Vishal,

It's correct, but unfortunate behaviour. The namespaces have to be cascaded due to the spec using an XPath model for defining how canonicalisation is performed. DOM does not perfectly match to XPath, particularly where it comes to namespaces. Normally you can bypass it, but there are some arcane XPath constructs that will only work if namespaces are cascaded through the doc.

Unfortunately, those arcane constructs are tested in the interop tests :>.

I'm trying to package up and do dox for 1.1 this weekend, but the first thing I want to do after 1.1 is attempt to implement something similar to what is used in the C library to only temporarily add the namespaces that are required.

Cheers,
        Berin


Vishal Mahajan wrote:


All:

I think this might be an important issue. The namespace attributes cascading is carried out by the Java dsig code even if canonicalization transformation is not required to be performed. Is this correct behavior?

Vishal

GANDHIRAJAN,AYYAPPAN (HP-India,ex2) wrote:

Hi Vishal,

Sometime back, there was a discussion going on about this cascading in one
thread with subject "going from signing xml file with DTD to signing xml
file with Schema". Do you any clue about the conclusion? Can't I somehow
stop cascading?


Please do suggest me.


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-----Original Message----- From: Vishal Mahajan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with verification of .NET signed XML


I think (I am not sure) that this might be happening because of the namespace attributes cascading that's done by apache dsig library on the xml document. This, combined with the fact that there's no canonicalization transform inside the signed-info-reference (ds:Reference) might be resulting in the interop problem that you are facing. It would be interesting to know, what happens when you perform a canon transform on the signature input to be digested.


Vishal

GANDHIRAJAN,AYYAPPAN (HP-India,ex2) wrote:



Oop! I forgot to attach the xml message. Please here you go!


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-----Original Message-----
From: GANDHIRAJAN,AYYAPPAN (HP-India,ex2) Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:52 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Problem with verification of .NET signed XML



Hi Berin,


Thanks for your mail.

My client is written using .NET. It creates an XML envelope and sign it.

My server is written in apache xml security. It verifies the signed xml
messages, which was sent by the client. The "boolean verify =
sig1.checkSignatureValue(sig1.getKeyInfo().getPublicKey())" statement

always


return false. The digest value generated is different from the digest value
present in the xml message.


Please find the attached signed xml mesage.


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-----Original Message----- From: Berin Lautenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with verification of .NET signed XML


The Object element is simply an artifact for including information to be signed or to be used in the signature inside the Signature element. It is not directly included in any signture operation.


How is the signature breaking?

Cheers,
    Berin


GANDHIRAJAN,AYYAPPAN (HP-India,ex2) wrote:






Folks,

Though I have been working with XML security for the past four months, I
have never used "<Object>" tag inside <Signature> element. Can anyone of

you





please tell me as to what is this Object tag and how it affects the
signature verification functionlaity?

I have used apahe XML security to sign and verify the digital signature.
When both server and client are using apache libraries, the functionlity
worksfine. When I generated the signed xml using .NET, the functionlity
breaks. I see one extra <Object> inside the <Signature> element. The
interoperability seems to be a problem here. Can someone help me in
resolving this?



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