Are we talking about services and protocols too, now? For more often insecure services like RPC, NFS, etc., some of the programs do serve their purpose and work properly. I personally consider an insecure program, an insecure program--not the protocol it uses or the service itself. E.g., the program has exploits beyond the limits of it's intended purpose. If I create a program to rm -rf / your system and you run it, is that program insecure? It serves it's purpose, but if I create a program that says system("echo $input"); and claim it's an interactive "hello world" type of program, then that would qualify as insecure. -- Regards, Tim Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server administration, security, programming, consulting.
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