On 9/4/2018 5:20 PM, Michael StJohns wrote:

On 9/4/2018 3:19 PM, Adam Petcher wrote:
I think what you are suggesting is that the implementation should convert between BigInteger and the internal representation when necessary. The problem with this approach is that it is too easy to inadvertently supply a BigInteger to the implementation, and this would result in a branch. I understand that this branch may be acceptable in some circumstances, but we would need something in the API to tell the implementation whether it is okay to branch or not. I think the simplest way to do that is to have a provider that never branches. If branching is okay, then SunEC can be used.

Basically yes.

But I don't understand what you mean by "inadvertently supply a BigInteger"?  AFAICT, you "supply" a BigInteger in an ECPrivateKeySpec and you retrieve one when you call getEncoded() or getS().    Your implementation would convert between the BigInteger and internal representation during the use of the engineGeneratePrivate() method of the KeyFactorySpi and would convert from your internal representation when exporting S, or encoding something as PKCS8.


I mean that the JCA client code may put a private key value in an ECPrivateKeySpec and give it to the KeyFactory of the new ECC implementation. Also problematic is calling getS() on an ECPrivateKey from the new implementation and converting the private key to a BigInteger. Both of these situations may leak some bits of the private key value into side channels, and the use of the "NewEC" provider is an assertion by the programmer/environment that these side-channel leaks are unacceptable. So the new provider will prevent these problems by rejecting ECPrivateKeySpec in its KeyFactory, and by returning null from getS(). BigInteger will not be used by engineGeneratePrivate when the spec is a PKCS8EncodedKeySpec (the only option). BigInteger is also not required to encode/decode a PKCS#8 private key.

Again - you're wrongly conflating interface requirements with implementation requirements.

And how do you expect to move key material between SunEC and this implementation?  See below for my commentary on that.


That's essentially the plan. Calling PrivateKey::getEncoded will return null, which is a convention for non-extractable keys. Trying to convert from/to an ECPrivateKeySpec using the KeyFactory in the new provider will result in an exception---so you won't have an object to call getS() on.
That's not what PKCS11 does - it just gives you a "PrivateKey" object with an internal type of sun.security.pkcs11.P11Key.  While that object is not type safe exactly, it is provider safe.

You're still wanting to use the various EC classes of java.security, java.security.spec, and java.security.interfaces, but you're unwilling to actually meet their contracts for some really suspect reasons.


Sorry, I referred to the wrong methods in my last e-mail. ECPrivateKey::getS will return null in the new implementation. The getEncoded method will return the encoded key, as usual. The second sentence referred to ECPrivateKeySpec::getS, which will remain unchanged, but you won't be able to use ECPrivateKeySpec with the new provider.

I don't believe my proposal violates the contracts of any of these classes, but if you believe that it does (after the correction above), then let me know which contracts are violated.



To create the key from stored information, the best way is to construct a PKCS8EncodedKeySpec using the encoded key. If you are starting with a BigInteger, and if branching is acceptable, you can use the KeyFactory from SunEC to convert an ECPrivateKeySpec to PrivateKey to get the encoded value.

Umm... what?

If you were doing NewEC -> SunEC manually (getEncoded() -> KeySpec) - you'll need to end up emitting a PKCS8 blob using RFC5915, which - unsurprisingly has  BigEndian INTEGERs (yes, its an octet string, but the encoding is specified by RFC3447 as pretty much the big endian encoding of an integer). E.g. it may look opaque from Java's point of view, but it's not really opaque. (See below)

Or have you got a different way of encoding the PKCS8 blob for the new provider?  E.g. point me at a specification please.


There is no issue with integers or endianness. The problem is specifically with BigInteger---it uses a variable-length representation, and it's spec does not give any guarantees about branching. The PKCS#8 encoding is fine because it is fixed length, so I can directly use the privateKey octet string (with bytes reversed, if necessary) in a branchless double-and-add loop.

My head hurt when I tried to work through the various cases of translating a private key from your provider to SunEC or to BouncyCastle and vice versa.  Basically, if you don't support the getS() call, then KeyFactory.translateKey() will fail. (Below from sun.security.ec.ECKeyFactory.java - the SunEC provider's implementation).

 private PrivateKey implTranslatePrivateKey(PrivateKey key)
            throws InvalidKeyException {
        if (key instanceof ECPrivateKey) {
            if (key instanceof ECPrivateKeyImpl) {
                return key;
            }
            ECPrivateKey ecKey = (ECPrivateKey)key;
            return new ECPrivateKeyImpl(
                ecKey.getS(),
                ecKey.getParams()
            );
        } else if ("PKCS#8".equals(key.getFormat())) {
            return new ECPrivateKeyImpl(key.getEncoded());
        } else {
            throw new InvalidKeyException("Private keys must be instance "
                + "of ECPrivateKey or have PKCS#8 encoding");
        }


The code above could be improved by using the PKCS#8 encoding when getS() returns null.

The only way to get private keys in or out of the new provider is through a PKCS#8 encoding. Moving keys to/from another provider that supports ECPrivateKeySpec but not PKCS#8 encoding can be accomplished by translating the specs---possibly with the help of a KeyFactory that supports both, like the one in SunEC.


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