Roger-

The source of the POD is our DC which is always on.  Wouldn't this give the
option to be an MTU?

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger A. Grimes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:37 PM
To: Darren Gragg

Can't be an MTU problem if the fragments are occurring when the machines are
not active. That one fact changes everything.  Share with the list and see
what else people come up with.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Gragg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Roger A. Grimes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Ping of Dead on LAN


Roger-

I am familiar with what their intention is.  I don't know that I should have
one on my setup.  We are installing point to point t-1 next week so I will
be able to get in and see if we are dealing with a problem in the router.  I
think we might have an MTU problem because the only setting in the SonicWALL
is an option to fragment outgoing packets if they are over 1500.  These
packets shouldn't be outgoing because they are staying on our LAN.  This is
a very puzzling one.

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger A. Grimes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:27 PM
To: Darren Gragg

Put this one back to the list....it's too juicy not to share.  Now, I'm
thinking a Keepalive problem.

Are you familar with keepalives?

Roger

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Gragg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Roger A. Grimes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: Ping of Dead on LAN


Roger-

Yes these POD show up even though the machines are off.  They aren't in any
sort of pattern that I can find, other than maybe some type of Microsoft
group policy refresh type of thing.  Maybe it is some fragmented packet that
the DC is scanning with?

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger A. Grimes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:21 AM
To: Darren Gragg

Interesting.  Let me confirm this...the PODs appear to come from machines
that are physically turned off?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Gragg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Roger A. Grimes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: Ping of Dead on LAN


Roger-

The POD happen at random intervals throughout the day even when the machines
are off.  They always have a source as my DC and to these XP boxes on other
subnets at the branches.  I have thought what Steve said in that it could be
a group policy thing since the machines at those locations have a really
hard time loading their roaming profiles when they log into the machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger A. Grimes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:47 PM
To: Darren Gragg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've installed dozens of Sonicwalls, and I can tell you that isn't a normal
symptom.

We need more details...when do the POD's happen...?  As soon as the machine
is turned on (before XP is loaded), all the time, randomly....give us more
details.

If I was you, I'd disable services and use netstat -ano to find out what
service or program is generating the false-positive traffic (if it is
false-positive traffic).

Turn on SW's packet sniffing features and capture a few packets...and take a
look.

Roger

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Gragg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: Ping of Dead on LAN


> I have a problem that SonicWALL can't seem to figure out and I'm running
out
> of ideas myself.  We have a main location where our DC is with our
branches
> connected via t-1 lines.  Also at the main location is a SonicWALL pro
200.
> Each time I install a Windows XP Pro machine at our branch locations it
> creates more and more Ping of Death Blocked entries in our firewall log.
> Does anyone have any ideas?  Any help would be great!
>
> Darren Gragg
> CTO
>
>
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