I need to be on a watch of what people do. So can i atleast restrict them to use only one id with which they login the first time? because i have to calculate their usage and all and fix them specific download quotas. so i shud make sure that the user doesn't use another openid to login and continue using the website. pls advise..

Um . . . no, OpenID (and this applies to any authentication system) is not the answer. There is NO authentication system (and don't trust anyone in the world who tells you otherwise) that can guarantee you, over the anonymity of the 'net, a given user is not someone who has dealt with you before. Simply impossible. Individuals (important distinction from users, here - an individual is any person at the other end of a keyboard, users are how you know them at your site) cannot be FORCED to use the same credentials consistently. You *might*, conceivably, receive an offer from some mercenary team that would meet (on your behalf) potential "clients" (wannabe "users"), babysit them 24/7, and give you a call every time the individual was about to log in so you could confirm their username - but this is an exception, not the rule, and in any case unfeasible for your non-profitable music site ;)

Unless you're the RIAA . . . but even they haven't gone that far. Yet ;)

You can limit your popularity with certain OpenID's, in an attempt to combat such tactics as "subdomain1.user.com, subdomain2.user.com, subdomain3.user.com", but what do you do if you see "profile.yahoo.com/D1105508B89AFBBF162C4B88966"? (Note: probably not a valid URI for Yahoo, just a quick example.) Does this mean that users are availing themselves of an ability to present a different URI to an OP on each authentication, to avoid tracking? Perhaps it simply means that the user has created more than one Yahoo account? (Which, by the way, are free.) How do you propose to keep the user from trying "another OpenID" when that OpenID is the very method by which you would identify users?

You can track their IP address (this could be part of an authentication system, complementing OpenID), banning numbers and then entire blocks with excessive use (the exact definition of "excessive" being up to you), but some of them will just go through free proxies. This is self-limiting; if more than one person uses a proxy, you just catch it faster. If you do go that route, automate it, because new proxies are always becoming available (and old ones, disappearing), and you don't want to waste your time on that endless task.

I don't recommend it, though; you can go a long way with such countermeasures, and STILL have problems. You can hope to keep the costs down to manageable levels, at best. But users who want to "cheat" will still do so; *they* can outthink *you* - not all of them, and not all of the time, but a few of them will always be slipping through. The strategy I recommend is *rewarding* users for staying with a single OpenID: make the benefits outweigh whatever short-term gain they might receive, so users won't *want* to cheat that way.

This *would* encourage people to use the same OpenID for logging in, no matter where they are. Find out which OP's (if any) offer a unique password for logging in to predefined sites (OSP: one-site-password), and recommend them to users, so the OP doesn't became a gateway to all that user's *other* sites if they log into your site from a public terminal.

-Shade
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