On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote:

> Interesting.  We only saw one case where people had problems due to a client
> with the new configuration trying to talk to a server that only supported CBC
> mode ciphers.  We saw many more problems due to servers picking up the new
> configuration and becoming inaccessible to people with clients supporting only
> CBC-mode ciphers.  Unfortunately, it's not always realistic to tell those
> people to upgrade their clients; there are a _lot_ of clients which don't
> support other ciphers in any version, and a lot of situations in which
> switching to a different client isn't feasible.

        could you give me an example? All clients I checked had AES-CTR or 
arcfour support. I'm sure there are some but I don't believe they would be 
widely used. The problem for us was that S9 machines were shipped with 
explicit Ciphers setting which didn't contain AES-CTR nor arcfour, not that 
the server itself wouldn't support them as such.

        from what we saw it should not be a big problem, we will see what 
reality will bring. To keep CBC modes on the server side makes such server 
potentially vulnerable without a way to control it - the client is the one 
that picks the cipher. That's why we think that this step is important from 
the security point of view.

-- 
Jan Pechanec

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