Hi Martin,

Thanks for the proposal. Your documents mostly describe the solution. Can you provide more of the motivations and use-cases for the change? Do you see non FIPS-140 applications using this feature?

The feature does provide a comprehensive filtering system for JCA. The syntax, while powerful, seems like it would be somewhat error-prone and hard to use. We are also concerned that using the filter requires the sysadmin or developer to know about the service and algorithm details of every provider and which is required and which is not, all of which is not easily determined.

thanks

Tony

On 9/1/23 9:30 AM, Martin Balao wrote:
Hi Sean,

Thanks for clarifying your idea. I understand your motivation and share your concerns. I can think of how this application-specific knowledge can turn into a library-specific one in real scenarios, which may open the door for undesired dependencies. I also agree with being wary about doing stack walks in a Security Manager style at time of use. We have to give it some thought. Just in case, we reserved the characters ":" and "," in our proposal for the Security Providers Filter [1] [2]. Extending the filter syntax in the future (in a backward compatible way) should not be a problem.

Martin.-

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On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 1:01 PM Sean Mullan <sean.mul...@oracle.com <mailto:sean.mul...@oracle.com>> wrote:



    On 7/13/23 12:27 PM, Martin Balao wrote:
     > On 7/13/23 12:06, Sean Mullan wrote:
     >> One other comment that I thought of - is that from a practical
     >> standpoint, I think it will be hard to unilaterally disable an
    algorithm
     >> at the JCE layer unless it is so broken that almost no code ever
    uses
     >> it, say MD2 or RC2. There may be cases where a weak algorithm is
     >> acceptable, for example using MD5 for a checksum. (For a real
    example,
     >> UUID.nameUUIDFromBytes uses MD5 to generate a UUID).
     >>
     >> If you have a single case in your application where a weak
    algorithm is
     >> ok to use, you won't be able to disable it across the board.
     >
     > Yes, I agree with this observation. In fact, our original
    motivation was
     > not to disable an algorithm across the board but a specific
     > implementation of it —i.e. blocking the implementation from
    provider X,
     > because we want the one from provider Y or prefer the algorithm
    not to
     > be available. What we also have in mind is using this enhancement in
     > combination with security profiles that can enforce policies of
    allowed
     > algorithms, at the risk of requiring changes in an application to be
     > compliant.
     >
     >>
     >> At the risk of complicating your syntax and implementation, it
    may be
     >> worth exploring adding the name of a class to the syntax for
    cases like
     >> this. But my comment is more about thinking about this a bit
    more first.
     >>
     >> Or perhaps adding some extensibility into the format would be a good
     >> idea in case we want to add something like this down the line.
     >>
     >
     > I have a couple of questions regarding this idea:
     >
     > 1) Isn't the class name an implementation detail? My concern is
    not much
     > on how to extend the syntax but on binding the filter value to
    internal
     > names.

    It is an application-specific detail. I would expect this to be applied
    by applications that are most familiar with their usage, and not as
    part
    of a global configuration.

     > 2) Why wouldn't a combination of Security Provider + Service Type +
     > Algorithm be enough to identify a specific implementation?

    Because that doesn't tell you who is calling the specific
    provider/service and whether that use case is acceptable or not. Also
    most code that calls JCE APIs doesn't specify a specific provider.

    Again, I think this needs more thought, and I am not suggesting this is
    the best course of action, but one thought is a syntax something
    like this:

    
jdk.security.providers.filter=java.util.UUID.nameUUIDFromBytes:MessageDigest.MD5;!*.MessageDigest.MD5;*

    But, that would probably mean extending the implementation to do a
    stack
    walk to check if the specified class was one of the callers, which I am
    very wary about doing something like this. But the overall issue still
    remains for me. Maybe we should not be providing a way to unilaterally
    disable algorithms unless it can be used more effectively in practice.
    Otherwise I don't like the idea of telling a user they have to
    re-enable
    the algorithm even if they only have a single case where it is
    acceptable.

