> On 26 Jan 2017, at 17:55, Mandy Chung <mandy.ch...@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 3:13 AM, Doug Simon <doug.si...@oracle.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> jdk.vm.compiler is defined by the application class loader and it’s used by 
>>> AOT tool.  I wonder why it has to run with security manager.
>> 
>> Without java.security.AllPermission, the policy for jdk.vm.compiler required 
>> to get through a bootstrap (i.e., java -server 
>> -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -Djava.security.manager -XX:+BootstrapJVMCI 
>> -XX:+UseJVMCICompiler -version) is show below (annotated with comments 
>> denoting the methods requiring the permissions):
>> 
>> :
> 
> Are -XX:+BootstrapJVMCI -XX:+UseJVMCICompiler supported to use at runtime?

Not sure I understand your question - they cannot be used at any other time 
apart from runtime.

>> There’s no guarantee that this is all the permissions required since not all 
>> code paths are exercised during bootstrap.
>> 
>>> You can reference JDK tools such as jdk.compiler and jdk.jlink that are not 
>>> granted with any permission.
>> 
>> Neither of those tools create code and install it in the VM. I don’t think a 
>> fine grained SecurityManager policy makes sense for a VM compiler since it 
>> could subvert security by compiling/installing malicious code. That is, a VM 
>> compiler has to be a trusted component. Keep in mind that user code cannot 
>> get to jdk.vm.compiler.
> 
> My question is not about granting fine-grained permissions vs AllPermissions. 
>  I expect jdk.vm.compiler is used with jdk.aot which does not run with 
> security manager.
> 
> If jdk.vm.compiler is run with VM as JIT and with security manager, the user 
> can set -Djava.security.policy to a security policy configuring the 
> permission for jdk.vm.compiler.
> 
> grant codeBase "jrt:/jdk.vm.compiler" {
>   permission java.security.AllPermission;
> };
> 
> If -XX:+BootstrapJVMCI -XX:+UseJVMCICompiler are supported, the other 
> question I have is which loader jdk.vm.compiler should be defined?

I’m no expert on class loaders, but I would guess the same loader as jdk.vm.ci.

-Doug

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