On Fri, Feb 7, 2025, 03:12 Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> > The CRA mandates manufacturers to supply patches upstream, I wonder if
> this could be extended to VEX-es
>
> Actually, this is an interesting "take". I wonder if we can have some ways
> of publishing our VEX-es by a third party, not by us and allowing users to
> contribute there same as - making it effectively "crowd-sourced" and not
> "officially published by the ASF".
>
> I think if we can work it out and have such independent, trusted 3rd-party
> (parties?) where you could submit VEX information but not be "solely
> responsible" for the content in the VEX's, all my legal concerns are gone.
>

Unless I am misunderstanding, that doesn't sound safe to me. As we don't
allow anyone to publish CVEs for our wares but us (we are a CNA), shouldn't
this apply to other metadata especially when related to security?

Gary

>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:45 AM Piotr P. Karwasz <pi...@mailing.copernik.eu
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Arnout,
> >
> > On 5.02.2025 12:19, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:41 AM Piotr P. Karwasz<
> > pi...@mailing.copernik.eu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> if something happens to a transitive dependency, but all our direct
> > >> dependencies publish a "not affected" VEX statement, we can skip the
> > >> upgrade
> > > Possibly (or perhaps doing the update but not rushing a release)
> >
> > Sure, in ecosystems where the latest release is not chosen
> > automatically, we should always try to use the latest versions.
> >
> > >> and publish a "not_affected" VEX statement ourselves.
> > > In this case, shouldn't downstream projects consume that upstream VEX
> > > themselves? I'm not sure we should repeat that information.
> > Publishing a "not_affected" VEX statement would show that we did analyze
> > the CVE and the VEX file is maintained.
> > >> If a
> > >> direct dependency publishes an "exploitable" VEX statement and a nice
> > >> description of the conditions under which the bug can be triggered, we
> > >> can still check if we meet those conditions in our own code. We won't
> > >> have to analyze the code of our dependencies! Maybe we are not
> affected
> > >> and we can just publish a VEX statement that says so.
> > >>
> > > This would be interesting. It would also be nice to be able to accept
> > such
> > > statements/descriptions as contributions.
> >
> > The CRA mandates manufacturers to supply patches upstream, I wonder if
> > this could be extended to VEX-es.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> security-discuss-unsubscr...@community.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > security-discuss-h...@community.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Reply via email to