That seems to work, though I used this code instead:

qualifyingPropertiesElement.setAttributeNS("http://www.w3.org/2000/xmlns/","xmlns:xades";, "http://uri.etsi.org/01903/v1.4.1#";);

That's because my xades elements all carry that prefix.  It does seem to work.  It's a bit odd to have to code it since the signed XML generates it in the expected way, as does the signature validation code.  In the end, as long as it works, I'm happy again!

Thanks for all your help.  After I try to push this back into our actual code, I'll report back since I need to make sure that this works not only on newly signed data using Java 11, but also continues to work on previously signed content.  I think it will from prior testing.

Thanks,
David

On 2/15/19 1:21 PM, Sean Mullan wrote:
I know what the problem is.

You also need to add the actual namespace attribute to your element, for example:

qualifyingPropertiesElement.setAttributeNS(
"http://www.w3.org/2000/xmlns/";, "xmlns", "http://uri.etsi.org/01903/v1.1.1#";);

You only need to do that on the top-most parent element in that namespace.

When I made that change to your code, everything generated and verified for me correctly (on JDK 10 anyway, JDK 11 may still have some issues).

--Sean

On 2/15/19 3:11 PM, Open eSignForms wrote:

XML namespaces are pretty confusing.  From what little I gather, unprefixed attributes don't belong to any namespace, not even the default one.

I think I can see the bug in the debugging output.

On Java 8 and 10 and 11, I'd guess that the marshaling/canonicalization has issues when combining differently namespaced objects.

In my working code (also works on Java 11), when my ETSI/XADES QualifyingProperties element is created specifying my namespace (the default namespace for the XML document that I'm signing), it works fine.  If I change my document's default namespace to be the XADES one, it also works.  But I cannot make them work when both are in use.  The reason seems to be as follows.

1) The signedXML generated looks great and sensible, with the xades namespace as expected.

    <ds:Object>
        <xades:QualifyingProperties Id="QualifyingProperties_ID" Target="#OpenESignForms_Seal" *xmlns:xades="http://uri.etsi.org/01903/v1.4.1#"*>
            <xades:SignedProperties>
                <xades:SignedSignatureProperties>
<xades:SigningTime>2019-02-15T11:30:44-08:00</xades:SigningTime>
                </xades:SignedSignatureProperties>
                <xades:SignedDataObjectProperties>
                    <xades:DataObjectFormat ObjectReference="#Payload_Reference_ID">
<xades:Description>description</xades:Description>
<xades:MimeType>text/html</xades:MimeType>
                    </xades:DataObjectFormat>
                </xades:SignedDataObjectProperties>
            </xades:SignedProperties>
        </xades:QualifyingProperties>
    </ds:Object>

2) But using the debugging options, it shows this element during SIGNING (presuming canonicalization) that makes /*no sense*/.  It's added both the default namespace, the 'dsig' namespace, but doesn't include the xades namespace. Wwhat does the 'xades' prefix even refer to in this XML for the signing digest?

    <xades:QualifyingProperties *xmlns="http://open.esignforms.com/XMLSchema/2011"; xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#"* Id="QualifyingProperties_ID" Target="#OpenESignForms_Seal">
        <xades:SignedProperties>
            <xades:SignedSignatureProperties>
<xades:SigningTime>2019-02-15T11:30:44-08:00</xades:SigningTime>
            </xades:SignedSignatureProperties>
            <xades:SignedDataObjectProperties>
                <xades:DataObjectFormat ObjectReference="#Payload_Reference_ID">
<xades:Description>description</xades:Description>
<xades:MimeType>text/html</xades:MimeType>
                </xades:DataObjectFormat>
            </xades:SignedDataObjectProperties>
        </xades:SignedProperties>
    </xades:QualifyingProperties>

3) And again, the debugger shows this element during VERIFICATION (presuming canonicalization) that is excessive, but at least makes some sense (though there are no default elements nor 'dsig' elements).  It's added all three namespaces: our default namespace, the 'dsig' namespace AND the 'xades' namespace.

