On 23/11/2017 19:21, Jason Tedor wrote:
> Long term then it would be interesting to explore degrading and eventually dropping the security manager but that is beyond the scope of what I would like to discuss here.

That is a bold topic to immediately declare out of scope. I am looking for somewhere to reply, so I am forking this thread to a new subject to share my thoughts.
Starting a new thread is fine as it's beyond the scope of the topic that I was looking to discuss. As I mentioned, Sean and Jeff are planning a survey and that would be a good time to bring up use-cases and suggestions.


The JDK needs to be a platform that enables developing secure server applications. Seeing this question raised without any explicit or implicit mention of this need is surprising.
Sorry, that's a bit unfair as there has been massive effort put into the platform to support the development of secure applications. Security is much more than the security manager.

-Alan

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