    --Sean

     > Thanks,
     > Martin.-
     >
     >
     >> --Sean
     >>
     >>
     >> On 7/13/23 11:44 AM, Martin Balao wrote:
     >>> Hi Sean,
     >>>
     >>> Thanks for your feedback.
     >>>
     >>> Just to give some visibility, we have implemented most of the
     >>> functionality and are now working on final adjustments, more tests
     >>> coverage, documentation and internal reviews. The implementation is
     >>> pretty much aligned to what we previously discussed, with the
    exception
     >>> of algorithm's alias that turned up to have more complexity than
     >>> anticipated —particularly in the legacy mode of registering
    Services—.
     >>>
     >>> We will send a PR for public discussion in the coming weeks.
     >>>
     >>> Martin.-
     >>>
     >>>
     >>> On 6/14/23 12:40, Sean Mullan wrote:
     >>>> This proposal looks pretty good, although I think I would like
    to see
     >>>> more examples and a prototype if you have it.
     >>>>
     >>>> I think this would work well in conjunction with Sean Coffey's
     >>>> enhancement to add a security category to the java
    -XshowSettings option
     >>>> [1]. This would help debug issues with the syntax. The provider
     >>>> suboption could be enhanced (perhaps by default, perhaps with an
     >>>> additional suboption) to show the services that are disabled,
    ex, with
     >>>> the property set to
     >>>>
     >>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=!*.MessageDigest.MD5;
     >>>> !*.MessageDigest.MD2; *:
     >>>>
     >>>> it would show something like:
     >>>>
     >>>>            Provider name: SUN
     >>>>            Provider information: ...
     >>>>            Provider services: (type : algorithm)
     >>>>                ...
     >>>>                MessageDigest : MD2 (disabled)
     >>>>                MessageDigest : MD5 (disabled)
     >>>>                ...
     >>>>
     >>>> I would even add that as a debugging tip in the documenting of the
     >>>> syntax.
     >>>>
     >>>> --Sean
     >>>>
     >>>> [1] https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/14394
    
