FYI.  jdk.javaws is granted with AllPermissions in conf/security/javaws.policy.   Maybe javaws.policy is not augmented to the security policy at runtime?

Mandy

On 9/20/17 12:45 PM, Sean Mullan wrote:
Tom,

Try adding the following lines to the lib/security/default.policy file in your JDK installation:

grant codeBase "jrt:/jdk.javaws" {
    permission java.security.AllPermission;
};

I have a hunch that permissions are not being granted to the jdk.javaws module before it needs them. If that fixes the issue (or you don't see it for a few days), I'll followup and file a bug.

Thanks,
Sean

On 9/19/17 5:55 PM, Tom Hood wrote:
No luck so far reproducing this problem. The two times it happened to me yesterday have both been with Java 9 build 181 and the application has been idle for awhile. I login to our application, execute various features of the application, go to a meeting, return, and then see the java console repeatedly displaying the stack overflow exception. Maybe meetings are bad for Java 9? :-)  I think there are some background threads in our application that are waking up periodically and doing "stuff".  I don't know what that "stuff" is yet, but that would be my guess at where I will find the code that triggered the overflow.

Assuming I can get our application to the point where I can reproduce the stack overflow, are there particular Java 9 builds that made significant changes to security-relevant code that you'd like me to try?

Keep in mind that our app runs on a network not connected to the internet.  As it is, I manually typed in the stack trace, so if there's a lot of output I'll have to print it and go through an approval process to show it to you via a scanned pdf.  I will continue testing of our app with the security debug turned on so that I'll have the output if it happens again.  I also have the logging and tracing enabled in the java control panel.

-- Tom


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Sean Mullan <sean.mul...@oracle.com <mailto:sean.mul...@oracle.com>> wrote:

    Cross-posting to security-dev as this is more relevant to that list
    and bcc-ing core-libs-dev.

    I think this might be an issue with the JavaWebStart SecurityManager
    not being granted the proper permissions. It is possible that the
    deployment policy files are not being loaded or there is some other
    subtle bootstrapping issue. It should not result in a recursive loop
    of course, but there may be a workaround.

    In the meantime, can you send me more information, preferably a test
    case and a log file with -Djava.security.debug=all enabled? (The
    latter will help analyze the recursion and see what security checks
    are failing and for which ProtectionDomains). Also, have you tested
    this on builds earlier than b181?

    Thanks,
    Sean

    On 9/19/17 2:53 PM, Tom Hood wrote:

        I should add that we have not modified or overridden any policy
        files.
        Also, we are not using a custom security manager.

        On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Tom Hood <tom.w.h...@gmail.com
        <mailto:tom.w.h...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Hi,

            I hit an infinite recursion loop probably related to
            PolicyFile that
            exists in Java 9 build 181 for windows 64-bit.  It might be
            related to
            JDK-8077418
            <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8077418
<https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8077418>>


            I haven't tracked down what is causing our webstart app to
            hit this
            problem yet, but I thought I would let you know sooner than
            later.  Also,
            it probably is not a problem for our particular application
            as I should be
            able to set the security manager to null which I think/hope
            will bypass
            this issue.  I will try today to reproduce it in our app so
            I can confirm
            if setting security manager to null will work for us.

            The stack looks like the following: (with many repeat stacks
            omitted)

            Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-2"
            java.lang.StackOverflowError
            at
java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
            Method)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.getPermissions(Po
            licyFile.java:1135)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.getPermissions(Po
            licyFile.java:1082)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.implies(PolicyFil
            e.java:1038)
            at java.base/java.security.provider.ProtectionDomain.implies(Pr
            otectionDomain.java:323)
            at java.base/java.security.provider.ProtectionDomain.impliesWit
            hAltFilePerm(ProtectionDomain.java:355)
            at java.base/java.security.provider.AccessControlContext.checkP
            ermission(AccessControlContext.java:450)
            at java.base/java.security.provider.AccessController.checkPermi
            ssion(AccessController.java:895)
            at java.base/java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(Security
            Manager.java:558)
            at jdk.javaws/com.sun.javaws.security.JavaWebStartSecurity.chec
            kPermission(JavaWebStartSecurity.java:237)
            at
java.base/java.lang.SecurityManager.checkRead(SecurityManager.java:897)
            at java.base/java.io.File.isDirectory(File.java:845)
            at
java.base/sun.net.www.ParseUtil.fileToEncodedURL(ParseUtil.java:299)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.canonicalizeCodeb
            ase(PolicyFile.java:1665)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.access$700(Policy
            File.java:263)
            at
java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile$7.run(PolicyFile.java:1139)
            at
java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile$7.run(PolicyFile.java:1136)
            **** and again ****
            at
java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
            Method)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.getPermissions(Po
            licyFile.java:1135)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.getPermissions(Po
            licyFile.java:1082)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.implies(PolicyFil
            e.java:1038)
            at java.base/java.security.provider.ProtectionDomain.implies(Pr
            otectionDomain.java:323)
            at java.base/java.security.provider.ProtectionDomain.impliesWit
            hAltFilePerm(ProtectionDomain.java:355)
            at java.base/java.security.provider.AccessControlContext.checkP
            ermission(AccessControlContext.java:450)
            at java.base/java.security.provider.AccessController.checkPermi
            ssion(AccessController.java:895)
            at java.base/java.lang.SecurityManager.checkPermission(Security
            Manager.java:558)
            at jdk.javaws/com.sun.javaws.security.JavaWebStartSecurity.chec
            kPermission(JavaWebStartSecurity.java:237)
            at
java.base/java.lang.SecurityManager.checkRead(SecurityManager.java:897)
            at java.base/java.io.File.isDirectory(File.java:845)
            at
java.base/sun.net.www.ParseUtil.fileToEncodedURL(ParseUtil.java:299)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.canonicalizeCodeb
            ase(PolicyFile.java:1665)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.access$700(Policy
            File.java:263)
            at
java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile$7.run(PolicyFile.java:1139)
            at
java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile$7.run(PolicyFile.java:1136)
            **** above lines start the stack that repeats until overflow
            ****
            at
java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
            Method)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.getPermissions(Po
            licyFile.java:1135)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.getPermissions(Po
            licyFile.java:1082)
            at java.base/sun.security.provider.PolicyFile.implies(PolicyFil
            e.java:1038)

            -- Tom




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