   <xades:QualifyingProperties *xmlns="http://open.esignforms.com/XMLSchema/2011"; xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#"; xmlns:xades="http://uri.etsi.org/01903/v1.4.1#"* Id="QualifyingProperties_ID" Target="#OpenESignForms_Seal">
        <xades:SignedProperties>
            <xades:SignedSignatureProperties>
<xades:SigningTime>2019-02-15T11:30:44-08:00</xades:SigningTime>
            </xades:SignedSignatureProperties>
            <xades:SignedDataObjectProperties>
                <xades:DataObjectFormat ObjectReference="#Payload_Reference_ID">
<xades:Description>description</xades:Description>
<xades:MimeType>text/html</xades:MimeType>
                </xades:DataObjectFormat>
            </xades:SignedDataObjectProperties>
        </xades:SignedProperties>
    </xades:QualifyingProperties

So the libraries are oddly creating two distinct canonicalized XML for digesting, with the signing phase seeming to miss the important 'xades' namespace declaration entirely.  This is no doubt why this is the only Reference that fails verification as the two.  I'm guessing that the verification digest is correct when using multiple namespaced objects/references, but the signing digest is not since it doesn't include the 'xades' namespace declaration.

This seems to hold true for Java 8, 10 and 11.  That is, by specifying null namespaces on atrributes, the code fails the same under under Java 11, and the debugging output shows the same odd namespaces above.  If I use a single namespace, then it signs fine under Java 8, 10 and 11.

David


On 2/15/19 11:12 AM, Sean Mullan wrote:
On 2/14/19 9:32 PM, Open eSignForms wrote:

Yes, indeed that's the issue.  But I don't know why/how all those xmlns attributes are added, since I don't directly add them.

I found the only way I can make it work under Java 8, 10 and 11 is to use my common namespace (XML_NAMESPACE_2011 = "http://open.esignforms.com/XMLSchema/2011";) for all the XADES elements with the null namespace on all their attributes.  Even if I put that same namespace on the attributes, it then fails.

When I do that, the signed XML generates clean looking XML like this:

    <ds:Object>
        <QualifyingProperties Id="QualifyingProperties_ID" Target="#OpenESignForms_Seal">
<SignedProperties><SignedSignatureProperties>
<SigningTime>2019-02-14T17:37:39-08:00</SigningTime>
            </SignedSignatureProperties>
            <SignedDataObjectProperties>
                <DataObjectFormat ObjectReference="#Payload_Reference_ID">
<Description>description</Description>
<MimeType>text/html</MimeType>
                </DataObjectFormat>
            </SignedDataObjectProperties>
            </SignedProperties>
        </QualifyingProperties>
    </ds:Object>
    <ds:Object>
        <ds:SignatureProperties>
            <ds:SignatureProperty*Id="OpenESignForms_Seal_ID" Target="#OpenESignForms_Seal"*>                 <OpenESignForms_XmlDigitalSignatureSeal DeploymentHostAddress="192.1.1.1" DeploymentHostName="open.esignforms.com" DeploymentId="1.1.1.1" SignerAddress="192.1.1.1" SignerAgent="No-Browser-Test" Timestamp="2019-02-14T17:37:39-08:00" Version="19.1.19"/>
            </ds:SignatureProperty>
        </ds:SignatureProperties>
    </ds:Object>

But even above, as you can see, the second ds:Object shows ds:SignatureProperty, yet the Id and Target attributes do not include a 'ds:' prefix, which it's my understanding to mean that they default to our XML payload's default namespace.

I don't think that's correct, I think attributes w/o a prefix by default belong to the namespace of the element in which they are defined, which in this case is SignatureProperties and the dsig namespace.

Regarding below, I would forget about JDK 11 for the time being and focus on generating a signature with proper XMLNS definitions on JDK 10. If you have any problems verifying with that on JDK 10 or prior, let me know. The reason is that we will likely be restoring JDK 11 (and later) to the same state it was in for JDK 10. There were some changes to the marshalling code in JDK 11 which is causing these and other problems which will likely be backed out.

--Sean

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