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     >>>>
     >>>> On 5/24/23 5:03 PM, Martin Balao wrote:
     >>>>> Hi,
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Thanks Anthony for your feedback.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> We've been exploring the syntax and semantics for this new
    property
     >>>>> further, with the goal of making it more consistent and
    simple while
     >>>>> retaining expressiveness power. We understand the importance
    of clarity
     >>>>> to minimize the risk of security providers, service types or
    algorithms
     >>>>> being unexpectedly enabled.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> In this new iteration of the proposal, we explore a filter
    that has
     >>>>> similarities to the serialization filter (jdk.serialFilter).
    We think
     >>>>> that it could be beneficial to leverage on a specification to
    which the
     >>>>> user is familiar already.
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> General structure
     >>>>> ====================
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=pattern-1; pattern-2; ...;
    pattern-n
     >>>>>
     >>>>> The property jdk.security.providers.filter is an overrideable
    Security
     >>>>> property. Thus, a System property with the same name exists
    and, when
     >>>>> specified, overrides any value in its Security counterpart.
    When not
     >>>>> specified (value is null), filtering capabilities are completely
     >>>>> disabled: all installed security providers, service types and
     >>>>> algorithms
     >>>>> are allowed. If any of these properties are set during run
    time, the
     >>>>> filter could be initialized already and the new value may not
    take
     >>>>> effect.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> When filtering capabilities are enabled, each service is checked
     >>>>> against
     >>>>> the filter before registration. Notice that this affects both the
     >>>>> initial list of security providers as well as those dynamically
     >>>>> installed during run time. Once a service is registered,
    instances
     >>>>> of it
     >>>>> can be obtained and used without any other checks that could
    affect
     >>>>> performance.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> The registration of a service involves a combination of a
    security
     >>>>> provider, service type and algorithm. Each combination is
    evaluated
     >>>>> against the filter patterns, from left to right. When a
    pattern matches
     >>>>> —or, in other words, the rule concerns the service to be
    registered—, a
     >>>>> decision is made: the service will be allowed or denied. When a
     >>>>> decision
     >>>>> is made, remaining patterns are not checked for the service under
     >>>>> consideration. When all patterns are checked and a decision
    is not
     >>>>> made,
     >>>>> the default behavior is to deny the service registration.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Contrary to the serialization filter, white spaces between
    patterns do
     >>>>> not have any significance.
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Pattern matching
     >>>>> =====================================================
     >>>>>
     >>>>> pattern := ! security-provider.service-type.algorithm
     >>>>>
     >>>>> pattern := security-provider.service-type.algorithm
     >>>>>
     >>>>> A canonical pattern consists of 3 hierarchical levels
    separated by ".".
     >>>>>     From left to right in lexicographic order, these levels
    denote a
     >>>>> security provider, a service type and an algorithm. If a
    pattern starts
     >>>>> with "!", the decision made upon matching is to deny the service
     >>>>> registration. Otherwise, the service registration is allowed.
    White
     >>>>> spaces between "!" and the rest of the pattern do not have any
     >>>>> significance.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> For a match to be successful, the security provider name, the
    service
     >>>>> type and the algorithm have to match the pattern exactly (case
     >>>>> insensitive). If the service type of a security provider
    interprets the
     >>>>> algorithm as a transformation composed of different parts,
    the full
     >>>>> transformation has to be specified in the pattern: the filter
    takes a
     >>>>> conservative approach and does not make any assumptions of
    what an
     >>>>> algorithm name means. For example, "AES" as the algorithm of a
     >>>>> canonical
     >>>>> filter pattern will not match an "AES/ECB/PKCS5Padding"
    transformation.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> If an algorithm alias is specified in the filter pattern, a
    service
     >>>>> registering the alias will be matched.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> For convenience, it's possible to specify patterns in
    non-canonical
     >>>>> forms:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> 1) At any level, the security provider, the service type or the
     >>>>> algorithm name can contain wildcards ("*") to represent zero
    or more
     >>>>> repetitions of any character;
     >>>>>
     >>>>> 2) The .algorithm part can be omitted to imply all algorithms
    under the
     >>>>> security provider and service type;
     >>>>>
     >>>>> 3) The .service-type.algorithm part can be omitted to imply
    all service
     >>>>> types and algorithms under the security provider; and,
     >>>>>
     >>>>> 4) The non-canonical form #1 can be combined with either #2
    or #3.
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Security provider, service type and algorithm names escaping
