@;qodiga.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Biometric question
>
>
>
> Hello list!
>
>    I will work in a project where phisical security will be based on
>    biometrics, in fact only will be based on fingerprints biometric.
>
>    How secure are fingerprints?, what biometric are more secure?
> (voice,
>    eye, ??? what else).
>
>    I'm not a security expert :-)
>
>    Thanks a lot,
>
>    Felix
>    [my english is bad... please sorry :-)]
>
> - --
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