Berin, there security stuff happening in WS land as well: we're
implementing WS-Security, WS-Secure Conversation, WS-Trust and
WS-Security Policy .. in both Java and C (and thru the latter for PHP
etc.). Once those are done then we can do InfoCard and other stuff
that's coming down the pipe (like WS-Federation).

What's the right way to relate those to the new security TLP? 

Sanjiva.

On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 21:28 +1000, Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> Board peoples,
> 
> Another TLP proposal from the XML project - but with a slight difference.
> 
> We are proposing to create a general security software project that has
> the xml-security project as a core to build from.
> 
> As I mentioned in a previous email - this is not about creating another
> super-project (been through that once :>) - it's about having a project
> to foster and provide a focal point for security related software within
> the foundation.  From our XML experiences we have become quite good at
> spinning off "sub projects" - we can use that experience to gauge when
> promotion is necessary to defend against inadequate oversite.
> (Asssuming it is necessary - I'm not really seeing this as a "project
> factory".)
> 
> The proposal has been put to the vote both within the xml-security group
> and within the XML PMC. (History forwarded as part of this email.)
> 
> Something to discuss in the inaugural meeting of the new board!
> 
> Cheers,
>       Berin
> 
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to security technologies,
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Santuario
> PMC", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Santuario PMC be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to security technologies, based on software licensed
> to the Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Santuario"
> be and hereby is created, the person holding such
> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as
> the chair of the Apache Santuario PMC, and to have primary
> responsibility for management of the projects within the
> scope of responsibility of the Apache Santuario PMC; and be it
> further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Santuario PMC:
> 
> Axl Mattheus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Raul Benito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sean Mullan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Werner Dittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Berin Lautenbach
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is appointed to the office of Vice President,
> Apache Santuario, to serve in accordance with and subject
> to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Santuario PMC be and
> hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache Santuario Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Santuario PMC be and
> hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the
> Apache XML PMC, XML Security subproject; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache XML,
> XML Security sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache XML PMC
> are hereafter discharged.
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: VOTE: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:21:48 +1000
> From: Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Calling it.
> 
> 8 +1s (including me) and no dissenting votes.
> 
> I will fix the "resolution" and send to the board for the meeting next week.
> 
> Thanks all!
> 
> Cheers,
>       Berin
> 
> Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> 
> > Hi all - I'm going to call this in another 24 hours and put the
> > resoluition (amended after Shane's very kind proof reading :>) to the board.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >     Berin
> > 
> > Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Peoples,
> >>
> >>The xml-security project has voted to raise to a TLP named Apache
> >>Santuario (vote attached) and to broaden their scope to security
> >>software in general.  The vote is attached below.
> >>
> >>This is something we have been looking at doing for a while.  Now that
> >>xml-security has voted, I need the approval of the XML-PMC.  So here is
> >>the request:
> >>
> >>Please vote for/against the promotion of the xml-security project to TLP
> >>as a security software project, with scope described in the attached
> >>proposed board resolution.
> >>
> >>+1 from me!
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>    Berin
> >>
> >>-------- Original Message --------
> >>Subject: Re: VOTE: TLP Resolution
> >>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:13:42 +1000
> >>From: Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: security-dev@xml.apache.org
> >>To: security-dev@xml.apache.org
> >>References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>OK Calling it.
> >>
> >>Following people voted:
> >>
> >>Dims, Berin, Werner, Raul, Sean, Ceki, Steve
> >>
> >>7 x +1 for TLP.  (2 non-binding)
> >>7 x +1 for BL as chair  (2 non-binding)
> >>6 x +1 for Santuario (2 non-binding) and 1 for Raksha.
> >>
> >>So I will take to the XML PMC and then to then board with the TLP
> >>project name of  Santuario and the PMC as:
> >>
> >>Dims
> >>Werner
> >>Raul
> >>Sean
> >>Berin
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>    Berin
> >>
> >>Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>All,
> >>>
> >>>I'm going to make this happen by hook or by crook.
> >>>
> >>>I've floated the idea on board@ and got no objections, so lets make it
> >>>formal.
> >>>
> >>>All committers need to cast a vote on the following.
> >>>
> >>>1) Support for going to TLP as a broad Security project (+1 or -1)
> >>>2) The name of the project.  See list of proposed names below.
> >>>3) The chair.  At the moment the only volunteer is myself, so you can
> >>>vote +1/-1 to that or you can propose other names :>.
> >>>
> >>>I've pasted the board proposal at the end of this email.
> >>>
> >>>I've included a list of current committers on JuiCE (is this OK?) and
> >>>XML-Security in the PMC list.  To make sure the list is valid, I will be
> >>>using this vote to confirm people are interested in being in the PMC.
> >>>
> >>>IF YOU DO NOT VOTE I WILL ASSUME THAT YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED ON BEING ON
> >>>THE PMC!  (Sorry for shouting :>.)
> >>>
> >>>Proposed Names (feel free to add if you have strong feelings) :
> >>>
> >>>- Raksha
> >>>- Security Software
> >>>- Santuario
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>   Berin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>>interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>>open-source software related to security technologies,
> >>>for distribution at no charge to the public.
> >>>
> >>>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX>
> >>>PMC", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>>Foundation; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>RESOLVED, that the Apache <XXX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and hereby is
> >>>responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >>>related to creation and maintenance of open-source software
> >>>related to XML security technologies based on software
> >>>licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache <XX INSERT
> >>>NAME XX>" be and hereby is created, the person holding such
> >>>office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as
> >>>the chair of the Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC, and to have primary
> >>>responsibility for management of the projects within the
> >>>scope of responsibility of the Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC; and be it
> >>>further
> >>>
> >>>RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC:
> >>>
> >>>Erwin van der Koogh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Axl Mattheus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Vishal Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Raul Benito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Milan Tomic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sean Mullan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Karel Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Noah Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Walter Hoehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Werner Dittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that <XX INSERT CHAIR XX>
> >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appointed to the office of Vice President,
> >>>Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX>, to serve in accordance with and subject
> >>>to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> >>>the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> >>>disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> >>>further
> >>>
> >>>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and
> >>>hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>>encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>>Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> Project; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and
> >>>hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the
> >>>Apache XML PMC XML Security subproject; and be it further
> >>>
> >>>RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the XML XML
> >>>Security sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache XML PMC
> >>>are hereafter discharged.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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