     >>>>> =================================================================
     >>>>>
     >>>>> If the security provider, service type or algorithm name contains
     >>>>> any of
     >>>>> the characters "\", ".", ";" or "*", they have to be escaped by
     >>>>> prepending the character "\". If the character "\" is found not
     >>>>> escaping
     >>>>> a character, it's silently discarded.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> White spaces are discarded at the beginning and end of names.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> It's worth mentioning that the described escaping rules apply
    to the
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter property value as read in
     >>>>> java.lang.System::getProperty or
    java.security.Security::getProperty.
     >>>>> Additional escaping might be needed depending on how the
    property is
     >>>>> passed. For example, Security properties require "\"
    characters to be
     >>>>> escaped. Thus, to match a provider name whose name is "\.", a
    filter
     >>>>> would require the "jdk.security.providers.filter=\\\\\\."
    entry in the
     >>>>> java.security file. See more about this in
    java.util.Properties::load
     >>>>> [1].
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Examples (correct)
     >>>>> ====================
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable all security providers, service types and algorithms:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=
     >>>>>
     >>>>> or
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=*
     >>>>>
     >>>>> or
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=*.*
     >>>>>
     >>>>> or
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=*.*.*
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable everything except for the MD5 algorithm in MessageDigest
     >>>>> services
     >>>>> when implemented by the SUN security provider:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=!SUN.MessageDigest.MD5; *
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable everything except for the MD5 algorithm in MessageDigest
     >>>>> services, irrespective of the security provider:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=!*.MessageDigest.MD5; *
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable everything except for algorithms using MD5,
    irrespective of the
     >>>>> security provider and the service type:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=!*.*.*MD5*; *
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Notice that in this case there are wildcards at the beginning and
     >>>>> end of
     >>>>> the algorithm name. The reason is to match MD5 uses in
    algorithms such
     >>>>> as HmacMD5, MD5withRSA, PBEWithMD5AndDES, etc.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable everything except for the RC4 algorithm in Cipher
    services when
     >>>>> implemented by the SunJCE security provider:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=!SunJCE.Cipher.ARCFOUR; *
     >>>>>
     >>>>> or
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=!SunJCE.Cipher.RC4; *
     >>>>>
     >>>>> or
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
    jdk.security.providers.filter=!SunJCE.Cipher.1\.2\.840\.113549\.3\.4; *
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable the SUN security provider only, with all its service
    types and
     >>>>> algorithms. Other security providers must be disabled.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=SUN
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable the SUN security provider only, with all its service
    types and
     >>>>> algorithms except for MessageDigest. Other security providers
    must be
     >>>>> disabled.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=!SUN.MessageDigest; SUN
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Examples (mistakes)
     >>>>> ====================
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable everything except for the MD5 algorithm, irrespective
    of the
     >>>>> security provider and the service type:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=*; !*.*.MD5
     >>>>>
     >>>>> This is wrong because the pattern "*" is matched first and a
    decision
     >>>>> allowing MD5 will be made immediately after. The pattern
    "!*.*.MD5"
     >>>>> will
     >>>>> never be checked.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable all SUN service types except for MessageDigest.
    Disable other
     >>>>> security providers.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=!SUN.MessageDigest
     >>>>>
     >>>>> While non-SUN security providers are effectively disabled,
    this is
     >>>>> wrong
     >>>>> because SUN services other than MessageDigest will not match any
     >>>>> pattern
     >>>>> and, by default, the decision is to deny registration.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Enable the SunPKCS11 security provider only.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> jdk.security.providers.filter=SunPKCS11
     >>>>>
     >>>>> This is wrong because the SunPKCS11 provider has to be
    identified by
     >>>>> its
     >>>>> name instead of its class. A possible name would have the form of
     >>>>> SunPKCS11-NAME. In a filter, this can be matched either by
     >>>>> "SunPKCS11-NAME" or "SunPKCS11-*".
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Look forward to your thoughts.
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Thanks.-
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> --
     >>>>> [1] -
     >>>>>
    
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     >>>>>
     >>>>> (†) - Thanks to Francisco Ferrari (@fferrari) for his
    contributions to
     >>>>> this proposal.
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> On 2/24/23 14:49, Anthony Scarpino wrote:
     >>>>>> Hi Martin,
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Interesting proposal.  I think Alternative 1 is a better
    direction to
     >>>>>> explore from a code structure standpoint.  If I remember
    correctly,
     >>>>>> Preferred Provider is accessed when getting a service or
    instance
     >>>>>> of the
     >>>>>> algorithm.  That happens on a per-operation basis.  What you
     >>>>>> describe is
     >>>>>> something that would reshape contents of the ProviderList where
     >>>>>> algorithms or services would not be in the list at all.  That is
     >>>>>> were I
     >>>>>> think #2 gets too complex in trying to handle both in the same
     >>>>>> property.
     >>>>>>      #2 may end up putting all checks in a per-operation check,
     >>>>>> hindering
     >>>>>> performance every time as the list grows.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> I agree this is mostly used in the FIPS situation or where
    someone
     >>>>>> wants
     >>>>>> to disable an algorithm completely, say MD5.  In those cases
    it's best
     >>>>>> to just prevent the algorithm from ever being available.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> On the smaller details side that you list.  I think the name
     >>>>>> ".enabled"
     >>>>>> doesn't fit, particularly as the first thing in the example
     >>>>>> disables all
     >>>>>> Ciphers :).  I don't have any suggestions at this time.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> As far as the syntax.  I think it maybe a bit difficult to
    parse in
     >>>>>> code
     >>>>>> and mental to disable all Ciphers, then enable just for
    SunJCE and
     >>>>>> SUN.
     >>>>>> The SUN '*" confused me until I realized you were enabling
    Ciphers.
     >>>>>> Seems too easy to get wrong.  I know you weren't making a
    formal spec,
     >>>>>> but we have to start somewhere.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> thanks
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Tony
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> On 2/17/23 10:52 AM, Martin Balao wrote:
     >>>>>>> Hi,
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> We would like to discuss a limitation in the current
    configuration
     >>>>>>> capabilities for security providers and possible solutions
    that we
     >>>>>>> are
     >>>>>>> exploring (†).
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> As you know, current configuration capabilities in
    java.security
     >>>>>>> allow
     >>>>>>> users to install security providers, decide their priority
    in a list
     >>>>>>> (security.provider.<n> properties) and even circumvent this
    priority
     >>>>>>> for specific algorithms (jdk.security.provider.preferred
    property).
     >>>>>>> However, there is no granularity in terms of what service
    types and
     >>>>>>> algorithms are enabled once a security provider is
    installed: it's an
     >>>>>>> all or nothing scheme. It is worth noting that security
    providers can
     >>>>>>> bring with them a diverse range of service types. As an
    example, the
     >>>>>>> SUN security provider comes with the following service types:
     >>>>>>> SecureRandom, Signature, KeyPairGenerator,
     >>>>>>> AlgorithmParameterGenerator, AlgorithmParameters, KeyFactory,
     >>>>>>> MessageDigest, CertificateFactory, KeyStore, CertStore, Policy,
     >>>>>>> Configuration, CertPathBuilder and CertPathValidator [1].
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> In some cases, the user may need to enforce that all
    cryptographic
     >>>>>>> primitives come from a specific security provider. This
    could happen,
     >>>>>>> for example, when operating in a FIPS-compliant environment
    or under
     >>>>>>> strict security policies. To better illustrate, let's say
    that the
     >>>>>>> user requires that all cryptographic operations are
    performed in a
     >>>>>>> Hardware Security Module (HSM). On the OpenJDK side, this
    means that
     >>>>>>> the implementation for Cipher, Signature, Mac and other
    cryptographic
     >>>>>>> services must be the one in the SunPKCS11 security
    provider. Let's
     >>>>>>> also suppose that other non-cryptographic services such as
    those for
     >>>>>>> certificates validation and TLS are required, and their
     >>>>>>> implementation
     >>>>>>> is in the SUN and SunJSSE security providers respectively.
    Setting
     >>>>>>> SunPKCS11 at the highest priority of the list is not a strong
     >>>>>>> guarantee to ensure that all cryptographic operations come
    from it:
     >>>>>>> it's possible that an algorithm for Signature is not
    implemented in
     >>>>>>> SunPKCS11 or in its underlying token but in the SUN security
     >>>>>>> provider.
     >>>>>>> Disabling the SUN security provider wouldn't be an option
    in this
     >>>>>>> case
     >>>>>>> because we need its certificates validation service.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> This problem goes beyond OpenJDK default security
    providers. Even if
     >>>>>>> we come up with a new layout for service types, algorithms and
     >>>>>>> providers —putting backward compatibility issues aside—,
    there is
     >>>>>>> always the possibility that a 3rd party security provider
    does not
     >>>>>>> follow any services grouping convention. It might also be
    the case
     >>>>>>> that we need to disable a specific algorithm only —i.e. for
     >>>>>>> cryptographic policy reasons— and TLS or JAR signing
    properties fall
     >>>>>>> short.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> In our view, it would be beneficial to add more configuration
     >>>>>>> flexibility and control to the existing API in which any
    security
     >>>>>>> provider can be plugged in, in the form of deciding which
    service
     >>>>>>> types and algorithms are enabled for each installed provider.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> There are 2 alternatives that we are exploring to tackle this
     >>>>>>> problem.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Alternative #1
     >>>>>>> ===========================
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Introduce a new security property to decide which service
    types and
     >>>>>>> algorithms are enabled for each security provider. The
    default value
     >>>>>>> for this property would be empty, which keeps this feature
    disabled
     >>>>>>> and all services from installed security providers available.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> As for the new property's syntax and semantics, we've been
     >>>>>>> considering
     >>>>>>> an allow-list along the lines of:
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> jdk.security.provider.enabled = security-provider-1 {
     >>>>>>> service-type-1 :
     >>>>>>> alg-1, ... ; ... } , ...
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Note: we need a formal syntax specification, this is for
    illustration
     >>>>>>> only.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> As part of the syntax we are considering the use of
    wildcards (*) to
     >>>>>>> match multiple security providers, service types and
    algorithms, and
     >>>>>>> minus signs (-) to remove service types. When a service type is
     >>>>>>> removed, the action applies to all algorithms and any
    attempt to
     >>>>>>> specify them explicitly would be an error. The minus sign
    cannot be
     >>>>>>> used at the algorithm level. We are also thinking that in
    case of a
     >>>>>>> partial or total contradiction between conditions, the
    right-most
     >>>>>>> value applies on top of the others. If a security provider,
    service
     >>>>>>> type or algorithm does not exist, we can simply write a
    debug warning
     >>>>>>> and ignore it. As for the name of the algorithms, we can
    also include
     >>>>>>> Ciphers transformations.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Example:
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> jdk.security.provider.enabled = * { -Cipher }, SunJCE {
    Cipher :
     >>>>>>> AES/GCM/NoPadding, DES ; Signature }, SUN { * ; -Signature }
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> This would be interpreted as:
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>      * Irrespective of the provider (*), Cipher services
    should be
     >>>>>>> removed (-). This rule would be superfluous in this case
    because the
     >>>>>>> property itself is an allow-list and there is nothing to
    the left
     >>>>>>> that
     >>>>>>> enables Cipher service types for any provider.
     >>>>>>>      * From the SunJCE security provider, Cipher services with
     >>>>>>> AES/GCM/NoPadding and DES transformations are allowed, and
    Signature
     >>>>>>> services with any algorithm are allowed. Notice that there is a
     >>>>>>> shortcut here: the algorithm list that follows the service
    name, "':
     >>>>>>> alg-1, ..." is optional. When omitted all the service's
    algorithms
     >>>>>>> are
     >>>>>>> enabled.
     >>>>>>>      * From the SUN security provider, every service type
    is allowed
     >>>>>>> except Signature (recall that a minus sign can only apply to a
     >>>>>>> service, removing all associated algorithms).
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> It's not the goal of this proposal to invalidate property
    values that
     >>>>>>> lead to inconsistent internal states, such as "the Cipher
    service of
     >>>>>>> SunJCE depends on AlgorithmParameters from SUN". This is
    because the
     >>>>>>> combinations for a check are virtually infinite: there can
    be 3rd
     >>>>>>> party security providers with their own semantics and
     >>>>>>> dependencies. In
     >>>>>>> the same way, we cannot determine at start time any application
     >>>>>>> dependencies. It's up to the user to analyze all types of
     >>>>>>> dependencies
     >>>>>>> before setting a value.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Alternative #2
     >>>>>>> ===========================
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Introduce a boolean security property to turn the value of the
     >>>>>>> existing jdk.security.provider.preferred property into the only
     >>>>>>> combinations of algorithm, service and provider that are
    allowed:
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> jdk.security.provider.preferredOnly = true
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> The default value for the new property would be "false",
    keeping the
     >>>>>>> current "preferred" behavior in which all algorithms and
    services
     >>>>>>> from
     >>>>>>> installed security providers are available.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Contrary to Alternative #1, the user has to explicitly list the
     >>>>>>> algorithms and cannot rely on wildcards to express wide
    categories
     >>>>>>> such as "all Cipher algorithms from SunJCE" or "all
    algorithms from
     >>>>>>> SunJCE". The use of minus signs to remove service types or
    algorithms
     >>>>>>> wouldn't be available either.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> In order to mitigate the burden on users we can consider
    extending
     >>>>>>> jdk.security.provider.preferred syntax as long as we keep
     >>>>>>> backward-compatibility and stay within the boundaries of a
     >>>>>>> "preferred"
     >>>>>>> semantics. For example, we can accept a value of
     >>>>>>> "jdk.security.provider.preferred=SunJCE" to mean that any
    service and
     >>>>>>> any algorithm from SunJCE is either preferred or allowed,
     >>>>>>> depending on
     >>>>>>> the value of jdk.security.provider.preferredOnly. This case
    would
     >>>>>>> be a
     >>>>>>> service type and algorithm wildcard. We can also define an
     >>>>>>> algorithms-only wildcard, such as Cipher.*:SunJCE.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Alternative #2 has the advantage of reusing most or all of the
     >>>>>>> existing syntax. However, it's worth noticing that it
    implies an
     >>>>>>> overloaded semantic that can turn confusing or inconvenient
    in some
     >>>>>>> cases. As an example, a user that relies on the prioritized
    security
     >>>>>>> providers list for most of the algorithms and has only a few
     >>>>>>> preferred
     >>>>>>> exceptions, would need to express preferences by extension upon
     >>>>>>> turning on this feature. Alternative #1 keeps preferences and
     >>>>>>> availability as two separate concepts, in a more clear way.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> Thanks,
     >>>>>>> Martin.-
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>> --
     >>>>>>> [1] -
     >>>>>>>
    
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     >>>>>>> (†) - Thanks to @fferrari for his contributions to this
    proposal.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>
     >>>
     >>
     >


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